Never thought of it that way.You have a better chance of reasoning with a Maga than you do with a moderate. Magas can't help being stupid. Moderates have made the deliberate choice to be stupid.
Didn’t expect to see moogy crashing out over a Michigan senate primary, but here we are
Taking power through the voting booth != crashing out, and I’m not even a DSA fan.Not as bad as watching a faction of the left crash out after MAGAt's reign, but here we are ...
Running to the DSA extremism because of MAGAts is crashing out.Taking power through the voting booth != crashing out, and I’m not even a DSA fan.
Who's running to them? It sounds like Abdul/Mamdani/etc are saying things that voters want to hear. Democratic leadership tried to beat them in the primaries and failed. What would you have them do? Refuse to support Abdul because you don't like a few of the planks on the DSA website (which he's never even said he supports)?Running to the DSA extremism because of MAGAts is crashing out.
Wut? The people who voted for him are running to him. The people who support him, and who support the DSA, are running to them.Who's running to them? It sounds like Abdul/Mamdani/etc are saying things that voters want to hear. Democratic leadership tried to beat them in the primaries and failed. What would you have them do? Refuse to support Abdul because you don't like a few of the planks on the DSA website (which he's never even said he supports)?
I mean, the dem establishment spent 60 MILLION DOLLARS fighting Abdul and he still overcame it because voters like what he has to say.
People support and vote for candidates that say things they want to hear and push for things they support. If you have a problem with people supporting DSA candidates (which Abdul isn't), then take it up with the milquetoast corporatist whores that you seem to want to continue running that have minimal support or excitement from the masses.Wut? The people who voted for him are running to him. The people who support him, and who support the DSA, are running to them.
Yes, I would have them not support an extremist. Is this thing on? Is there a language barrier? I only know English.
No, I'll think I'll hold the people who vote accountable for their votes. I'm crazy like that. I don't come from the "it's not my fault ... they made me do it" school of voting. That's how the MAGAts rationalized their stupidity and evil. Hopefully we don't repeat the same mistake, but various far left extremist factions (MAGAtsLeft until I think of something better ... maybe LeftoverMAGAts?) appear intent on it.People support and vote for candidates that say things they want to hear and push for things they support. If you have a problem with people supporting DSA candidates (which Abdul isn't), then take it up with the milquetoast corporatist whores that you seem to want to continue running that have minimal support or excitement from the masses.
People are angry at the dems for capitulating and rolling over for MAGA and the constant calls to try and work with MAGA while Republicans constantly dick the dems over when they try. People, especially YOUNG people, want people who will fight for them, not roll over and capitulate because they think it's the 90s when dems and pubs worked together.
Lol idk how you got the assumption that I'm somehow trying to "excuse" people for voting for DSA candidates. You're completely missing my point for some reason. I'm saying the centrist Dems you're yearning for are failing in the moment because there are millions of people that are disgruntled with their fecklessness. You can keep crying about "MAGAtsLeft" but your inability to recognize what's going on is shocking considering you seem like a very intelligent person.No, I'll think I'll hold the people who vote accountable for their votes. I'm crazy like that. I don't come from the "it's not my fault ... they made me do it" school of voting. That's how the MAGAts rationalized their stupidity and evil. Hopefully we don't repeat the same mistake, but various far left extremist factions (MAGAtsLeft until I think of something better ... maybe LeftoverMAGAts?) appear intent on it.
Centrist democrats will be new MAGA members in no time. Thanks democrats for screwing the pooch.Lol idk how you got the assumption that I'm somehow trying to "excuse" people for voting for DSA candidates. You're completely missing my point for some reason. I'm saying the centrist Dems you're yearning for are failing in the moment because there are millions of people that are disgruntled with their fecklessness. You can keep crying about "MAGAtsLeft" but your inability to recognize what's going on is shocking considering you seem like a very intelligent person.
People are mad at the traditional corporatist Dem that seems more inclined to bend over for corporate interests instead of improving the middle and lower class. No one's asking to be "excused" for voting for these candidates. They're literally gravitating towards the people that are saying the things they want their elected officials to do.
The "vote blue no matter who" group is suddenly awfully ******* quiet now that their candidates are getting routed by "blue" candidates that are to their left.
Lol idk how you got the assumption that I'm somehow trying to "excuse" people for voting for DSA candidates. You're completely missing my point for some reason.
I'm saying the centrist Dems you're yearning for are failing in the moment because there are millions of people that are disgruntled with their fecklessness. You can keep crying about "MAGAtsLeft" but your inability to recognize what's going on is shocking considering you seem like a very intelligent person.
People are mad at the traditional corporatist Dem that seems more inclined to bend over for corporate interests instead of improving the middle and lower class. No one's asking to be "excused" for voting for these candidates. They're literally gravitating towards the people that are saying the things they want their elected officials to do.
The "vote blue no matter who" group is suddenly awfully ******* quiet now that their candidates are getting routed by "blue" candidates that are to their left.
A democrat that is as close to the center as possible is still SIGNIFICANTLY closer to the DSA than they ever would be to maga. Maga is that far extreme to the rightCentrist democrats will be new MAGA members in no time. Thanks democrats for screwing the pooch.
Evidently Abdul has written a book on a plan to implement Medicare for all...anybody read it?
Does it seem workable?
I'm all ears
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