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Willow Grove Dawg

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There have to be several ACC schools that want to explore their options at/or before the expiration of their ESPN contract/Grant of Rights. Some combination of Miami, FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA, & NC State. All of these schools are probably postering for invitations to the SEC/Big 10. They all need to avoid that 5 year Independent requirement in the current bill to change conferences plus they need to avoid the 19 school limit since the Big 10 is already at 18 & the SEC 16.
 
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patdog

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They need to scrap that rule altogether. I don’t like all the conference realignment but that is punitive and excessive.
 
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patdog

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There have to be several ACC schools that want to explore their options at/or before the expiration of their ESPN contract/Grant of Rights. Some combination of Miami, FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA, & NC State. All of these schools are probably postering for invitations to the SEC/Big 10. They all need to avoid that 5 year Independent requirement in the current bill to change conferences plus they need to avoid the 19 school limit since the Big 10 is already at 18 & the SEC 16.
Some of those schools are going to find the interest by the big 10 & sec isn’t what they wish it was.
 

OG Goat Holder

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They need to scrap that rule altogether. I don’t like all the conference realignment but that is punitive and excessive.
Yeah toothpaste left the tube on that in 2011 or whenever.

And why is it 19 anyway? Why not 20? Assuming there is some reason.

Either way, if I'm the B1G obviously your first choice is North Carolina but if they say no I'm going Miami or Georgia Tech, just for the foot in those markets.
 
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patdog

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Yeah toothpaste left the tube on that in 2011 or whenever.

And why is it 19 anyway? Why not 20? Assuming there is some reason.

Either way, if I'm the B1G obviously your first choice is North Carolina but if they say no I'm going Miami or Georgia Tech, just for the foot in those markets.
I don’t see GA Tech making the cut. Miami & UNC are the big prizes. After that there are either issues (how. Many conferences want to add a school that has a history of suing their conference over a deal they willingly signed) or just not a big enough program. I don’t think markets matter as much as they did 10 years ago. National exposure is what matters.
 

OG Goat Holder

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I don’t see GA Tech making the cut. Miami & UNC are the big prizes. After that there are either issues (how. Many conferences want to add a school that has a history of suing their conference over a deal they willingly signed) or just not a big enough program. I don’t think markets matter as much as they did 10 years ago. National exposure is what matters.
I mean more recruiting markets, and also having your teams be able to play in big cities right in the middle of the south. But I have no idea anymore about what translates to streaming TV eyes.

The only things that truly make sense to me are Clemson and Florida State to the SEC. They add quality, and this old school stuff about state borders is so damn dumb I don't want to even consider it anymore. Miami makes sense in the B1G to me. North Carolina can go either way in my mind. After that, I see GTech as attractive as anyone else, even UVA or VTech.
 

Dawgzilla2

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It doesn't look like this will be voted on before recess, and I think that's a good thing. This bill needs work. I don't want to see it passed in its current form.

I am generally on board with the NIL provisions, and the guarantees to the athletes.

But there are a lot of issues in there Congress shouldn't be involved with: Conference sizes, scheduling, coaches leaving their schools midseason...there's even a provision mandating the CFP championship has to be played by January 8, if practicable, and a guarantee the Army Navy game will be played the second weekend in December, and prohibiting any other game broadcasts during the Army Navy Game. Some things should just be left to the schools to decide.

For the NIL stuff, they need to work harder to avoid future litigation over everything. They have left a private entity (CSC, for now) in charge of enforcement, which might be unconstitutional. This is an open question, but giving a private institution enforcement rights over federal legislation has been ruled unconsitituional in the Fifth Circuit (I think). The bill also gives a bunch of irrevocable rights to the athletes, while the Schools can lose their protections with the slightest infraction.

And the revenue sharing cap needs to grow using an objective formula, and probably not just tied to cost of living. Assuming media rights payments to the schools continue to increase, the cap should increase right along with it. I'm not sure if the new jersey patch deals signed by ND and OSU should contribute to the overall cap value, but someone should decide that and put something in the statute to cover it.

Don't rush this thing...just put in the work and make something solid.
 
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Called3rdstrikedawg

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It doesn't look like this will be voted on before recess, and I think that's a good thing. This bill needs work. I don't want to see it passed in its current form.

I am generally on board with the NIL provisions, and the guarantees to the athletes.

But there are a lot of issues in there Congress shouldn't be involved with: Conference sizes, scheduling, coaches leaving their schools midseason...there's even a provision mandating the CFP championship has to be played by January 8, if practicable, and a guarantee the Army Navy game will be played the second weekend in December, and prohibiting any other game broadcasts during the Army Navy Game. Some things should just be left to the schools to decide.

For the NIL stuff, they need to work harder to avoid future litigation over everything. They have left a private entity (CSC, for now) in charge of enforcement, which might be unconstitutional. This is an open question, but giving a private institution enforcement rights over federal legislation has been ruled unconsitituional in the Fifth Circuit (I think). The bill also gives a bunch of irrevocable rights to the athletes, while the Schools can lose their protections with the slightest infraction.

And the revenue sharing cap needs to grow using an objective formula, and probably not just tied to cost of living. Assuming media rights payments to the schools continue to increase, the cap should increase right along with it. I'm not sure if the new jersey patch deals signed by ND and OSU should contribute to the overall cap value, but someone should decide that and put something in the statute to cover it.

Don't rush this thing...just put in the work and make something solid.
It will likely go away if not voted in before the break. Those people have to get to politicking to keep their jobs in November. College Football will be at the bottom of their minds going into and after the mid-terms!
 

patdog

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It will likely go away if not voted in before the break. Those people have to get to politicking to keep their jobs in November. College Football will be at the bottom of their minds going into and after the mid-terms!
That may be a good thing. As 17ed up as things are now, they very well may be even more 17ed with Congress getting involved.
 

patdog

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I mean more recruiting markets, and also having your teams be able to play in big cities right in the middle of the south. But I have no idea anymore about what translates to streaming TV eyes.

The only things that truly make sense to me are Clemson and Florida State to the SEC. They add quality, and this old school stuff about state borders is so damn dumb I don't want to even consider it anymore. Miami makes sense in the B1G to me. North Carolina can go either way in my mind. After that, I see GTech as attractive as anyone else, even UVA or VTech.
I think if sec wanted Clemson or FSU, they’d already be in the SEC for years.
 

OG Goat Holder

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I think if sec wanted Clemson or FSU, they’d already be in the SEC for years.
Oh I know. But like I've said many times, I think Sankey is a bad commissioner.

Me personally, I'd round this thing out with Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina and Virginia Tech. Stable, keep some regionality, keep some worthwhile rivalries. Nobody cares about OU/Okie State, UK/Louisville, or Virginia/VT. UNC can still play Duke in basketball
 
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And why is it 19 anyway? Why not 20? Assuming there is some reason.
That’s the anti-super conference clause. Theoretically now at least two conferences would have to break off together, and take the Purdues, States, Marylands, etc with them.

Haven’t sent the exact language to see how it blocks Texas, Ohio State, etc from leaving conferences altogether.
 
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