Trump, Hegseth clashed at Camp David over Iran missile depletion concerns

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President Donald Trump’s frustration over the Iran war boiled over at Camp David last week, where he demanded answers from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on why he had apparently been misled on extreme munitions shortages that now threaten to limit military options with Iran, two people familiar with the exchange told The Washington Post.


The encounter took place on the sidelines of his Cabinet meeting at Camp David on Friday where Trump vented at Hegseth that he thought the munitions issue “had been fixed,” according to both people familiar with the conversation, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity due to fear of retaliation.



The shortages, particularly in long-range guided missiles and air-defense interceptors, have been part of the reason Trump has pulled back from launching additional massive strikes against Iran in recent days, one of the sources said.
Trump said Monday that he had ordered and subsequently called off “the biggest attack since World War II,” pending claims of new negotiations over the Strait of Hormuz.
The president asserted overnight that the United States has “massive amounts” of munitions, saying in a post on Truth Social that “large amounts are being manufactured and shipped to the U.S. as needed.” The “‘leakers’ of these treasonous statements are being hunted down,” he added.
While the United States has announced new production agreements for some of the most critical munitions, such as Patriot air defense missiles, the munitions themselves can take as long as two years to produce, and there’s no immediate relief in sight for the shortages.

In the first month of fighting alone, the U.S. fired off more than 850 Tomahawk cruise missiles and more than 1,000 Patriot and Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) systems, The Post previously reported.
The U.S. also used more than 1,300 of the Army’s tactical ballistic missiles in the initial weeks of fighting, one U.S. official told The Post. The ATACMs stockpile — a short-range missile also in demand by Ukraine — is drained to the extent that there’s basically none left, said one of the people familiar, an assertion also reported earlier this week by Reuters.


The scarcity of defensive munitions has had an impact beyond the Middle East. Ukraine is running out of air defenses, and there are few options with which to replenish from Western stockpiles, leaving them exposed to Russia’s long-range attacks.

The lack of interceptor missiles is also altering how the U.S. decides whether to employ munitions against an incoming threat, based on where it’s assessed to be heading and whether or not it’s “a factor,” the U.S. official told The Post, a change in tactics that was first reported by NBC News.
Back at Camp David, as he was confronted by Trump over the bare weapons stockpile, Hegseth defended himself and blamed his deputy, Stephen Feinberg, for the shortages and for not ensuring Trump was fully apprised of the issue, both people familiar said.
The exchange underscored Trump’s increasing frustration with his defense secretary, who was one of the biggest early advocates for taking military action against Iran, convincing Trump it would be a quick and relatively easy win, according to multiple officials.

“This is 100% fake news. Literally never happened. And President Trump has the utmost confidence in Secretary Hegseth,” said White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt in response to questions from The Post.


More than five months after the start of the conflict, and with 18 U.S. service members killed and hundreds injured, Iran and the U.S. remain at a stalemate, with increasing concern from Arab neighbors about the long-term economic effects of the war and the impact of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
“Secretary Hegseth did not mislead anyone about our munitions posture, and he did not blame Deputy Secretary Feinberg. These claims about depleted stockpiles, internal disagreements, the Secretary’s position on Iran … are equally fictional,” Pentagon chief spokesman Sean Parnell said.

In a July Senate hearing, Hegseth sparred with Democrats over whether he had provided Trump with honest assessments of the Iran war, including the risks an extended campaign would pose for U.S. military inventories.




During the hearing, Hegseth declined to discuss his advice to the president and repeatedly blamed any shortages on the Biden administration’s handling of the military, not on the operations that have occurred under Trump’s watch.
Hegseth, Feinberg and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine have asked lawmakers to provide them $67 billion in additional military funding to help cover the costs of the Iran war, with Hegseth telling lawmakers in testimony last month the request filled an “urgent, necessary” need to refill the military’s stockpiles.


Senate Republicans have yet to agree on a strategy to take up the package.
The administration’s overall defense budget request for the coming fiscal year is a record $1.5 trillion and includes tens of billions of dollars to build missiles. But the proposal has stalled as Democrats object to the massive increase, leaving the Pentagon without a clear path to replenishing critical weaponry.

Ever since Signalgate, where Hegseth sent classified information to a chat group that included a reporter just months after being confirmed to the role, rumors have swirled about how long the defense secretary would remain in Trump’s good graces. The president has consistently praised Hegseth, saying he looks straight out of “central casting” and that “he loves war.”
Since taking office, Trump has launched military operations in seven countries: Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria and Venezuela.
The successful operation to capture former Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro appeared to further secure Hegseth’s position. But the stalemate over the Strait of Hormuz and the massive cost and length of the Iran war has eroded Trump’s confidence in him, one of the people familiar with the Camp David conversation said.



“Secretary Hegseth isn’t going anywhere, and he’s going to continue to work side by side with Deputy Secretary Feinberg to execute President Trump’s agenda,” Parnell said in response to questions about that exchange and the munitions depletion.
Stockpile pressures are not a new challenge. Before the war even started, Caine warned Trump that the U.S. did not have the stockpiles necessary to sustain a prolonged conflict.

But the pace and sheer volume of munitions expended by both sides has rapidly accelerated the depletion of key U.S. offensive and defensive munitions.
From Feb. 28 to April 7, which marked the first day of the ceasefire, the U.S. struck more than 13,000 targets in Iran. It has also defended against more than 8,500 incoming Iranian munitions or drones.
The U.S. launched Operation Epic Fury already facing shortfalls in critical munitions.
In the summer of 2025, it expended more than a quarter of its total inventory of THAAD interceptors during Israel’s 12-Day war and Operation Midnight Hammer, where U.S. forces struck Iran’s nuclear sites. The current conflict “has made those inadequacies even worse,” said Brad Bowman, an Army veteran and senior director at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.


While Hegseth and the Pentagon have announced numerous new industry framework agreements to rebuild the arsenal, defense firms “aren’t going to start bending metal until you have a contract and congressional appropriations,” Bowman said.
As a result, it could be years before the inventories are rebuilt. “We’re often talking years between spending what we need to spend, getting the contracts signed, and delivery,” he said. “You don’t just flip the switch and suddenly the munition appears in the hands of the warfighter.”

 
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President Donald Trump’s frustration over the Iran war boiled over at Camp David last week, where he demanded answers from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on why he had apparently been misled on extreme munitions shortages that now threaten to limit military options with Iran, two people familiar with the exchange told The Washington Post.


The encounter took place on the sidelines of his Cabinet meeting at Camp David on Friday where Trump vented at Hegseth that he thought the munitions issue “had been fixed,” according to both people familiar with the conversation, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity due to fear of retaliation.



The shortages, particularly in long-range guided missiles and air-defense interceptors, have been part of the reason Trump has pulled back from launching additional massive strikes against Iran in recent days, one of the sources said.
Trump said Monday that he had ordered and subsequently called off “the biggest attack since World War II,” pending claims of new negotiations over the Strait of Hormuz.
The president asserted overnight that the United States has “massive amounts” of munitions, saying in a post on Truth Social that “large amounts are being manufactured and shipped to the U.S. as needed.” The “‘leakers’ of these treasonous statements are being hunted down,” he added.
While the United States has announced new production agreements for some of the most critical munitions, such as Patriot air defense missiles, the munitions themselves can take as long as two years to produce, and there’s no immediate relief in sight for the shortages.

In the first month of fighting alone, the U.S. fired off more than 850 Tomahawk cruise missiles and more than 1,000 Patriot and Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) systems, The Post previously reported.
The U.S. also used more than 1,300 of the Army’s tactical ballistic missiles in the initial weeks of fighting, one U.S. official told The Post. The ATACMs stockpile — a short-range missile also in demand by Ukraine — is drained to the extent that there’s basically none left, said one of the people familiar, an assertion also reported earlier this week by Reuters.


The scarcity of defensive munitions has had an impact beyond the Middle East. Ukraine is running out of air defenses, and there are few options with which to replenish from Western stockpiles, leaving them exposed to Russia’s long-range attacks.

The lack of interceptor missiles is also altering how the U.S. decides whether to employ munitions against an incoming threat, based on where it’s assessed to be heading and whether or not it’s “a factor,” the U.S. official told The Post, a change in tactics that was first reported by NBC News.
Back at Camp David, as he was confronted by Trump over the bare weapons stockpile, Hegseth defended himself and blamed his deputy, Stephen Feinberg, for the shortages and for not ensuring Trump was fully apprised of the issue, both people familiar said.
The exchange underscored Trump’s increasing frustration with his defense secretary, who was one of the biggest early advocates for taking military action against Iran, convincing Trump it would be a quick and relatively easy win, according to multiple officials.

“This is 100% fake news. Literally never happened. And President Trump has the utmost confidence in Secretary Hegseth,” said White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt in response to questions from The Post.


More than five months after the start of the conflict, and with 18 U.S. service members killed and hundreds injured, Iran and the U.S. remain at a stalemate, with increasing concern from Arab neighbors about the long-term economic effects of the war and the impact of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
“Secretary Hegseth did not mislead anyone about our munitions posture, and he did not blame Deputy Secretary Feinberg. These claims about depleted stockpiles, internal disagreements, the Secretary’s position on Iran … are equally fictional,” Pentagon chief spokesman Sean Parnell said.

In a July Senate hearing, Hegseth sparred with Democrats over whether he had provided Trump with honest assessments of the Iran war, including the risks an extended campaign would pose for U.S. military inventories.




During the hearing, Hegseth declined to discuss his advice to the president and repeatedly blamed any shortages on the Biden administration’s handling of the military, not on the operations that have occurred under Trump’s watch.
Hegseth, Feinberg and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine have asked lawmakers to provide them $67 billion in additional military funding to help cover the costs of the Iran war, with Hegseth telling lawmakers in testimony last month the request filled an “urgent, necessary” need to refill the military’s stockpiles.


Senate Republicans have yet to agree on a strategy to take up the package.
The administration’s overall defense budget request for the coming fiscal year is a record $1.5 trillion and includes tens of billions of dollars to build missiles. But the proposal has stalled as Democrats object to the massive increase, leaving the Pentagon without a clear path to replenishing critical weaponry.

Ever since Signalgate, where Hegseth sent classified information to a chat group that included a reporter just months after being confirmed to the role, rumors have swirled about how long the defense secretary would remain in Trump’s good graces. The president has consistently praised Hegseth, saying he looks straight out of “central casting” and that “he loves war.”
Since taking office, Trump has launched military operations in seven countries: Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria and Venezuela.
The successful operation to capture former Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro appeared to further secure Hegseth’s position. But the stalemate over the Strait of Hormuz and the massive cost and length of the Iran war has eroded Trump’s confidence in him, one of the people familiar with the Camp David conversation said.



“Secretary Hegseth isn’t going anywhere, and he’s going to continue to work side by side with Deputy Secretary Feinberg to execute President Trump’s agenda,” Parnell said in response to questions about that exchange and the munitions depletion.
Stockpile pressures are not a new challenge. Before the war even started, Caine warned Trump that the U.S. did not have the stockpiles necessary to sustain a prolonged conflict.

But the pace and sheer volume of munitions expended by both sides has rapidly accelerated the depletion of key U.S. offensive and defensive munitions.
From Feb. 28 to April 7, which marked the first day of the ceasefire, the U.S. struck more than 13,000 targets in Iran. It has also defended against more than 8,500 incoming Iranian munitions or drones.
The U.S. launched Operation Epic Fury already facing shortfalls in critical munitions.
In the summer of 2025, it expended more than a quarter of its total inventory of THAAD interceptors during Israel’s 12-Day war and Operation Midnight Hammer, where U.S. forces struck Iran’s nuclear sites. The current conflict “has made those inadequacies even worse,” said Brad Bowman, an Army veteran and senior director at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.


While Hegseth and the Pentagon have announced numerous new industry framework agreements to rebuild the arsenal, defense firms “aren’t going to start bending metal until you have a contract and congressional appropriations,” Bowman said.
As a result, it could be years before the inventories are rebuilt. “We’re often talking years between spending what we need to spend, getting the contracts signed, and delivery,” he said. “You don’t just flip the switch and suddenly the munition appears in the hands of the warfighter.”

Didn't read the entire article, but what people need to understand is that you can't just put in an order for Patriot missile today and expect quick delivery. The funded delivery period - the time from awarding a contract and getting delivery ranges from 24-36 months. And once you're on 3 shifts - assuming you can find the people to man those shifts - there is no more capacity...

If there is a shortage of munitions, and I'd be surprised if there isn't, (remember we gave Ukraine $billions in munitions recently), there is no quick fix. This is not an issue where you can just throw money at it and expect a quick result
 

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Didn't read the entire article, but what people need to understand is that you can't just put in an order for Patriot missile today and expect quick delivery. The funded delivery period - the time from awarding a contract and getting delivery ranges from 24-36 months. And once you're on 3 shifts - assuming you can find the people to man those shifts - there is no more capacity...

If there is a shortage of munitions, and I'd be surprised if there isn't, (remember we gave Ukraine $billions in munitions recently), there is no quick fix. This is not an issue where you can just throw money at it and expect a quick result
Don't start wars of choice, then.
 

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The saddest part of the article is seeing Trump blames Hegseth, and then Hegseth blames an aide. There is no leadership in this administration.
Trump fudged up, but, he can't accept that, so he blames Hegseth. Hegseth is a moron who has no business being SecDef, so he can't accept blame for his poor leadership and lack of qualifications, so he blames an underling. The official line will be that everything is Obama and Biden's fault.
 
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Didn't read the entire article, but what people need to understand is that you can't just put in an order for Patriot missile today and expect quick delivery. The funded delivery period - the time from awarding a contract and getting delivery ranges from 24-36 months. And once you're on 3 shifts - assuming you can find the people to man those shifts - there is no more capacity...

If there is a shortage of munitions, and I'd be surprised if there isn't, (remember we gave Ukraine $billions in munitions recently), there is no quick fix. This is not an issue where you can just throw money at it and expect a quick result
i don't think anyone - other than the president, apparently - is confused or doesn't understand this
 

McLovin32

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i don't think anyone - other than the president, apparently - is confused or doesn't understand this
It's kinda funny because I remember back during the Obama years, Trump claimed that since we weren't "winning" against ISIS, that meant that the Generals had no clue what they're doing.

And here we are with Iran, running out of munitions, because he doesn't understand fucan anything.
 

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The saddest part of the article is seeing Trump blames Hegseth, and then Hegseth blames an aid. There is no leadership in this administration.
Trump fudged up, but, he can't accept that, so he blames Hegseth. Hegseth is a moron who has no business being SecDef, so he can't accept blame for his poor leadership and lack of qualifications, so he blames an underling. The official line will be that everything is Obama and Biden's fault.
The most shocking thing is he was at Camp “Dump” David. I can only assume Trump forced Hegseth to slum there rather than Mar a Lardo as punishment.
 
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President Donald Trump’s frustration over the Iran war boiled over at Camp David last week, where he demanded answers from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on why he had apparently been misled on extreme munitions shortages that now threaten to limit military options with Iran, two people familiar with the exchange told The Washington Post.


The encounter took place on the sidelines of his Cabinet meeting at Camp David on Friday where Trump vented at Hegseth that he thought the munitions issue “had been fixed,” according to both people familiar with the conversation, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity due to fear of retaliation.



The shortages, particularly in long-range guided missiles and air-defense interceptors, have been part of the reason Trump has pulled back from launching additional massive strikes against Iran in recent days, one of the sources said.
Trump said Monday that he had ordered and subsequently called off “the biggest attack since World War II,” pending claims of new negotiations over the Strait of Hormuz.
The president asserted overnight that the United States has “massive amounts” of munitions, saying in a post on Truth Social that “large amounts are being manufactured and shipped to the U.S. as needed.” The “‘leakers’ of these treasonous statements are being hunted down,” he added.
While the United States has announced new production agreements for some of the most critical munitions, such as Patriot air defense missiles, the munitions themselves can take as long as two years to produce, and there’s no immediate relief in sight for the shortages.

In the first month of fighting alone, the U.S. fired off more than 850 Tomahawk cruise missiles and more than 1,000 Patriot and Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) systems, The Post previously reported.
The U.S. also used more than 1,300 of the Army’s tactical ballistic missiles in the initial weeks of fighting, one U.S. official told The Post. The ATACMs stockpile — a short-range missile also in demand by Ukraine — is drained to the extent that there’s basically none left, said one of the people familiar, an assertion also reported earlier this week by Reuters.


The scarcity of defensive munitions has had an impact beyond the Middle East. Ukraine is running out of air defenses, and there are few options with which to replenish from Western stockpiles, leaving them exposed to Russia’s long-range attacks.

The lack of interceptor missiles is also altering how the U.S. decides whether to employ munitions against an incoming threat, based on where it’s assessed to be heading and whether or not it’s “a factor,” the U.S. official told The Post, a change in tactics that was first reported by NBC News.
Back at Camp David, as he was confronted by Trump over the bare weapons stockpile, Hegseth defended himself and blamed his deputy, Stephen Feinberg, for the shortages and for not ensuring Trump was fully apprised of the issue, both people familiar said.
The exchange underscored Trump’s increasing frustration with his defense secretary, who was one of the biggest early advocates for taking military action against Iran, convincing Trump it would be a quick and relatively easy win, according to multiple officials.

“This is 100% fake news. Literally never happened. And President Trump has the utmost confidence in Secretary Hegseth,” said White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt in response to questions from The Post.


More than five months after the start of the conflict, and with 18 U.S. service members killed and hundreds injured, Iran and the U.S. remain at a stalemate, with increasing concern from Arab neighbors about the long-term economic effects of the war and the impact of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
“Secretary Hegseth did not mislead anyone about our munitions posture, and he did not blame Deputy Secretary Feinberg. These claims about depleted stockpiles, internal disagreements, the Secretary’s position on Iran … are equally fictional,” Pentagon chief spokesman Sean Parnell said.

In a July Senate hearing, Hegseth sparred with Democrats over whether he had provided Trump with honest assessments of the Iran war, including the risks an extended campaign would pose for U.S. military inventories.




During the hearing, Hegseth declined to discuss his advice to the president and repeatedly blamed any shortages on the Biden administration’s handling of the military, not on the operations that have occurred under Trump’s watch.
Hegseth, Feinberg and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine have asked lawmakers to provide them $67 billion in additional military funding to help cover the costs of the Iran war, with Hegseth telling lawmakers in testimony last month the request filled an “urgent, necessary” need to refill the military’s stockpiles.


Senate Republicans have yet to agree on a strategy to take up the package.
The administration’s overall defense budget request for the coming fiscal year is a record $1.5 trillion and includes tens of billions of dollars to build missiles. But the proposal has stalled as Democrats object to the massive increase, leaving the Pentagon without a clear path to replenishing critical weaponry.

Ever since Signalgate, where Hegseth sent classified information to a chat group that included a reporter just months after being confirmed to the role, rumors have swirled about how long the defense secretary would remain in Trump’s good graces. The president has consistently praised Hegseth, saying he looks straight out of “central casting” and that “he loves war.”
Since taking office, Trump has launched military operations in seven countries: Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria and Venezuela.
The successful operation to capture former Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro appeared to further secure Hegseth’s position. But the stalemate over the Strait of Hormuz and the massive cost and length of the Iran war has eroded Trump’s confidence in him, one of the people familiar with the Camp David conversation said.



“Secretary Hegseth isn’t going anywhere, and he’s going to continue to work side by side with Deputy Secretary Feinberg to execute President Trump’s agenda,” Parnell said in response to questions about that exchange and the munitions depletion.
Stockpile pressures are not a new challenge. Before the war even started, Caine warned Trump that the U.S. did not have the stockpiles necessary to sustain a prolonged conflict.

But the pace and sheer volume of munitions expended by both sides has rapidly accelerated the depletion of key U.S. offensive and defensive munitions.
From Feb. 28 to April 7, which marked the first day of the ceasefire, the U.S. struck more than 13,000 targets in Iran. It has also defended against more than 8,500 incoming Iranian munitions or drones.
The U.S. launched Operation Epic Fury already facing shortfalls in critical munitions.
In the summer of 2025, it expended more than a quarter of its total inventory of THAAD interceptors during Israel’s 12-Day war and Operation Midnight Hammer, where U.S. forces struck Iran’s nuclear sites. The current conflict “has made those inadequacies even worse,” said Brad Bowman, an Army veteran and senior director at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.


While Hegseth and the Pentagon have announced numerous new industry framework agreements to rebuild the arsenal, defense firms “aren’t going to start bending metal until you have a contract and congressional appropriations,” Bowman said.
As a result, it could be years before the inventories are rebuilt. “We’re often talking years between spending what we need to spend, getting the contracts signed, and delivery,” he said. “You don’t just flip the switch and suddenly the munition appears in the hands of the warfighter.”

So they emptied the clip into a dead horse?
 

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I heard that we have plenty of missiles! AND the best missiles. No one has more or better missiles than the US and we have so many b/c DONALD TRUMP ordered them. Obama and Biden gave them all away and we had NO missiles, but DONALD TRUMP ordered Bigly, no one has ever ordered more missiles than he has. And they didn't take months to make either, they were done in RECORD time. No misseles ordered by any POTUS were done even HALF as fast. In fact one of the Navy's highest ranking supply officers (a very tough man) came to Donald Trump with tears in his eyes and said... Sir? Sir? You are the greatest for ordering all these missiles, you are the ONLY POTUS who has the nerve to order this many missiles and have them delivered so Fastly.

Just answering for the MAGA folks, I hope I praised Trump enough or the DOJ will be investigating me next.
 

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I heard that we have plenty of missiles! AND the best missiles. No one has more or better missiles than the US and we have so many b/c DONALD TRUMP ordered them. Obama and Biden gave them all away and we had NO missiles, but DONALD TRUMP ordered Bigly, no one has ever ordered more missile than he has. And they didn't take months to make either, they were done in RECORD time. No misseles ordered by any POTUS were done even HALF as fast. In fact one of the Navy's highest ranking supply officers (a very tough man) came to Donald Trump with tears in his eyes and said... Sir? Sir? You are the greatest for ordering all these missiles, you are the ONLY POTUS who has the nerve to order this many missiles and have them delivered so Fastly.
Thank you for your attention to this matter!!!
 

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Didn't read the entire article, but what people need to understand is that you can't just put in an order for Patriot missile today and expect quick delivery. The funded delivery period - the time from awarding a contract and getting delivery ranges from 24-36 months. And once you're on 3 shifts - assuming you can find the people to man those shifts - there is no more capacity...

If there is a shortage of munitions, and I'd be surprised if there isn't, (remember we gave Ukraine $billions in munitions recently), there is no quick fix. This is not an issue where you can just throw money at it and expect a quick result
Then don't shoot off your entire load at the beginning of a war excursion.
 

RockyMtNole

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The saddest part of the article is seeing Trump blames Hegseth, and then Hegseth blames an aid. There is no leadership in this administration.
Trump fudged up, but, he can't accept that, so he blames Hegseth. Hegseth is a moron who has no business being SecDef, so he can't accept blame for his poor leadership and lack of qualifications, so he blames an underling. The official line will be that everything is Obama and Biden's fault.
It’s pathetic. MAGA = Always someone else’s fault.
 

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President Donald Trump’s frustration over the Iran war boiled over at Camp David last week, where he demanded answers from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on why he had apparently been misled on extreme munitions shortages that now threaten to limit military options with Iran, two people familiar with the exchange told The Washington Post.


The encounter took place on the sidelines of his Cabinet meeting at Camp David on Friday where Trump vented at Hegseth that he thought the munitions issue “had been fixed,” according to both people familiar with the conversation, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity due to fear of retaliation.



The shortages, particularly in long-range guided missiles and air-defense interceptors, have been part of the reason Trump has pulled back from launching additional massive strikes against Iran in recent days, one of the sources said.
Trump said Monday that he had ordered and subsequently called off “the biggest attack since World War II,” pending claims of new negotiations over the Strait of Hormuz.
The president asserted overnight that the United States has “massive amounts” of munitions, saying in a post on Truth Social that “large amounts are being manufactured and shipped to the U.S. as needed.” The “‘leakers’ of these treasonous statements are being hunted down,” he added.
While the United States has announced new production agreements for some of the most critical munitions, such as Patriot air defense missiles, the munitions themselves can take as long as two years to produce, and there’s no immediate relief in sight for the shortages.

In the first month of fighting alone, the U.S. fired off more than 850 Tomahawk cruise missiles and more than 1,000 Patriot and Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) systems, The Post previously reported.
The U.S. also used more than 1,300 of the Army’s tactical ballistic missiles in the initial weeks of fighting, one U.S. official told The Post. The ATACMs stockpile — a short-range missile also in demand by Ukraine — is drained to the extent that there’s basically none left, said one of the people familiar, an assertion also reported earlier this week by Reuters.


The scarcity of defensive munitions has had an impact beyond the Middle East. Ukraine is running out of air defenses, and there are few options with which to replenish from Western stockpiles, leaving them exposed to Russia’s long-range attacks.

The lack of interceptor missiles is also altering how the U.S. decides whether to employ munitions against an incoming threat, based on where it’s assessed to be heading and whether or not it’s “a factor,” the U.S. official told The Post, a change in tactics that was first reported by NBC News.
Back at Camp David, as he was confronted by Trump over the bare weapons stockpile, Hegseth defended himself and blamed his deputy, Stephen Feinberg, for the shortages and for not ensuring Trump was fully apprised of the issue, both people familiar said.
The exchange underscored Trump’s increasing frustration with his defense secretary, who was one of the biggest early advocates for taking military action against Iran, convincing Trump it would be a quick and relatively easy win, according to multiple officials.

“This is 100% fake news. Literally never happened. And President Trump has the utmost confidence in Secretary Hegseth,” said White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt in response to questions from The Post.


More than five months after the start of the conflict, and with 18 U.S. service members killed and hundreds injured, Iran and the U.S. remain at a stalemate, with increasing concern from Arab neighbors about the long-term economic effects of the war and the impact of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
“Secretary Hegseth did not mislead anyone about our munitions posture, and he did not blame Deputy Secretary Feinberg. These claims about depleted stockpiles, internal disagreements, the Secretary’s position on Iran … are equally fictional,” Pentagon chief spokesman Sean Parnell said.

In a July Senate hearing, Hegseth sparred with Democrats over whether he had provided Trump with honest assessments of the Iran war, including the risks an extended campaign would pose for U.S. military inventories.




During the hearing, Hegseth declined to discuss his advice to the president and repeatedly blamed any shortages on the Biden administration’s handling of the military, not on the operations that have occurred under Trump’s watch.
Hegseth, Feinberg and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine have asked lawmakers to provide them $67 billion in additional military funding to help cover the costs of the Iran war, with Hegseth telling lawmakers in testimony last month the request filled an “urgent, necessary” need to refill the military’s stockpiles.


Senate Republicans have yet to agree on a strategy to take up the package.
The administration’s overall defense budget request for the coming fiscal year is a record $1.5 trillion and includes tens of billions of dollars to build missiles. But the proposal has stalled as Democrats object to the massive increase, leaving the Pentagon without a clear path to replenishing critical weaponry.

Ever since Signalgate, where Hegseth sent classified information to a chat group that included a reporter just months after being confirmed to the role, rumors have swirled about how long the defense secretary would remain in Trump’s good graces. The president has consistently praised Hegseth, saying he looks straight out of “central casting” and that “he loves war.”
Since taking office, Trump has launched military operations in seven countries: Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria and Venezuela.
The successful operation to capture former Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro appeared to further secure Hegseth’s position. But the stalemate over the Strait of Hormuz and the massive cost and length of the Iran war has eroded Trump’s confidence in him, one of the people familiar with the Camp David conversation said.



“Secretary Hegseth isn’t going anywhere, and he’s going to continue to work side by side with Deputy Secretary Feinberg to execute President Trump’s agenda,” Parnell said in response to questions about that exchange and the munitions depletion.
Stockpile pressures are not a new challenge. Before the war even started, Caine warned Trump that the U.S. did not have the stockpiles necessary to sustain a prolonged conflict.

But the pace and sheer volume of munitions expended by both sides has rapidly accelerated the depletion of key U.S. offensive and defensive munitions.
From Feb. 28 to April 7, which marked the first day of the ceasefire, the U.S. struck more than 13,000 targets in Iran. It has also defended against more than 8,500 incoming Iranian munitions or drones.
The U.S. launched Operation Epic Fury already facing shortfalls in critical munitions.
In the summer of 2025, it expended more than a quarter of its total inventory of THAAD interceptors during Israel’s 12-Day war and Operation Midnight Hammer, where U.S. forces struck Iran’s nuclear sites. The current conflict “has made those inadequacies even worse,” said Brad Bowman, an Army veteran and senior director at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.


While Hegseth and the Pentagon have announced numerous new industry framework agreements to rebuild the arsenal, defense firms “aren’t going to start bending metal until you have a contract and congressional appropriations,” Bowman said.
As a result, it could be years before the inventories are rebuilt. “We’re often talking years between spending what we need to spend, getting the contracts signed, and delivery,” he said. “You don’t just flip the switch and suddenly the munition appears in the hands of the warfighter.”

Lmao. Two people familiar. So, that's what the Washingrom Post is now calling proper sources? You are an absolute fool to believe this. Not only that, it is common knowledge our stock piles have been depleted. Jesus, you fools will jump at any bullsh-t.

 

tarheelbybirth1

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Then don't shoot off your entire load at the beginning of a war excursion.

Rose Mciver Ghosts GIF by CBS
 

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Journalism relies on real sources. This is nothing but a pathetic hit piece. It's quite common for the joke that is the Post. Look at how many retractions they had to make regarding Russian collusion and Covid because they didn't do their die diligence.

Meanwhile, not a single leftist on here ever verifies sources or posts from sites. It's simply get Trump. Y'all don't care about truth and honesty. Is precisely why Laughingstock still cities Wikipedia regarding Russian collusion like it's real. Lmao.
 

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Journalism relies on real sources. This is nothing but a pathetic hit piece. It's quite common for the joke that is the Post. Look at how many retractions they had to make regarding Russian collusion and Covid because they didn't do their die diligence.

Meanwhile, not a single leftist on here ever verifies sources or posts from sites. It's simply get Trump. Y'all don't care about truth and honesty. Is precisely why Laughingstock still cities Wikipedia regarding Russian collusion like it's real. Lmao.
 
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Journalism relies on real sources. This is nothing but a pathetic hit piece. It's quite common for the joke that is the Post. Look at how many retractions they had to make regarding Russian collusion and Covid because they didn't do their die diligence.

Meanwhile, not a single leftist on here ever verifies sources or posts from sites. It's simply get Trump. Y'all don't care about truth and honesty. Is precisely why Laughingstock still cities Wikipedia regarding Russian collusion like it's real. Lmao.
You have GOT TO BE KIDDING!!! While I'll readily agree on this being a questionable source, Don't you MAGA folks (including you) reference random tweets all the freaking time to make your MAGA points? Just sayin...
 

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lucas80

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Lmao. Two people familiar. So, that's what the Washingrom Post is now calling proper sources? You are an absolute fool to believe this. Not only that, it is common knowledge our stock piles have been depleted. Jesus, you fools will jump at any bullsh-t.

The rats are starting to fight for position in the line at the life rafts. Leaks are becoming common place.
 

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Journalism relies on real sources. This is nothing but a pathetic hit piece. It's quite common for the joke that is the Post. Look at how many retractions they had to make regarding Russian collusion and Covid because they didn't do their die diligence.

Meanwhile, not a single leftist on here ever verifies sources or posts from sites. It's simply get Trump. Y'all don't care about truth and honesty. Is precisely why Laughingstock still cities Wikipedia regarding Russian collusion like it's real. Lmao.
Like when the reflecting pool was a botched job, damn should have believed Trump 🤣🤣 If he’s talking he’s lying
 

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Didn't read the entire article, but what people need to understand is that you can't just put in an order for Patriot missile today and expect quick delivery. The funded delivery period - the time from awarding a contract and getting delivery ranges from 24-36 months. And once you're on 3 shifts - assuming you can find the people to man those shifts - there is no more capacity...

If there is a shortage of munitions, and I'd be surprised if there isn't, (remember we gave Ukraine $billions in munitions recently), there is no quick fix. This is not an issue where you can just throw money at it and expect a quick result
No sh*t, Sherlock.
 

95Hawk

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Didn't read the entire article, but what people need to understand is that you can't just put in an order for Patriot missile today and expect quick delivery. The funded delivery period - the time from awarding a contract and getting delivery ranges from 24-36 months. And once you're on 3 shifts - assuming you can find the people to man those shifts - there is no more capacity...

If there is a shortage of munitions, and I'd be surprised if there isn't, (remember we gave Ukraine $billions in munitions recently), there is no quick fix. This is not an issue where you can just throw money at it and expect a quick result
Ned seems to have a better handle on military supply chains and logistics than our Department of War.

Makes me have a sadz.
 

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Simpletons were duped, an extreme idiot was elected, again, and he surrounded himself with sycophantic morons. How, oh how, did we ever wind up here?
A woman, a woman of color and God forbid, she has a weird laugh. The racism and misogynistic run deep in the US. Couple that with votes and voter suppression and Musk was able to squelch enough votes in key swing states.
 

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Fake news

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I heard that we have plenty of missiles! AND the best missiles. No one has more or better missiles than the US and we have so many b/c DONALD TRUMP ordered them. Obama and Biden gave them all away and we had NO missiles, but DONALD TRUMP ordered Bigly, no one has ever ordered more missiles than he has. And they didn't take months to make either, they were done in RECORD time. No misseles ordered by any POTUS were done even HALF as fast. In fact one of the Navy's highest ranking supply officers (a very tough man) came to Donald Trump with tears in his eyes and said... Sir? Sir? You are the greatest for ordering all these missiles, you are the ONLY POTUS who has the nerve to order this many missiles and have them delivered so Fastly.

Just answering for the MAGA folks, I hope I praised Trump enough or the DOJ will be investigating me next.
I thought you were interviewing for a job on the Trump speech writing team
 
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Journalism relies on real sources. This is nothing but a pathetic hit piece. It's quite common for the joke that is the Post. Look at how many retractions they had to make regarding Russian collusion and Covid because they didn't do their die diligence.

Meanwhile, not a single leftist on here ever verifies sources or posts from sites. It's simply get Trump. Y'all don't care about truth and honesty. Is precisely why Laughingstock still cities Wikipedia regarding Russian collusion like it's real. Lmao.
up until this article came out, the issue about munitions was not a big deal. Anyone with a brain could figure out that as many as we have used, and the number given to the Ukraine, would lower our inventory levels.

In reality, this reporter, and everyone who has jumped on the "we're running out of munitions" train has no actual knowledge of the number and type of munitions we have left. But because one reporter has some unknown sources it has become gospel. Now, if the NY Post or Washington times was given an exclusive tour of our stockpile of munitions and posted a counter article, they'd immediately be referred to as "cultists" or liars.

Personally, I doubt if the Pentagon could tell you with certainty how many and what types of munitions were left in the inventory
 

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up until this article came out, the issue about munitions was not a big deal. Anyone with a brain could figure out that as many as we have used, and the number given to the Ukraine, would lower our inventory levels.

In reality, this reporter, and everyone who has jumped on the "we're running out of munitions" train has no actual knowledge of the number and type of munitions we have left. But because one reporter has some unknown sources it has become gospel. Now, if the NY Post or Washington times was given an exclusive tour of our stockpile of munitions and posted a counter article, they'd immediately be referred to as "cultists" or liars.

Personally, I doubt if the Pentagon could tell you with certainty how many and what types of munitions were left in the inventory
there's been reporting - and general concerns raised - over the status of our munitions stockpiles and supplies throughout the iran war

and if the stockpiiles were depleted - maybe we shouldn't have entered into a war of choice that is almost exclusively dependent on those munitions
 

baltimorened

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there's been reporting - and general concerns raised - over the status of our munitions stockpiles and supplies throughout the iran war

and if the stockpiiles were depleted - maybe we shouldn't have entered into a war of choice that is almost exclusively dependent on those munitions
well, your last sentence is definitely accurate...I doubt if even the most devoted Republican would disagree with that. Of course, that might lead to a question "how did our inventories get so low?"
 
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