Greg has one of the lowest win percentages of any active coach

patk89

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Cool story. Show me where I criticized anything you said in this thread. You replied to a post I made 4 weeks ago.
God forbid, 4 weeks ago on a posting site. My bad. I apologize immensely. I'll try to do better going forward. Best regards.
 

kupuna133

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God forbid, 4 weeks ago on a posting site. My bad. I apologize immensely. I'll try to do better going forward. Best regards.
Again back tracking where did I criticize anything you said in this thread? Yet you resort to name calling and criticize others at will.
 

RU#1fan

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You honestly believe our total coaching expense is the reason we can't buy 4* and 5* players? No way our staff is 2x the B1G median, that's plain ignorant. Total comp is paid in many ways. NIL is the ability to buy a star DE who can pressure the QB into mistakes. We don't have the ability to pay top dollar. Takes excellent coaching to get to the middle of the B1G without commensurate support.
Yeah sure… we didn’t pay top dollar for Duff.
 

scarletbergen

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Oh my, the Negatoids be negatoiding!!!

It’s always been the $$$$$$$$$

It’s still the money, it will always be the money.

Cignetti had the NIL $$$$$$$$ to buy 6, count em 666666 4-star players from the portal. That ain’t coaching, that’s money!!

Forget stupid game day, and half time adjustments.

Buy great players=win games

Ok fools, bring on your next Chris Ash
 
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kupuna133

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Great commentary for a loyal son summing up Schiano as a head coach.

This comment is on point:

@brianfarrell9034

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"Could not agree more Larry. My view for the last many years now, is that the R faithful have been conditioned, including self-appeasement, to accept mediocre as “the norm”. It’s this very type of mindset that dooms it all before we ever get going. How is it possible that we are not setting standards including Big10 championships, playoffs, 10 wins seasons, etc. Everything else in that journey is just noise, distractions and excuses. Personally, I can no longer accept it."


Great listen. And what most if not all are saying in this thread. O one is asking to beat the top 4-5 in conference. But how about competing with that middle 8. Nothing wrong with raising the floor. But it’s beyond time to raise the ceiling. Compete with the top25-50 range and upset a top 25 here and there. 51-70 should not be a coin flip.
 
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scarletbergen

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Great listen. And what most if not all are saying in this thread. O one is asking to beat the top 4-5 in conference. But how about competing with that middle 8. Nothing wrong with raising the floor. But it’s beyond time to raise the ceiling. Compete with the top25-50 range and upset a top 25 here and there. 51-70 should not be a coin flip.
Sure, that’s fine, but recognize that we are just starting to get some money. Our portal haul is good but small. It will take a few years to regularly beat Wisconsin and Iowa and Nebraska.

Now is the absolute worst self-defeating time to be a negatoid!
 
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kupuna133

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Sure, that’s fine, but recognize that we are just starting to get some money. Our portal haul is good but small. It will take a few years to regularly beat Wisconsin and Iowa and Nebraska.

Now is the absolute worst self-defeating time to be a negatoid!
Why will it take years to beat Wisconsin Iowa or Nebraska? Wisconsin and Nebraska are at historical lows in their program. Iowa doesn’t have a significant advantage with talent or NIl spending. These are teams we should be winning against at a greater clip.
 
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Why will it take years to beat Wisconsin Iowa or Nebraska? Wisconsin and Nebraska are at historical lows in their program. Iowa doesn’t have a significant advantage with talent or NIl spending. These are teams we should be winning against at a greater clip.
We will beat them regularly as soon as we regularly have the $$$$$ to get the players. X’s and O’s game day coaching won’t do it regularly.

Schiano has done a fantastic job with our meager resources.

If it’s true that we finally have some money to improve, I’m very confident that we will!!

I’m pretty optimistic for our future. But, it may take a few more years to gradually win more, and gradually get more $$$$, to fully realize our dreams.

Bring in the next Chris Ash and we will be set back for many years.

Don’t be stupid, we have a good coach and he’s a Rutgers man, not some stranger!
Let’s go RU!
 

kupuna133

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We will beat them regularly as soon as we regularly have the $$$$$ to get the players. X’s and O’s game day coaching won’t do it regularly.

Schiano has done a fantastic job with our meager resources.

If it’s true that we finally have some money to improve, I’m very confident that we will!!

I’m pretty optimistic for our future. But, it may take a few more years to gradually win more, and gradually get more $$$$, to fully realize our dreams.

Bring in the next Chris Ash and we will be set back for many years.

Don’t be stupid, we have a good coach and he’s a Rutgers man, not some stranger!
Let’s go RU!
Once again name calling. Did you listen to the above posted podcast. Listen and get back to me.
I like Greg as a human. As a builder of program. A builder of men. His stats and coaching prowess.are nowhere near where you claim them to be when we are playing rosters with similar resources.
 

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We will beat them regularly as soon as we regularly have the $$$$$ to get the players. X’s and O’s game day coaching won’t do it regularly.

Schiano has done a fantastic job with our meager resources.

If it’s true that we finally have some money to improve, I’m very confident that we will!!

I’m pretty optimistic for our future. But, it may take a few more years to gradually win more, and gradually get more $$$$, to fully realize our dreams.

Bring in the next Chris Ash and we will be set back for many years.

Don’t be stupid, we have a good coach and he’s a Rutgers man, not some stranger!
Let’s go RU!
Awful coach terrible man ! Can not wait until we finally stop being scared of his buy out and toss him out
 
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Rutgers Chris

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Mike and Greg
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Mike and Greg
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This needs some analysis
2024- lost to horrific 5-7 Michigan State, 4-8 Northwestern, and 7-6 Rutgers. Rough schedule with Indiana, Minnesota, Oregon, Iowa and Penn State on Schedule. They Beat USC>

2025- only B1G win was Horrific Wisconsin; Lost to Terrible UCLA, not so good Rutgers and lousy Michigan State. Overall, a softer schedule and 2025 was a worse 4-8 than 2024's 4-8.

Ill Allow It Spanish GIF
 
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RUTGERS95

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Why will it take years to beat Wisconsin Iowa or Nebraska? Wisconsin and Nebraska are at historical lows in their program. Iowa doesn’t have a significant advantage with talent or NIl spending. These are teams we should be winning against at a greater clip.
ignore joe, spent too many mornings eating breakfast across from a crayon eater
 
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RU#1fan

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Why will it take years to beat Wisconsin Iowa or Nebraska? Wisconsin and Nebraska are at historical lows in their program. Iowa doesn’t have a significant advantage with talent or NIl spending. These are teams we should be winning against at a greater clip.
Winning at a greater clip ? How about winning one game against any of them.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Our coaching spend is in the bottom half of the league in which we compete yet you shout about overspending. "Burry" your head if you want.

It actually doesn’t matter at this point. The task in front of Schiano right now is pretty straightforward.

1) He can’t have a 4 win season. If he does, he’s out. Even if half our starters sustain season ending injuries. No scenario where he’s retained if he doesn’t match last season’s record at bare minimum.

2) He’s going to turn the keys over to his coordinators - his success will be defined by theirs. Started to do this gradually the past 2 years with Kirk. And now the hires he made on D aren’t guys coming here to be figureheads to Greg. If the defense is notably better, and the offense has a solid season (comparable to last season with no notable drop off) - that’ll represent “enough” year over year success for him to be brought back, and will in the short run, pacify the concerns about his game day decisions (since he’ll have moved in a more passive oversight direction).

With 2 - everyone of course wants to see us win more - but it’s hard to point to a record he “must attain” because there are just so many different factors that will impact that and Greg was “smart” strategically in what he did with the overhaul of the defense - so if that unit impresses relative to expectations and the offense remains steady - most fans will probably want them to get a shot in 2027 to build on it (which would mean Greg is along for the ride).

It’s really this simple. Optically - the team can’t lose more than last year and the coordinator’s coaching teams on both sides need to show clear promise. That’s what’s going to determine Greg’s fate.

It’s highly unlikely Greg is planning to insert himself - he wouldn’t have picked Johansen for that. So this is where we are at - for better or worse.
 
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scarletbergen

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Once again name calling. Did you listen to the above posted podcast. Listen and get back to me.
I like Greg as a human. As a builder of program. A builder of men. His stats and coaching prowess.are nowhere near where you claim them to be when we are playing rosters with similar resources.
Once again name calling. Did you listen to the above posted podcast. Listen and get back to me.
I like Greg as a human. As a builder of program. A builder of men. His stats and coaching prowess.are nowhere near where you claim them to be when we are playing rosters with similar resources.

Once again name calling. Did you listen to the above posted podcast. Listen and get back to me.
I like Greg as a human. As a builder of program. A builder of men. His stats and coaching prowess.are nowhere near where you claim them to be when we are playing rosters with similar resources.
We haven’t had similar resources EVER!!
We have always been the poor kid with holes in his shoes. Sometimes for good reasons (academics) and sometimes for bad (Hobbs). Schiano has been the one guy who DID more with much less!
 

NBKnight

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It actually doesn’t matter at this point. The task in front of Schiano right now is pretty straightforward.

1) He can’t have a 4 win season. If he does, he’s out. Even if half our starters sustain season ending injuries. No scenario where he’s retained if he doesn’t match last season’s record at bare minimum.

2) He’s going to turn the keys over to his coordinators - his success will be defined by theirs. Started to do this gradually the past 2 years with Kirk. And now the hires he made on D aren’t guys coming here to be figureheads to Greg. If the defense is notably better, and the offense has a solid season (comparable to last season with no notable drop off) - that’ll represent “enough” year over year success for him to be brought back, and will in the short run, pacify the concerns about his game day decisions (since he’ll have moved in a more passive oversight direction).

With 2 - everyone of course wants to see us win more - but it’s hard to point to a record he “must attain” because there are just so many different factors that will impact that and Greg was “smart” strategically in what he did with the overhaul of the defense - so if that unit impresses relative to expectations and the offense remains steady - most fans will probably want them to get a shot in 2027 to build on it (which would mean Greg is along for the ride).

It’s really this simple. Optically - the team can’t lose more than last year and the coordinator’s coaching teams on both sides need to show clear promise. That’s what’s going to determine Greg’s fate.

It’s highly unlikely Greg is planning to insert himself - he wouldn’t have picked Johansen for that. So this is where we are at - for better or worse.
He is the headcoach so he has overall responsibility, but he has not micro managed the coordinators in 2.0 until he had to, like last year when he took over for Smith.
 
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Pils86

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This needs some analysis
2024- lost to horrific 5-7 Michigan State, 4-8 Northwestern, and 7-6 Rutgers. Rough schedule with Indiana, Minnesota, Oregon, Iowa and Penn State on Schedule. They Beat USC>

2025- only B1G win was Horrific Wisconsin; Lost to Terrible UCLA, not so good Rutgers and lousy Michigan State. Overall, a softer schedule and 2025 was a worse 4-8 than 2024's 4-8.

Ill Allow It Spanish GIF
In fairness Wiscy schedule was brutal in 2025 - Alabama, Michigan, OSU, Oregon, Indiana and Iowa, all Top 25. If would be nice if we could get a win against Wiscy and USC one of these years.
 
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