Do we now have the size (and pieces) to reach the Final Four?

Franisdaman

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We obviously needed a true center vs Illinois in the Elite 8.

Now we have a 7'3" and 6'11" guy (who's hopefully ready to play some minutes) to help Cam man the paint.

It's still kinda surreal to think that with 7:27 to go in the game and a Final Four berth on the line, IOWA was leading Illinois 51-50.

Unfortunately, we got outscored 21-8 the rest of the way.

 
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RagnarLothbrok

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We obviously needed a true center vs Illinois in the Elite 8.

Now we have a 7'3" and 6'11" guy (who's hopefully ready to play some minutes) to help Cam man the paint.

It's still kinda surreal to think that with 7:27 to go in the game and a Final Four berth on the line, IOWA was leading Illinois 51-50.

Unfortunately, we got outscored 21-8 the rest of the way.

I will say this: any team that prioritizes defense, has enough size and scoring to compete at the P4 level, and is led by an elite coach can make a run in March.

So, can they? Sure. The problem is plenty of other teams are capable as well. And in the end, the same factors apply as they always do—who’s healthy, who’s hot, who’s seeded where, and what upsets occur that can help a team like Iowa win four games in a row.

And then there’s the truly elite teams (like Michigan last year) who would have sent any team packing and heading home early regardless of round.

In short, you have to be both lucky and good.
 

Hawkangler

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I will say this: any team that prioritizes defense, has enough size and scoring to compete at the P4 level, and is led by an elite coach can make a run in March.

So, can they? Sure. The problem is plenty of other teams are capable as well. And in the end, the same factors apply as they always do—who’s healthy, who’s hot, who’s seeded where, and what upsets occur that can help a team like Iowa win four games in a row.

And then there’s the truly elite teams (like Michigan last year) who would have sent any team packing and heading home early regardless of round.

In short, you have to be both lucky and good.
Totally agree, good defense wins championship.

Defense
Rebounding
Ability to create and pass in the paint
Perimeter Shooting - have to knock down threes.
 

oldxbbc

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We obviously needed a true center vs Illinois in the Elite 8.

Now we have a 7'3" and 6'11" guy (who's hopefully ready to play some minutes) to help Cam man the paint.

It's still kinda surreal to think that with 7:27 to go in the game and a Final Four berth on the line, IOWA was leading Illinois 51-50.

Unfortunately, we got outscored 21-8 the rest of the way.

I think it’s too early to predict. Can the 7’3” guy play in the BIG and replacing Stirtz is still a big? IMO.
 

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We obviously needed a true center vs Illinois in the Elite 8.

Now we have a 7'3" and 6'11" guy (who's hopefully ready to play some minutes) to help Cam man the paint.

It's still kinda surreal to think that with 7:27 to go in the game and a Final Four berth on the line, IOWA was leading Illinois 51-50.

Unfortunately, we got outscored 21-8 the rest of the way.

With a big guy that could have held his own against Illinois' bigs, I'm convinced Iowa wins that game.

But, this year? What player(s) will step up to replace Stirtz's leadership and production? Also Banks, who I'm assuming is gone unless I missed some news. What obstacles will Iowa have to get through on their way back to even the Elite 8? New year, no guarantees obviously, but I wouldn't be too shocked at anything Ben accomplishes given his track record. Could also lose in the 2nd round.. The NCAA Tournament is so unpredictable.
 

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I hope having the Elite Eight run so early in Ben’s tenure doesn’t cause fans to throw a fit if they don’t make it back to that point or better in the next few years. I think he’ll continue to have tremendous success, but in a one and done tournament you just never know
 

Hawksfor3

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With a big guy that could have held his own against Illinois' bigs, I'm convinced Iowa wins that game.

But, this year? What player(s) will step up to replace Stirtz's leadership and production? Also Banks, who I'm assuming is gone unless I missed some news. What obstacles will Iowa have to get through on their way back to even the Elite 8? New year, no guarantees obviously, but I wouldn't be too shocked at anything Ben accomplishes given his track record. Could also lose in the 2nd round.. The NCAA Tournament is so unpredictable.
I doubt there was much physicality in the WCC compared to the BIG. If he can handle that, then he should be ok. As far as replacing Bennett at the point, that's another issue. Combs will have to step up big time to come close to what Bennett provided, starting with shooting. Banks? No news yet, and I doubt he comes back.
 
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I doubt there was much physicality in the WCC compared to the BIG. If he can handle that, then he should be ok. As far as replacing Bennett at the point, that's another issue. Combs will have to step up big time to come close to what Bennett provided, starting with shooting. Banks? No news yet, and I doubt he comes back.
I wouldn't underestimate Coleman having a big impact either.
 

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I hope having the Elite Eight run so early in Ben’s tenure doesn’t cause fans to throw a fit if they don’t make it back to that point or better in the next few years. I think he’ll continue to have tremendous success, but in a one and done tournament you just never know
True to an extent. I do know that coaching matters greatly in the tournament. They won 3 games as the underdogs I believe. Not to bag on the guy, but I’m not sure Fran won as an underdog in the tournament his entire tenure at Iowa?
 

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True to an extent. I do know that coaching matters greatly in the tournament. They won 3 games as the underdogs I believe. Not to bag on the guy, but I’m not sure Fran won as an underdog in the tournament his entire tenure at Iowa?
Think we were favored over Clemson. Could be wrong though.
 
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HawkInDenver

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I doubt there was much physicality in the WCC compared to the BIG. If he can handle that, then he should be ok. As far as replacing Bennett at the point, that's another issue. Combs will have to step up big time to come close to what Bennett provided, starting with shooting. Banks? No news yet, and I doubt he comes back.
Do we have the guys? Who knows? The coach has the guys he wants and we will see what happens. It's very hard to replace a Bennett Stirtz but we got better and more experienced in other areas. It feels like whack-a-mole where every year there are multiple weaknesses you have to overcome. I liked the Coleman addition -not Bennett but a pretty good looking PG. I'm looking forward to finding out!
 
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Just watched a podcast from 6 days ago where the host talked about Daughtry. Iowa was mentioned a couple of times, but at the end of the pod, the host emphasized that the Big Dogs are going to come out of their pens and offer up. Arrrgh. But, we expected that.
 

Franisdaman

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True to an extent. I do know that coaching matters greatly in the tournament. They won 3 games as the underdogs I believe. Not to bag on the guy, but I’m not sure Fran won as an underdog in the tournament his entire tenure at Iowa?

Think we were favored over Clemson. Could be wrong though.

IOWA was a

.....1.5 point favorite vs Clemson
10.5 point underdog vs Florida
.....1.5 point underdog vs Nebraska

and then a

.....6.5 point underdog vs Illinois




 
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We obviously needed a true center vs Illinois in the Elite 8.

Now we have a 7'3" and 6'11" guy (who's hopefully ready to play some minutes) to help Cam man the paint.

It's still kinda surreal to think that with 7:27 to go in the game and a Final Four berth on the line, IOWA was leading Illinois 51-50.

Unfortunately, we got outscored 21-8 the rest of the way.

Exactly. Iowa was a few minutes--and a few inches--from the Final Four with a largely mid-major roster. The more I think about it, the more amazing Ben's tourney run becomes. McCollom is that rare coach who's in the right place at the right time. Iowa will be a force not only in the BIG but on the national scene as long as Ben is the coach, and that should be for quite a long time. If you can't get excited about Iowa men's basketball now, you never will. IMHO, of course.
 

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Just watched a podcast from 6 days ago where the host talked about Daughtry. Iowa was mentioned a couple of times, but at the end of the pod, the host emphasized that the Big Dogs are going to come out of their pens and offer up. Arrrgh. But, we expected that.
Iowa is a big dog now. Just having a legit shot at Daughtry seems proof of that. Someday Iowa is gonna find that special kid who understands what an opportunity there is in Iowa City under Ben McCollom. Maybe it'll be Daughtry.
 
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We lost our top 3 scorers from a year ago. Going to need to replace that production.

We lost really good senior leadership in Bennett and Banks. Who steps up there?

I'm encouraged with the emergence of Jirak in the summer and the addition of McKeever along with Tate and Coop making good strides.
 

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True to an extent. I do know that coaching matters greatly in the tournament. They won 3 games as the underdogs I believe. Not to bag on the guy, but I’m not sure Fran won as an underdog in the tournament his entire tenure at Iowa?
I think Iowa was a 10 seed when they beat Cincy, but that's the only NCAA tournament upset going by seed, that comes to mind. They took Tennessee to OT in the 2nd round in the next game. 2019 I think. So they played pretty well that year. Other years, not so much.

Ben, on the other hand, has 3 already in two years. Drake over Missouri, and then FL and Nebraska. Good sign.
 
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Hawksfor3

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Are they going to end up being right?


These dudes might get a surprise. Bennett's gone, but we have a C-O-A-C-H who knows how to utilize the roster to get the best from them, and a tough and talented group. We have a tournament experienced roster, and Ben will not be satisfied until, that's right, until they win it all. There, I said it.
 

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IOWA was a

.....1.5 point favorite vs Clemson
10.5 point underdog vs Florida
.....1.5 point underdog vs Nebraska

and then a

.....6.5 point underdog vs Illinois




Ahhhh, but according to the seeding, Iowa was the underdog. 8 v 9.
 

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Who knows if it will happen but we finally have a system that will put us in a position to go on a run every year. That's what's so refreshing and exciting

Love me some Tate Sage.. cant wait to see what him and Coop do this season. Really hope Thompson makes an immediate impact because those 3 on the court together with Combs distributing the ball and the behemoth down low, we're gonna be a problem
 

Franisdaman

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We obviously needed a true center vs Illinois in the Elite 8.

Now we have a 7'3" and 6'11" guy (who's hopefully ready to play some minutes) to help Cam man the paint.

It's still kinda surreal to think that with 7:27 to go in the game and a Final Four berth on the line, IOWA was leading Illinois 51-50.

Unfortunately, we got outscored 21-8 the rest of the way.



A lot of blame could go around for the Elite 8 loss to Illinois, imo.

--> 6'10" Alvaro didn't show up mentally to play and Ben benched him. In 9 minutes, Alvaro was 0-2 from the field for 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 2 turnovers, 1 steal, 1 block.

--> IOWA got abused 40-12 in points in the paint.

--> IOWA got abused on 2nd chance points, too (13-7).

--> Ben, essentially, ended up only playing 7 guys in the 2nd half; I think their tired legs affected their shots.

In the 1st half we shot 57% (12-21) from the field.

In the 2nd half we only shot 23% (6-26) from the field.


The details:

1st Half Scoring:

........6-12 (50%) from three
.............6-9 (67%) from inside the arc
....................................................................
12-21 (57%) Overall Shooting

..........2-2 (100%) FTs
....................................................................
32 Points Scored
=====================

2nd Half Scoring:

........5-18 (28%) from three
.............1-8 (12%) from inside the arc
....................................................................
....6-26 (23%) Overall Shooting

..10-12 (83%) FTs
....................................................................
27 Points Scored
=====================

 
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Are they going to end up being right?


Here is the answer for those Einstein’s. Who will take the shot? Anyone on the floor! This year we do not have the One Guy, we could have 5. As a former baseball coach that I knew once said about facing a team with a stud. We have to worry about one guy for them. They have to worry about 9 guys for us.
 

Hawksfor3

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A lot of blame could go around for the Elite 8 loss to Illinois, imo.

--> 6'10" Alvaro didn't show up mentally to play and Ben benched him. In 9 minutes, Alvaro was 0-2 from the field for 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 2 turnovers, 1 steal, 1 block.

--> IOWA got abused 40-12 in points in the paint.

--> IOWA got abused on 2nd chance points, too (13-7).

--> Ben, essentially, ended up only playing 7 guys in the 2nd half; I think their tired legs affected their shots.

In the 1st half we shot 57% (12-21) from the field.

In the 2nd half we only shot 23% (6-26) from the field.


The details:

1st Half Scoring:

........6-12 (50%) from three
.............6-9 (67%) from inside the arc
....................................................................
12-21 (57%) Overall Shooting

..........2-2 (100%) FTs
....................................................................
32 Points Scored
=====================

2nd Half Scoring:

........5-18 (28%) from three
.............1-8 (12%) from inside the arc
....................................................................
....6-26 (23%) Overall Shooting

..10-12 (83%) FTs
....................................................................
27 Points Scored
=====================

Folgueiras not showing up was the difference to me. If he does that at Louisville, they'll be pissed.
 
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T. Kimball

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Who knows if it will happen but we finally have a system that will put us in a position to go on a run every year. That's what's so refreshing and exciting

Love me some Tate Sage.. cant wait to see what him and Coop do this season. Really hope Thompson makes an immediate impact because those 3 on the court together with Combs distributing the ball and the behemoth down low, we're gonna be a problem
You mean Mt. MCKEEVER?
 
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Hawksfor3

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If talent exceeds expectations, will still need some of this…

I think this is a fair statement, given that Ben has stated that on more than one occasion last season. Talent and tenacity can carry a team a long way, but a little luck onest awhile goes a long way. :)
 

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I could end up being dead wrong, but I think the loss of BS is being way overblown by both the national pundits and some Iowa fans.

Ben McCollum was putting up an absurd winning % just as much without Bennett Stirtz on his rosters as he was with him as the PG.

The experience will be missed early on, but nobody is totally & completely irreplaceable on a sports roster.
 
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