Planning my vacation to Spanish Ceuta

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This is an interesting conspiracy theory. If we (as in the world in general) were to support Moroccan control and possession of Ceuta, then we should theoretically support Russian possession of Crimea, correct?
Yes, and taking the proximity to its logical conclusion, it would mean:
  • The USA is off the hook for supplying anymore aid to Ukraine
  • The USA supports an Argentine takeover of the Falkland Islands. Argentina's president (a close Trump ally) is up for re-election next year and is in a tough fight, but if he successfully annexes the Falklands, he'll actually win in a landslide.
  • The USA has a logical claim on Greenland and potentially Canada if it comes to that.
 
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Turkey and specifically Istanbul (formerly Constantinople) was considered a crown jewel of Europe and Christianity. Was there a huge outcry when it became Muslim? Maybe at the time, but it ultimately doesn't matter. Ideals are peaceful but history is violent, and if Spain wants to keep the land they have claimed AND PROTECT IT'S CITIZENS then they will have to do it with force. Just a guess, but i doubt their current PM has any intentions of drawing hard lines.
 
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Almost all of them went back to Morocco because of “hunger and hostility”. Ya think? Overrun a little enclave and expect to get taken in no problem. Yeah right.
 

HailStout

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Turkey and specifically Istanbul (formerly Constantinople) was considered a crown jewel of Europe and Christianity. Was there a huge outcry when it became Muslim? Maybe at the time, but it ultimately doesn't matter. Ideals are peaceful but history is violent, and if Spain wants to keep the land they have claimed AND PROTECT IT'S CITIZENS then they will have to do it with force. Just a guess, but i doubt their current PM has any intentions of drawing hard lines.
You snuck a They Might be Giants reference in there didn’t you?
 

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Spain is 10% Christian. British-Muslims to Native British birthrate is 8:1 There are now 32 Sharia Courts in the UK and they basically ignore any overriding British law. Once they finish off Europe, the West will be next. Just about the time Trump will be out of office. Trust me, Islam is not your friend nor mine. They start off peaceful, then before you know it, boom......there goes your head because you claim to be Chrisitan.
 

She Mate Me

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Spain is 10% Christian. British-Muslims to Native British birthrate is 8:1 There are now 32 Sharia Courts in the UK and they basically ignore any overriding British law. Once they finish off Europe, the West will be next. Just about the time Trump will be out of office. Trust me, Islam is not your friend nor mine. They start off peaceful, then before you know it, boom......there goes your head because you claim to be Chrisitan.

If you wanna take a trip to real crazy town, imagine the scenario when true “Country Boy can Survive” red necks realize the A Rabs really are coming for their sheet.

I’ll be long dead, but I know who my money’d be on.
 

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Spain is 10% Christian. British-Muslims to Native British birthrate is 8:1 There are now 32 Sharia Courts in the UK and they basically ignore any overriding British law. Once they finish off Europe, the West will be next. Just about the time Trump will be out of office. Trust me, Islam is not your friend nor mine. They start off peaceful, then before you know it, boom......there goes your head because you claim to be Chrisitan.
Those courts do NOT override British law. That is a bald faced lie. my question in a previous post went unanswered. I take it that none of you in this thread have been to Europe or Spain.
 
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HotMop

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Those courts do NOT override British law. That is a bald faced lie. my question in a previous post went unanswered. I take it that none of you un this thread have been to Europe or Spain.
L4 to the rescue
 
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"It's no accident that mass immigration has become one of the most effective and destructive means of diluting and ultimately undermining nationalism. By importing large foreign populations, a nation gradually acquires "citizens" who have no inherited love for the country, no deep commitment to its continuity, no appreciation for its history and heritage, and no natural attachment to its national identity. Before long, this weakens the invisible bonds that once united a people. A citizenry bound together by a shared homeland, common history, and national loyalty is increasingly replaced by a population of atomised individuals with little allegiance beyond their own immediate interests. It's all intentional—right across the Western world. National identity gives way to rootless globalism, and loyalty to one's nation and people is supplanted by dependence on those in power who promise the greatest benefits in exchange for loyalty." @CaldronPool on X
I used to think it was paranoia to think globalists were trying to divide and destroy the US and the West with Marxist garbage like this, but it's painfully obvious now and you have to be completely clueless not to see it. Not gonna go "there" and name any, but so many politicians, judges and attorneys are getting rich to divide by race baiting, pushing identity politics and Marxism while "looking the other way," so to speak...and they disguise it well by pretending it's virtue. If you push back, you're a racist, or Nazi or xenophobe. They know exactly what they are doing.
 
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She Mate Me

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Spain is 10% Christian. British-Muslims to Native British birthrate is 8:1 There are now 32 Sharia Courts in the UK and they basically ignore any overriding British law. Once they finish off Europe, the West will be next. Just about the time Trump will be out of office. Trust me, Islam is not your friend nor mine. They start off peaceful, then before you know it, boom......there goes your head because you claim to be Chrisitan.

I don’t have the energy to fight the fight, but I’m GD certain Spain is not 10% Christian.

Be better.
 

HailStout

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Spain is 10% Christian. British-Muslims to Native British birthrate is 8:1 There are now 32 Sharia Courts in the UK and they basically ignore any overriding British law. Once they finish off Europe, the West will be next. Just about the time Trump will be out of office. Trust me, Islam is not your friend nor mine. They start off peaceful, then before you know it, boom......there goes your head because you claim to be Chrisitan.
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Spain is 10% Christian. British-Muslims to Native British birthrate is 8:1 There are now 32 Sharia Courts in the UK and they basically ignore any overriding British law. Once they finish off Europe, the West will be next. Just about the time Trump will be out of office. Trust me, Islam is not your friend nor mine. They start off peaceful, then before you know it, boom......there goes your head because you claim to be Chrisitan.
But you HAVE to trust and love them or else you're a bigot racist xenophobe fascist who is afraid of something different. They are your friends and mean no harm to the country.
 
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Spain is 10% Christian. British-Muslims to Native British birthrate is 8:1 There are now 32 Sharia Courts in the UK and they basically ignore any overriding British law. Once they finish off Europe, the West will be next. Just about the time Trump will be out of office. Trust me, Islam is not your friend nor mine. They start off peaceful, then before you know it, boom......there goes your head because you claim to be Chrisitan.
I don’t know what echo chamber you fell off into but yikes.
 

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This appears awful. All the way around. I also abhor the way it is being immediately used as political fodder in our country by pretty mush everybody
Why does learning from others make it political fodder?

I mean it’s rather smart to learn and not make the same mistakes as others isn’t it?
 
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To each his own. I never felt threatened when we had a surge on our border after Biden kinda said we don’t care about that any more. Google says that it is basically handled now, so that might have been too short lived to be a great political weapon:

    • Voluntary Returns: The vast majority of the people who crossed into Ceuta have already returned voluntarily to Morocco.
    • Spanish Action: The Prime Minister of Spain, Pedro Sánchez, visited Ceuta and deployed military and police reinforcements to secure the border and restore order.
Oh, come on, AI bot, there is no way Spain's Prime Minister is "Pedro Sanchez" of "Vote for Pedro" fame. Try harder.

I suppose his Deputy Ministers are "Sancho Panza" and "Juan Valdez"? And the Mayor of Spanish Cueta must be " El Guapo".
 
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This appears awful. All the way around. I also abhor the way it is being immediately used as political fodder in our country by pretty mush everybody
This reminds me of the great Norm MacDonald. He was with Patton Oswalt, talking about the Bill Cosby situation and eventual arrest. Oswalt (being who he is) said the worst part of that whole situation was finding out what a hypocrite his comedic hero was.

Norm (being who he is) responded by saying he sorta thought the worst part was "the raping".
 

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Oh, come on, AI bot, there is no way Spain's Prime Minister is "Pedro Sanchez" of "Vote for Pedro" fame. Try harder.

I suppose his Deputy Ministers are "Sancho Panza" and "Juan Valdez"? And the Mayor of Spanish Cueta must be " El Guapo".

No, dummy. The Deputy PM is Napoleon Dynamite.
 

HailStout

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This reminds me of the great Norm MacDonald. He was with Patton Oswalt, talking about the Bill Cosby situation and eventual arrest. Oswalt (being who he is) said the worst part of that whole situation was finding out what a hypocrite his comedic hero was.

Norm (being who he is) responded by saying he sorta thought the worst part was "the raping".


dear god the man was hilarious
 

leeinator

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Those courts do NOT override British law. That is a bald faced lie. my question in a previous post went unanswered. I take it that none of you in this thread have been to Europe or Spain.
My nephew and his British wife (a Medical Doctor) with their 3 children living in Manchester told me this when they were visiting in Alabama earlier this year. The British have warned the Sharia Courts, but they could care less. They determine their own judgements the way they see it regardless of British Law. And as their population and political power increases dramatically, watch what happens......the Brits are paper tigers on immigration. Even to the death of themselves.
 

leeinator

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I don’t have the energy to fight the fight, but I’m GD certain Spain is not 10% Christian.

Be better.

I don’t know what echo chamber you fell off into but yikes.
We have direct Spanish missionaries who have done the research and are over there trying to start up new protestant churches. It is almost impossible for them to do so, and we had to remove certain new churches out of areas where they were being physically threatened.
 

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My nephew and his British wife (a Medical Doctor) with their 3 children living in Manchester told me this when they were visiting in Alabama earlier this year. The British have warned the Sharia Courts, but they could care less. They determine their own judgements the way they see it regardless of British Law. And as their population and political power increases dramatically, watch what happens......the Brits are paper tigers on immigration. Even to the death of themselves.
They were wrong.
 

L4Dawg

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We have direct Spanish missionaries who have done the research and are over there trying to start up new protestant churches. It is almost impossible for them to do so, and we had to remove certain new churches out of areas where they were being physically threatened.
I take it you don't consider Catholics to be Christians.
 

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Why does learning from others make it political fodder?

I mean it’s rather smart to learn and not make the same mistakes as others isn’t it?
We can't even learn from our own mistakes. What makes you think we can learn from the mistakes of others?
 

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I don’t know what echo chamber you fell off into but yikes.
Agreed. Co-pilot say: No, Sharia councils in Britain do not supersede British law. British law remains supreme and enforceable throughout the UK. Religious bodies may provide guidance or voluntary arbitration, but they cannot override the authority of UK courts.

That makes the most common sense and seem most likely but will not satisfy anyone who wants the truth to be otherwise. See below for the likely reason for confusion. Confusion and incorrectly referencing something for benefit is the manipulative move of political divisiveness.

I learned this while digging in:

The UK Arbitration Act 1996 is the primary law governing arbitration in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland. It allows parties to agree to have disputes decided by a private arbitrator rather than by a court. The Act is built around three core principles:
  1. Fair resolution of disputes by an impartial tribunal
  2. Freedom of the parties to choose how their dispute is resolved
  3. Minimal court intervention except where specifically allowed by the Act.
This is where many misunderstandings arise.
The Arbitration Act allows individuals to choose arbitration based on various principles or rules, including certain religious principles, but only within the limits of UK law. A religious arbitration panel does not become a government court and cannot override statutory rights or criminal law.
 

grinningmule

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Agreed. Co-pilot say: No, Sharia councils in Britain do not supersede British law. British law remains supreme and enforceable throughout the UK. Religious bodies may provide guidance or voluntary arbitration, but they cannot override the authority of UK courts.

That makes the most common sense and seem most likely but will not satisfy anyone who wants the truth to be otherwise. See below for the likely reason for confusion. Confusion and incorrectly referencing something for benefit is the manipulative move of political divisiveness.

I learned this while digging in:

The UK Arbitration Act 1996 is the primary law governing arbitration in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland. It allows parties to agree to have disputes decided by a private arbitrator rather than by a court. The Act is built around three core principles:
  1. Fair resolution of disputes by an impartial tribunal
  2. Freedom of the parties to choose how their dispute is resolved
  3. Minimal court intervention except where specifically allowed by the Act.
This is where many misunderstandings arise.
The Arbitration Act allows individuals to choose arbitration based on various principles or rules, including certain religious principles, but only within the limits of UK law. A religious arbitration panel does not become a government court and cannot override statutory rights or criminal law.
I think the major issue is the Muslims choose to ignore the law and the authorities refuse to enforce it, especially in the Muslim majority areas. UK authorities have a bad track record of lowering the hammer on anyone but "immigrants".
 
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