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olblue

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No European club wanted him on his terms because he is not capable of producing a full season at the highest level. He knows that as well. That’s why he is in MLS. That’s what I’ve been saying,, the same thing all along. What evidence are you talking about? The World Cup is not the highest level the sport. We have no evidence to go by.
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patdog

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No European club wanted him on his terms because he is not capable of producing a full season at the highest level. He knows that as well. That’s why he is in MLS. That’s what I’ve been saying,, the same thing all along. What evidence are you talking about? The World Cup is not the highest level the sport. We have no evidence to go by.
Not sure how a post about England-Norway degenerated into yet another debate about Messi. But nobody wanted him (which is what you originally said) and nobody wanted to match Miami’s offer are two different things. MLS has always overspent for players who are a bit past their prime but still damn good players. As often , the truth is somewhere in the middle. Is he still damn good (at times elite) player, obviously yes. Can he hold up over a 50+ game season at his age, no.
 
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No European club wanted him on his terms
So you're conceding the central point: European clubs were interested in signing him. Whether every club was willing to meet his contractual demands is a separate issue. Your original claim wasn't that negotiations broke down—it was that no European club wanted him. Those are fundamentally different arguments.

Even after shifting the goalposts, your revised argument still doesn't hold. The evidence shows there was genuine interest from multiple European clubs. The reason he didn't remain in Europe wasn't a lack of demand; it was that Barcelona was his only preferred European destination, and that move ultimately wasn't feasible.
 

BulldogBlitz

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Not sure how a post about England-Norway degenerated into yet another debate about Messi.


Hahahhaa....you must avoid any soccer posts on social media right now. EVERY post would end up with a bitchfest about messi. Now that we are down to 4 teams, im OK with it. Im not sure what he did to garner this heat. There have been others in the past that I can think of that never got this sort of "attention"
 
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L4Dawg

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So you're conceding the central point: European clubs were interested in signing him. Whether every club was willing to meet his contractual demands is a separate issue. Your original claim wasn't that negotiations broke down—it was that no European club wanted him. Those are fundamentally different arguments.

Even after shifting the goalposts, your revised argument still doesn't hold. The evidence shows there was genuine interest from multiple European clubs. The reason he didn't remain in Europe wasn't a lack of demand; it was that Barcelona was his only preferred European destination, and that move ultimately wasn't feasible.
No European club was interested in him on terms he would accept. I've said that from the first. You have been arguing with yourself.
 

L4Dawg

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Messi is still an elite player at age 39. Most players are long retired by the time they are 39. Messi might win the Golden Boot in the World Cup. Is he still the best player in the world? No. Is he still an elite player that would walk into the starting lineup of almost every team in Europe? Yes.
But could he stay there for the season? The answer to that is no. His record in MLS proves that. That's why he isn't in Europe.
 
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No European club was interested in him on terms he would accept. I've said that from the first. You have been arguing with yourself.
You never made the "on terms he would accept" argument until your posts at 1925 last night—after it became clear your original arguments had completely fallen apart. That wasn't your position from the start; it was a revision you introduced only after your initial claims were thoroughly refuted.
 

L4Dawg

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You never made the "on terms he would accept" argument until your posts at 1925 last night—after it became clear your original arguments had completely fallen apart. That wasn't your position from the start; it was a revision you introduced only after your initial claims were thoroughly refuted.
Several days/week ago in another thread. You are very late to this party. Fanboys are so tiresome. If you want to believe a 39 year old who plays in MLS could still be playing the top level in Europe then by all means do so. He knows he can’t, that’s why he is here. I’m done, we are just going in circles here. Declare your victory now.
 
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I've already made it clear that I have no personal stake in this. My only objective has been to correct the inaccuracies in your argument. Whether you choose to engage with the evidence or continue ignoring it is entirely your decision.
 
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