Moulton vs McNeill
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I had the chance to go to a couple practices this spring. Moulton seems to be "the guy" going into the season based on past performance and dependability. In talking to an assistant coach, they clearly love what the young guy brings to the table. Seems to be the more dynamic player of the two.
The question is, will he be willing to wait? Lots of carries ahead of him on the depth chart.
4 viable candidates to get on the field and get touches. In this day and age, it's hard to imagine all 4 remain happy/content enough to stay. Hope they do though.
There have been years when we've gone almost the entire season playing #3 and #4 and beyond because of injuries.
Hopefully that doesn't happen, obviously, but at least we know McNeil and Xavier Williams have gotten game action and seem capable of stepping up.
Kid had 169 yards rushing on the season and people want to put him in a starting position.......
Add in Phillips who ran for almost 2000 yds last season......
Yes I know. I was responding to a post about injuries and having to rely on the 3rd and 4th RBs which are Williams and McNeil.
I personally think Phillips will be the best back for us next year. He appears to be a great one-cut back.
running back has got to be the deepest position on the whole team, by far. If I am wrong, somebody tell me.
any one of those four guys (Moulton, Phillips, McNeil, and Williams) could start for us and probably do a good job, especially if the OL is as good as we think/hope it will be.
but both points are well taken: that we have so much depth that some of them will almost certainly transfer; and also that we tend to have our share of injuries, so the No.3 or No.4 guy becoming the main back at some point this season is not out of the question. will just have to see how the season unfolds. I am sort of intrigued by Phillips and want to see what he can do, but I think Moulton is the heir apparent and it is his job to lose, basically.
Phillips just might have a Mikhei Sargent senior year, where he was quite effective, IIRC.
Phillips reached nearly 2K because he has exhibited very good contact balance. Those yards after contact and broken tackles sets him apart from Moultan IMO.
That's what they used to say about KJ, although they are completely different physically. Still a guy who's 5'7 -5'8" you'd think would be harder to get to his legs then a guy whose 6'2" and runs pretty upright like Johnson did....
McNeill shows great feet and hips to be maybe a more elusive runner but at the same time Moulton has proven power and durability.
And really Phillips is probably going to be in the mix big time. I think we will see early in the season Moulton getting the starts and maybe 50% of the carries and snaps with Phillips and McNeil sharing most of the other carries.
Does McNeil have 4 more years grandfathered into the the new NCAA 5 years to play 5 seasons?
Moulton is clearly #1. Rushed for 878 yards, 5.3 yards/carry. Missed two games so he could have hit a 1,000 yards. Has gotten bigger since last year. Has a quick burst and great cutback ability
Williams and McNeil are probably 2A and 2B. Will bring in depth and a different dimension.
I look for Phillips to be the short yardage option to replace the Gronowski Plowski. He got over 2,000 yards against LBers and DB's much smaller, that will reduce is broken tackles numbers.
Looking for Moulton to have a big year.
Williams and McNeil are probably 2A and 2B. Will bring in depth and a different dimension.
I look for Phillips to be the short yardage option to replace the Gronowski Plowski. He got over 2,000 yards against LBers and DB's much smaller, that will reduce is broken tackles numbers.
Looking for Moulton to have a big year.
it's a tough assignment matching up to kaleb's spectacular long distance jogging TDs but after rewatching some games over the last few months i have to say moulton is really good and better than most people (including me) think while mcneil did nothing more than what a decent freshman should. at this point no competition between them imo. that said excited to see if phillips brings some electricity to the table
There were 3 times Moulton was 1 v 1 on the 3rd level, and was tackled when he attempted to cut it back inside.
Whereas if he'd have bended it outside he would have housed it.
K2 was so good at that bend.
But it's a feel and experience thing, and something Kamari should be able to pick up as he evolves as a back.
Those alone would have made his numbers look different
McNeil just appears to have a separate gear & “wiggle” vs the other running backs on the roster.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
“much smaller LBs and DBs” is demonstrably false and laughable.
Moulton should also emerge as a leader.
This team's going to have to figure out who their leaders are, and learn how to win, fast
This team's going to have to figure out who their leaders are, and learn how to win, fast
If you think he'll get 2,000 yards in the BIG then you're full of ****! I wonder who doesn't know what he's talking about.
I never said Phillips would rush for 2,000 yards at Iowa. No one has said that grandpa. No one has said that, including me. Take a nap.
You claimed that Phillips competed against “much smaller” defenders last year. You are wrong you focking bonehead.
Direct me to a post where I or anyone else predicted that Phillips would rush for 2,000 yards in the Big10. If you can’t then STFU.
Wow, I must have struck a nerve. Three posts to respond. Grow up punk, you'll get old someday, especially since you spend your time in Mom and Dad's basement
IIRC, the Hawks started four different RBs the first four games of the season because of injuries and performance--Moulton, Washington, Williams, and Patterson--plus needed to play McNeil (who missed time with injury later in the year). Doll also was hurt. Fortunately, it wasn't like 2004 where the injuries were season-ending.
Of course not because he won't get the carries he did at his last school. I have no idea what he'll do, but he may very well be in the mix. A good problem to have right now for Lester....
You’re feeble and easily confused so I did you a favor and separated the posts for easier consumption …..kind of like how they spoon feed you (with a “good boy” pat on top of your head if you don’t spill any of the puréed veggies on your oversized bib). Now go change your diaper.
Moulton is the for sure starter for the season outside of an injury or a huge step back. McNeil is at best, third string, but has a lot of potential of moving up thanks to his athleticism. He had some flashes last year and I think he'll continue to improve the more chances he gets. Hope to see he gets some reps in the first three games if we run up the score.
I would agree with that, it always seemed he was never able to get to that second level consistently without getting tripped up. He's only a Jr this year, so if I don't see improvement in that respect I'd be open to someone else claiming the #1 spot.
He averaged 5.2 yards a carry.
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This will be my last post to you because ignore is the only way to deal with losers like you. Still walk 1-2 miles a day, enjoy traveling the world, spending time with my granddaughters and drive 9 hours to watch the Hawks. I was taught to respect my elders, you haven't been taught much of anything. Crawl back in your hole, you miserable excuse for a human being. Signing off.
So who "proved" that they should be getting the carries over him? At this point folks are speculating that they THINK someone else would do better. Evidently at this point the coaches (and many of the players based off interviews) feel differently.
Behind the best OL in the country. I’m not saying he’s bad, I think he’s an above average RB I just don’t think he’s earned RB1 without competing for it.
Yeah well blowhards lwho pretend to be above others by frequently posting personal info like world travel and how much money they made blah blah blah are usually complete phonies - like you. Invent whatever fantasy life you want. I’m not impressed.