Nolan Wells death on Horn Island..
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You are a stupid mother 17er. A 3000 lb vehicle will kill you just as dead as a bullet. You act like getting out of the way is always an option. Here’s a simple solution. Don’t commit crimes with your kid in tow and don’t up the ante by assaulting a police officer with a deadly weapon. She knew what was happening and she was trying to escape and the fact that she didn’t take the time to put her child in a car seat proves she was more concerned with escaping than protecting her child. She proved that further by using her child as a human shield. The driver of that car caused that officer to make a split second decision to protect himself, other officers and the general public.
At least be a better troll if you’re going to troll. What’s an officer to do? Let the criminal run him over?
Focus on getting out of the way. Only a stupid person thinks it's easier to get out of the way of a car WHILE SHOOTING. What, does the act of pulling the trigger grant a movement boost or something and im the only one that doesnt know it? Good lord you people.
And if he made the wrong split second decision? Just gloss it over? No need to train him up? No need to use the situation to train up other officers?
Let me introduce you to
2025 Mississippi Code 1972
Title 97 - Crimes (Chs. 1 - 49)
Chapter 1 - Conspiracy, Accessories and Attempts (§§ 97-1-1 - 97-1-9)
§ 97-1-7. Attempt to commit offense; punishment
(2) Every person who shall design and endeavor to commit an act which, if accomplished, would constitute an offense of murder under Section 97-3-19, but shall fail therein, or shall be prevented from committing the same, shall be guilty of attempted murder. Now... does the state of MS allow defense, by force, against attempted murder? What if they try to "get out of the way" and they get smashed between two vehicles, trip and fall and get ran over, or otherwise are severely maimed or killed when they fail to "get out of the way"
Now, with that said, what would have absolutely prevented the entire issue at hand?
I love when people think they're being smart, but actually just being stupid.
What if the car is going slow and is far away? What if he keeps shooting as it goes past? What if he doesnt manage to get his gun out until the car is past him but fires anyway?
Hmm, it sounds like reasonableness matters.
What would have prevented questioning the officers actions? Just sidestepping the car and letting the petty shoplifter get away rather than shoot an infant in the chest. That showed her, right?
I don’t argue with idiots. Waste of time. The only thing you’ve won today is a blue ribbon for douchebaggery
I quoted you actual statute... and you are coming back with "what if what if what if what if what if"..... and you are calling me stupid?
And you did fail completely to answer the last question. Couldn't help but notice that oversight.
It's apparent that you want to absolve the other parties, who were breaking multiple laws, of any culpability in this. I guess that's the actual "smart" thing to do.
You quoted the statute for attempted murder. Ive already said charge her. But you think her act excuses his? Uh, no sir, thats not how it works. I already quoted the applicable court standard way above. Actions must be reasonable. That a car is being driven in your direction is not an automatic pass for a shoot. Understand?
And I did answer your last question. Do you disagree that we wouldn't be arguing this if he chose to sidestep the car rather than shoot an infant to prevent a shoplifter from getting away???? Oh, you mean what if she hadn't been a POS? I already answered that. Maybe try reading the thread before replying next time.
I also imagine the officer does not feel like he made the right decision. Or God I hope so.
You agree that it meets the statute for attempted murder..... but then claim defense to that is "not how it works"? Say what? Read the law and not feelings. You are claim "reasonable". Well.... break out the absolute evidence showing it wasn't. Not "what if".
And in your pursuit of the "what ifs"... what if there was no absolute safe way to exit the path of the car?
You didn't answer the last question at all. You are sidestepping it. Understandably. What could they have done to prevent the entire issue? Perhaps not turn a misdemeanor into attempted murder?
You wanna know the beginning of what the evidence is that it's "reasonable"? Ben Crump has exited Senatobia and found a new shiny object. Same as what happened at Delta State.
Bruh there is one side of this that is consistent to emotional, and it’s not mine. Many have said we’re waiting for details. You are throwing around bias. You calling me emotional is some I know you are. It what am I nonsense.
When I was an investigator in LE. I had to go to too many autopsies. The one that keeps playing in my head over 10 years ago is a 3 month old baby. Worst thing I’ve seen in my life.
Which departments maintain strict internal policies about side stepping a vehicle? It’s not a oh let me dive out of the way in the movies type scenario.
First off, I wouldn’t bring my toddler to a shoplifting spree. Second, my toddler has never been put in the front seat. Always in a rear facing child safety seat. 3rd my friends would never put my child in a situation where they would potentially get shot at.
Because shooting the driver isn't self defense, as it does nothing of defensive value. It doesnt get you out of the way any faster. Its just "you tried to hurt me so I get to kill you."
If theres no point in trying to get out of the way, and shooting the driver reasonably may prevent a collision, then sure. But im struggling to see how that would ever happen. Shooting a driver may cause them to veer off course. But then there should be time to move....
Sure, but its irrelevant to whether it's a good shoot or bad shoot. Just as I dont get to punch a cop just because he was wrong about a ticket. But you see Your Honor, if he just hadn't written that ticket in error....
Ok
It’s shocking to me how much hatred there is among the black community. It’s unbelievable to read some of these threads on social media and quite frankly a little scary to know how so many people really feel.
Duh. You leap up and tap the hood using that to flip up and over as it passes under you.
Tennessee v. Garner says otherwise
Again with the "what ifs" to argue a situation you know none of the facts of. At the same time you are calling out others for not knowing the facts.
Wrong. Again. I understand why you are wanting to sidestep, but the correct answer prevents any shooting. At some point, to preserve order again in this country, people have to be blamed and shamed themselves again for causing chaos and disorder in society. And stop this "yea... they were committing multiple crimes... but did we have to be so aggressive with them?" And also again blame the lawbreaker for damages and injuries. The shift away from that in this country is absolutely idiotic.
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In the United States, approximately 7,000 to 7,500 pedestrians are killed each year after being struck by an automobile. [1, 2]
Murders during felony crimes: In the United States, about 25% of all homicides with known circumstances occur in conjunction with the commission of another felony (such as robbery, burglary, or rape). Because roughly 20,000 homicides occur annually in the U.S., this translates to approximately 5,000 deaths per yearin this category. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Well, actually!
OK. Doesnt mean its right. Common sense says otherwsie.
Im not speaking of any case in particular.
Youre not getting the point. Whether the cop made the right decision or not has nothing to do with what the perp did prior. I dont care if they ate the right breakfast that norning either, which has just as much significance as to whether the cop made the right call.
I've said charge her multiple times already. Are you advocating for some type of judge Dredd just shoot them on the scene type of "justice". It would explain your position.
I think you're having trouble with the idea that most of us are OK with the cop shooting at the car, if the car is driving at him.
The fact that you aren't, shows your brain damage.
So which of these is true?
1 This guy is an idiot.
2 This guy believes his feelings matter more than established (and known) law.
3 This guy is really Dawgstudent trolling everyone until he gets enough clicks for a 8' flatscreen - you know, for truely life size porn.
What else does common sense say in this situation? Don't turn a misdemeanor into attempted murder. That would have been the most common sense activity of this entire situation.
Unfortunately for your position... we are governed by laws. Not common sense. The excellent part of that is.... using common sense keeps you from being judged by the law at all.
Uh, it had everything to do with it actually. Again.. the actions of escalation is ignored. The new common theme in this country. "What they did was wrong... but did they have to be so harsh??" How about we begin with not falling astray of the law? How about we go back to some basic societal norms? How about we disgrace multiple time criminals instead of making excuses?
No what explains my position is the current legal framework.
5. Glfr's alter ego. Only an obvious profile sign in mix up will confirm.
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