Man fatally shot by ICE agents in Houston this week was misidentified as a target of an immigration operation.

lucas80 · Friday at 9:16 AM

Ooops. But, he "looked like", the target.
Just say he was brown.
For now it is unclear if any of the agents involved were wearing body cameras, and the official statement is that Lorenzo Salgado Araujo turned his van into a weapon and was attacking the agents. Where have we heard that before?
https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/09/us/lorenzo-salgado-araujo-houston-ice-shooting

BelemNole · Friday at 12:14 PM

Was he brown? Then no foul on the play!

Palmerhawk · Friday at 2:02 PM

This is a tragic episode.

alaskanseminole · Friday at 2:06 PM

Palmerhawk said:
This is a tragic episode.

100% Tragic all the way around.

If the reporting is accurate, this is exactly why professionalism & training (previous post), clear identification, body cameras, etc. fracking matter! Supporting immigration enforcement AND demanding high standards from those carrying it out are not mutually exclusive.

tarheelbybirth1 · Friday at 2:08 PM

lucas80 said:
Ooops. But, he "looked like", the target.
Just say he was brown.
For now it is unclear if any of the agents involved were wearing body cameras, and the official statement is that Lorenzo Salgado Araujo turned his van into a weapon and was attacking the agents. Where have we heard that before?
https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/09/us/lorenzo-salgado-araujo-houston-ice-shooting

They don't have the money for body cameras since Congress only gave them *checks notes* ... ummm... ~$75 billion dollars last year. And another ~$80 billion this year. So... you know... bake sales are needed.

alaskanseminole · Friday at 2:09 PM

tarheelbybirth1 said:
They don't have the money for body cameras since Congress only gave them *checks notes* ... ummm... ~$75 billion dollars last year. And another ~$80 billion this year. So... you know... bake sales are needed.

don't hit 'em w/ too many facts all at once.

tarheelbybirth1 · Friday at 2:12 PM

alaskanseminole said:
100% Tragic all the way around.

If the reporting is accurate, this is exactly why professionalism & training (previous post), clear identification, body cameras, etc. fracking matter! Supporting immigration enforcement AND demanding high standards from those carrying it out are not mutually exclusive.

I wouldn't say it's tragic on ICE's side. It's expected behavior, these days. They are already deep into the cover-up trying to get the other men in the van to self-deport before their testimony can be taken. Any ICE footage that exists will be unavailable. ICE is Gestapo-lite and they'll be coming to polling stations this fall.

alaskanseminole · Friday at 2:18 PM

tarheelbybirth1 said:
I wouldn't say it's tragic on ICE's side. It's expected behavior, these days. They are already deep into the cover-up trying to get the other men in the van to self-deport before their testimony can be taken. Any ICE footage that exists will be unavailable. ICE is Gestapo-lite and they'll be coming to polling stations this fall.

I mean "tragic" institutionally. I believe ICE has a legitimate mission but legitimacy comes with an obligation to operate professionally and transparently. If mistakes were made, investigate them, hold people accountable, and fix the dadgum issues. Americans should demand that standard from every law enforcement agency, no?

GesterHawk · Friday at 2:20 PM

tarheelbybirth1 said:
They don't have the money for body cameras since Congress only gave them *checks notes* ... ummm... ~$75 billion dollars last year. And another ~$80 billion this year. So... you know... bake sales are needed.

A bake sale would never work because none of them like brownies...

GesterHawk · Friday at 2:20 PM

alaskanseminole said:
I mean "tragic" institutionally. I believe ICE has a legitimate mission but legitimacy comes with an obligation to operate professionally and transparently. If mistakes were made, investigate them, hold people accountable, and fix the dadgum issues. Americans should demand that standard from every law enforcement agency, no?

tarheelbybirth1 · Friday at 2:31 PM

alaskanseminole said:
I mean "tragic" institutionally. I believe ICE has a legitimate mission but legitimacy comes with an obligation to operate professionally and transparently. If mistakes were made, investigate them, hold people accountable, and fix the dadgum issues. Americans should demand that standard from every law enforcement agency, no?

I agree... if ICE was any kind of normal agency. The problem is they don't make "mistakes". F*ck the facts.

This entire agency needs to razed to its foundations, the foundations need to be bulldozed then burned, every single employee investigated and/or fired, and the whole thing rebuilt from scratch. It is irredeemable in its current form.

Hotshoe · Friday at 2:35 PM

lucas80 said:
Ooops. But, he "looked like", the target.
Just say he was brown.
For now it is unclear if any of the agents involved were wearing body cameras, and the official statement is that Lorenzo Salgado Araujo turned his van into a weapon and was attacking the agents. Where have we heard that before?
https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/09/us/lorenzo-salgado-araujo-houston-ice-shooting

You should send flowers. **** happens. Of course, in your world, you have never once made a mistake. Kinda like Biden killing an entire innocent family in Afghanistan. Sit down you fool.

Hotshoe · Friday at 2:37 PM

alaskanseminole said:
100% Tragic all the way around.

If the reporting is accurate, this is exactly why professionalism & training (previous post), clear identification, body cameras, etc. fracking matter! Supporting immigration enforcement AND demanding high standards from those carrying it out are not mutually exclusive.

Lmao. Professionalism? We killed 750 of our own, by our own, prior to D-Day. Operation Tiger. Humans are not perfect. I guess you are. If you could actually live by 100% standards.

alaskanseminole · Friday at 2:39 PM

tarheelbybirth1 said:
I agree... if ICE was any kind of normal agency. The problem is they don't make "mistakes". F*ck the facts.

This entire agency needs to razed to its foundations, the foundations need to be bulldozed then burned, every single employee investigated and/or fired, and the whole thing rebuilt from scratch. It is irredeemable in its current form.

Don't go Huey-level emotional on me now, Tar.

several incidents doesn't automatically mean an entire agency is irredeemable.

We don't hear about the thousands of ICE encounters that end without force because, frankly, they aren't news. The ones that go horribly wrong (and yes, those have been frack'n horrible!) are and they 100% deserve scrutiny.

That's why I'm arguing for better accountability which starts at the top. If an agency can't or won't meet those standards then leadership need to change. I'd venture to say there are some good apples roaming around the agency.

Hydro2.0 · Friday at 2:40 PM

Our resident conservatards get all butthurt when “liberals” talk about political violence but these killings are just a shrug of the shoulders

Torbee · Friday at 2:40 PM

Abolish ICE

Torbee · Friday at 2:42 PM

alaskanseminole said:
several incidents doesn't automatically mean an entire agency is irredeemable.

Using calendar years and counting people reported as dying while in ICE custody or ICE detention:

2025: 33 deaths
2026: at least 21 deaths through July 6
Combined: at least 54 deaths

KFF’s review of ICE records counted 33 deaths in 2025. The National Immigration Project’s updated accounting listed 21 more in 2026 as of July 6.

alaskanseminole · Friday at 2:43 PM

Hotshoe said:
Lmao. Professionalism? We killed 750 of our own, by our own, prior to D-Day. Operation Tiger. Humans are not perfect. I guess you are. If you could actually live by 100% standards.

Wow...two replies from you in one day. I'm flattered. At least buy me dinner before you start following me around the board.

Anyway...where did I say humans are perfect? My point was the exact opposite. Humans make mistakes. That's why training, professionalism, body cameras, and accountability matter.

jimneffer · Friday at 2:46 PM

alaskanseminole said:
Wow...two replies from you in one day. I'm flattered. At least buy me dinner before you start following me around the board.

Anyway...where did I say humans are perfect? My point was the exact opposite. Humans make mistakes. That's why training, professionalism, body cameras, and accountability matter.

no...you're just supposed to say "nobody's perfect" and then use that as an excuse to not think or care about it any further

alaskanseminole · Friday at 2:47 PM

Torbee said:
Using calendar years and counting people reported as dying while in ICE custody or ICE detention:

2025: 33 deaths

2026: at least 21 deaths through July 6

Combined: at least 54 deaths

KFF’s review of ICE records counted 33 deaths in 2025. The National Immigration Project’s updated accounting listed 21 more in 2026 as of July 6.

Good lord! Hadn't seen those numbers...was mostly refering to tbe big headline case. I'd still want want to know for the 54 deaths out of how many detainees and under what circumstances? Like, were these homicides/suicides, overdoses, untreated medical conditions, natural causes, use-of-force incidents? Were they preventable?

Obviously, if an investigation revealed criminal misconduct, prosecute the heck out of it. NOt saying you're wrong, just asking for more info is all.

...sorry, you know me, I like to believe there's more good people than bad.

Hotshoe · Friday at 3:15 PM

tarheelbybirth1 said:
They don't have the money for body cameras since Congress only gave them *checks notes* ... ummm... ~$75 billion dollars last year. And another ~$80 billion this year. So... you know... bake sales are needed.

Yeppers. The vast majority of body cams are paid for locally. A simple fact.

Hotshoe · Friday at 3:17 PM

alaskanseminole said:
don't hit 'em w/ too many facts all at once.

No facts at all. The vast majority of body cams are paid for locally, and voted on locally. Keep showing us your ignorance. Just like street cameras. All voted on locally. Try harder, and actually study something, anything. Moron.

Hotshoe · Friday at 3:21 PM

tarheelbybirth1 said:
I wouldn't say it's tragic on ICE's side. It's expected behavior, these days. They are already deep into the cover-up trying to get the other men in the van to self-deport before their testimony can be taken. Any ICE footage that exists will be unavailable. ICE is Gestapo-lite and they'll be coming to polling stations this fall.

Absolutely, because they have killed hundreds of folks. Ffs. Try some honesty. I know it's hard for folks like you. Meanwhile, you support Walz, who pardoned a pedophile. Get lost.

alaskanseminole · Friday at 3:21 PM

Hotshoe said:
No facts at all. The vast majority of body cams are paid for locally, and voted on locally. Keep showing us your ignorance. Just like street cameras. All voted on locally. Try harder, and actually study something, anything. Moron.

I appreciate the insult, but I think you're arguing with someone else. Local police funding and ICE are two different conversations. Nobody said Congress votes on body cameras for every sheriff's office in America.

The question is why a federal agency with a YUGE budget still doesn't have universal body-camera coverage...especially if accountability and transparency is supposedly a priority.

I like your spunk, though, kid.

Ghee Buttersnaps 2 · Friday at 3:25 PM

Hotshoe said:
Absolutely, because they have killed hundreds of folks. Ffs. Try some honesty. I know it's hard for folks like you. Meanwhile, you support Walz, who pardoned a pedophile. Get lost.

ppffft. Just ONE pedophile!?! That's LOW T, bro! My boy Trump pardoned way more!

1. Andrew Taake – Pardoned for his January 6 offenses, then arrested in Texas on an outstanding charge of online solicitation of a minor stemming from a 2016 case.

2. David Paul Daniel – Received Trump's January 6 pardon while separately facing federal charges for production and possession of child sexual abuse material (CSAM) and allegations of sexually abusing a minor. The pardon did not cover those unrelated charges.

3. Andrew Paul Johnson – Pardoned for his January 6 offense, later convicted of multiple counts of child molestation and other child sex crimes, receiving a life sentence. The abuse allegations were unrelated to January 6.

4. John Banuelos – A January 6 defendant later sought on charges including aggravated sexual assault in an unrelated case.

5. A January 6 defendant identified in court records as Colton – Pardoned for January 6-related conduct but later convicted of receiving child pornography.

alaskanseminole · Friday at 3:30 PM

Ghee Buttersnaps 2 said:
ppffft. Just ONE pedophile!?! That's LOW T, bro! My boy Trump pardoned way more!

1. Andrew Taake – Pardoned for his January 6 offenses, then arrested in Texas on an outstanding charge of online solicitation of a minor stemming from a 2016 case.

2. David Paul Daniel – Received Trump's January 6 pardon while separately facing federal charges for production and possession of child sexual abuse material (CSAM) and allegations of sexually abusing a minor. The pardon did not cover those unrelated charges.

3. Andrew Paul Johnson – Pardoned for his January 6 offense, later convicted of multiple counts of child molestation and other child sex crimes, receiving a life sentence. The abuse allegations were unrelated to January 6.

4. John Banuelos – A January 6 defendant later sought on charges including aggravated sexual assault in an unrelated case.

5. A January 6 defendant identified in court records as Colton – Pardoned for January 6-related conduct but later convicted of receiving child pornography.

BelemNole · Friday at 3:50 PM

Hotshoe said:
You should send flowers. **** happens. Of course, in your world, you have never once made a mistake. Kinda like Biden killing an entire innocent family in Afghanistan. Sit down you fool.

I'm sure that if someone in your family was killed by the govt you'd just shrug and say 'shi.t happens' and move on.
You are a dipshi.t

Hydro2.0 · Friday at 4:08 PM

BelemNole said:
I'm sure that if someone in your family was killed by the govt you'd just shrug and say 'shi.t happens' and move on.
You are a dipshi.t

That’s a fact. Dudes a literal retard

hopefultiger13 · Friday at 4:09 PM

Hotshoe said:
You should send flowers. **** happens. Of course, in your world, you have never once made a mistake. Kinda like Biden killing an entire innocent family in Afghanistan. Sit down you fool.

Shiit DOES happen. Law Enforcement makes mistakes just like everyone else. Unfortunately, unlike most of us, when they make mistakes, people can and do die. What I DO expect is for them to own their own mistakes, and learn from them. I think Donald Trump and his ilk (Roger Stone) have confused you Alpha Guys. Remember when Alpha Guys took credit where credit was due and took the blame when things didn't go right? Remember when responsibility was a thing you guys cared about? Enter Stone and his "Never say you are sorry or admit fault, deny everything." motto. At some point a guy with a Nixon Tramp Stamp became the hero of the Alphas.

I generally support law enforcement and side with them until there's good reason not to. ICE (specifically their leadership) is showing us why that faith may be misplaced.

RagnarLothbrok · Friday at 4:11 PM

GesterHawk said:
A bake sale would never work because none of them like brownies...

RagnarLothbrok · Friday at 4:25 PM

Hotshoe said:
No facts at all. The vast majority of body cams are paid for locally, and voted on locally. Keep showing us your ignorance. Just like street cameras. All voted on locally. Try harder, and actually study something, anything. Moron.

I see Hothead is in his usual rare form.

You challenging anyone to “try harder” or “actually study something, anything” is the zenith of lacking self awareness. You remember when your dumbazz tried to claim Trump couldn’t touch his revocable trust because it was managed by Citigroup? Lol. Pepperidge Farm remembers. Odd, how you ran from that conversation like a little b*tch after getting absolutely cooked.

You are the poster child for the Dunning Kruger Effect. Yes, you are literally too stupid to understand just how stupid you are.

FYI— @alaskanseminole is one of the most thoughtful, intelligent, respectful, level-headed posters on this board. You, of all people, have no business ever referring to him as a moron. So do yourself a favor and shut your little c0cksucker before you continue to embarrass yourself this badly.

Oh, and he served his country. How about you, Internet Tough Guy?

GesterHawk · Friday at 4:25 PM

RagnarLothbrok said:

Wow, somewhat biting racial humor is getting the Dad Joke treatment now. Crazy times ...

Wobmam Rulez! · Friday at 4:26 PM

Hotshoe said:
You should send flowers. **** happens. Of course, in your world, you have never once made a mistake. Kinda like Biden killing an entire innocent family in Afghanistan. Sit down you fool.

Is Biden now considered a superman who flew to Afghanistan, killed a family and flew back to DC all in a day? Damn, I must have
missed that one.

A "mistake" that takes someone's life should never happen or be acceptable, no matter the type of employment or profession.

GesterHawk · Friday at 4:37 PM

Wobmam Rulez! said:
Is Biden now considered a superman who flew to Afghanistan, killed a family and flew back to DC all in a day? Damn, I must have
missed that one.

A "mistake" that takes someone's life should never happen or be acceptable, no matter the type of employment or profession.

Sounds more like this dude:

Remember that it only took the Red Hats like 4 seasons to realize this entire show was making fun of them.

firegiver · Friday at 4:41 PM

alaskanseminole said:
I mean "tragic" institutionally. I believe ICE has a legitimate mission but legitimacy comes with an obligation to operate professionally and transparently. If mistakes were made, investigate them, hold people accountable, and fix the dadgum issues. Americans should demand that standard from every law enforcement agency, no?

exactly
But there are people who still say Prettie (sp?) deserved what he got so... Looking past politics, the people have the duty to hold their government accountable.

alaskanseminole · Friday at 4:58 PM

RagnarLothbrok said:
I see Hothead is in his usual rare form.

You challenging anyone to “try harder” or “actually study something, anything” is the zenith of lacking self awareness. You remember when your dumbazz tried to claim Trump couldn’t touch his revocable trust because it was managed by Citigroup? Lol. Pepperidge Farm remembers. Odd, how you ran from that conversation like a little b*tch after getting absolutely cooked.

You are the poster child for the Dunning Kruger Effect. Yes, you are literally too stupid to understand just how stupid you are.

FYI— @alaskanseminole is one of the most thoughtful, intelligent, respectful, level-headed posters on this board. You, of all people, have no business ever referring to him as a moron. So do yourself a favor and shut your little c0cksucker before you continue to embarrass yourself this badly.

Oh, and he served his country. How about you, Internet Tough Guy?

You're too kind. Thanks, Rags.

McLovin32 · Friday at 5:20 PM

BelemNole said:
Was he brown? Then no foul on the play!

tarheelbybirth1 · Friday at 6:04 PM

alaskanseminole said:
Don't go Huey-level emotional on me now, Tar. several incidents doesn't automatically mean an entire agency is irredeemable.

We don't hear about the thousands of ICE encounters that end without force because, frankly, they aren't news. The ones that go horribly wrong (and yes, those have been frack'n horrible!) are and they 100% deserve scrutiny.

That's why I'm arguing for better accountability which starts at the top. If an agency can't or won't meet those standards then leadership need to change. I'd venture to say there are some good apples roaming around the agency.

They have a “dying problem” in their detention centers. They drag US citizens from their homes and their cars because they’re brown. They have shot multiple people and claim, while refusing to provide ANY evidence, that people “weaponized their vehicle” and “drove at an ICE agent” despite video showing those are lies. They flatly refuse to cooperate with local agencies to investigate their “mistakes” and bury the evidence. They claim they can’t wear body cams due to cost when they are the highest funded federal law enforcement agency. If there are good ICE agents, THEY should be in full-throated protest of these excesses. There are no “good apples” when all of them are complicit. Fire them all and start from scratch.

TigerGrowls · Friday at 8:18 PM

This thread sums up libs nicely. Very short on any facts but full of feelings and BS.

Deceased person was a Mexican national.
Deceased person was evading arrest.
Deceased person attempted to run over ICE agent and was subsequently fatally shot.

Nuff said numb nutz.

On July 7, 2026, at approximately 6:50 AM CT, ICE law enforcement attempted to conduct a vehicle stop as part of a targeted enforcement operation to arrest an illegal alien. The driver of the vehicle, Lorenzo Salgado Araujo—an illegal alien from Mexico—attempted to evade arrest. From information we are receiving, he rammed an ICE law enforcement vehicle, refused to follow multiple verbal commands, and weaponized his vehicle in an attempt to run over an ICE law enforcement officer resulting in our officer firing his weapon in self-defense.

The driver was struck, and emergency services were immediately contacted. The driver was transported to the hospital where he passed away from his injuries. DHS-OIG is leading an investigation into the agent-involved shooting. FBI Houston is leading an investigation into the potential assault on a federal law enforcement officer. This is a developing situation, and we will update the public when more information is available.

TigerGrowls · Friday at 8:26 PM

None of you commie libs started a thread for this American citizen killed by an illegal. Disgraceful. Please renounce your US citizenship and ask for asylum in Mexico.

Man fatally shot by ICE agents in Houston this week was misidentified as a target of an immigration operation.

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