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Reportedly, President Trump had a nice chit chat with the Head of FIFA about an hour before the decision was made to overturn the Red Card. Make of it what you will, but I say, "Thanks, Mr. President"!!
You gotta answer when a Fifa Peace Prize winner calls.
 
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The yellow on Rice and the penalty on Kane are just stupid. They go to kick the ball and someone from the blindside sticks themselves in and somehow it’s their fault. How are they suppose to know an opponent is coming from behind?
 
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The studs on the leg look very similar. In fact that one wasn't nearly as dangerous as ours was. Both reds.
That tackle attempt was extremely dangerous. The Mexican player is lucky his leg was up in the air when contact was made. If his leg is planted, that a leg breaker tackle.
 

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The studs on the leg look very similar. In fact that one wasn't nearly as dangerous as ours was. Both reds.
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One dude is slide tackling and looking directly at the opposing player, hits a guy’s legs 18” off the ground. The other is totally upright and doesn’t even see where his off foot is planting, and his heel is literally on the ground while the ball of foot hits other player’s ankle.

You are again trying way too hard.
 

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One dude is slide tackling and looking directly at the opposing player, hits a guy’s legs 18” off the ground. The other is totally upright and doesn’t even see where his off foot is planting, and his heel is literally on the ground while the ball of foot hits other player’s ankle.

You are again trying way too hard.
Show the other angle of the American that really shows what he did. You are trying way too hard.
 

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You're still defending the Venezuelan VAR bogus red card? Even now. Your hatred of the World Cup and US Soccer is showing.

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Oh BS. I have nothing against American international soccer, there are no Liverpool players to get hurt in that team. So far so good this tournament, only one left I believe and nobody hurt so far. I'll admit it has been entertaining seeing people who almost never watch soccer and obviously know little about it lecture about the rules.
 

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That tackle attempt was extremely dangerous. The Mexican player is lucky his leg was up in the air when contact was made. If his leg is planted, that a leg breaker tackle.
EXACTLY!!!!! That's why what the American did was even more dangerous, intentional or not. The Bosnian's leg was planted and the ankle was bent a very unnatural angle as a result of it. He was extremely fortunate not to have been seriously injured.
 
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I’m not talking about just FIFA here.

The ref on the field decided “incidental contact / no card”.

Then VAR ref overrules the guy on the field, and says “red card / suspension”.

Then FIFA overrules the overruling, and suspends the suspension (that sentence hurt my brain to type, but it’s accurate).

The overall result here - 17ing nobody seems to really know what the rules are, not even the folks in charge of enforcing them.

That’s terrible optics, and a huge criticism of international soccer in general here…..not just FIFA.
One point of order here I missed. That's not how VAR works in the World Cup. The ref has the final say. That's why he is called over to the monitor.
 

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One point of order here I missed. That's not how VAR works in the World Cup. The ref has the final say. That's why he is called over to the monitor.

He does have the final say, but once that VAR room puts him on the spot to review a call, I suspect it’s very hard to not make the call as they’re seeing it.
 
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Belgium is exploring options.
I'm admittingly not a soccer fan, but I think this is a mistake. In sports that I participated and coached in, this sort of thing can become a distraction. Let the powers that be know you think it sux, but then get your team ready to play. It is highly doubtful that they will be changing this decision. That being said, hopefully they wallow in it and it consumes them to a point that it does become an advantage for us.

Just to add so that I feel like I've completely participated in this thread, I understand offsides and the extra time, flopping sux
 

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I think the red card on England (and the USA) was BS. Redcard should be about intent in my opinion. Neither of those plays were malicious. Hell I thought the UK red was a clean play until they showed the replay and the only reason his cleats were showing is because he rolled on top of the ball which elevated his leg.
 

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Show the other angle of the American that really shows what he did. You are trying way too hard.
Man, you simply just suck at watching and understanding sports in general.

I mean, I shouldn’t be surprised. Forgot I was talking to the same dude who thought Blake Shapen was trying to throw a 35 yard TD pass at the end of the Florida game on the pass that got picked….on a ball that was 8 feet off the ground when it crossed the line of scrimmage.
 
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L4Dawg

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I think the red card on England (and the USA) was BS. Redcard should be about intent in my opinion. Neither of those plays were malicious. Hell I thought the UK red was a clean play until they showed the replay and the only reason his cleats were showing is because he rolled on top of the ball which elevated his leg.
But it isn't just about intent. Most reds are accidental plays. In the old days if either of those had got the ball first, and I think at least one of them did if I remember correctly, it wouldn't have even been a foul. The reason they are fouls and reds now is that that kind of play results in some very serious injuries. They don't want players putting themselves into situations where they do that even accidentally. It's almost exactly the same mindset as targeting in our football. I don't necessarily agree with the rules, ours or theirs, but they are what they are.
 

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Man, you simply just suck at watching and understanding sports in general.

I mean, I shouldn’t be surprised. Forgot I was talking to the same dude who thought Blake Shapen was trying to throw a 35 yard TD pass at the end of the Florida game on the pass that got picked….on a ball that was 8 feet off the ground when it crossed the line of scrimmage.
I didn't think you would want to do that.
 

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One point of order here I missed. That's not how VAR works in the World Cup. The ref has the final say. That's why he is called over to the monitor.
Oh come on. Have you EVER seen a ref get called over to check the monitor and not go along with the VAR officials. It's a waste of time. No referee is going to get into what amounts to a public argument with the VAR officials over a call. Can you imagine the uproar and accusations he'd have to deal with after that?
 

patdog

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I think the red card on England (and the USA) was BS. Redcard should be about intent in my opinion. Neither of those plays were malicious. Hell I thought the UK red was a clean play until they showed the replay and the only reason his cleats were showing is because he rolled on top of the ball which elevated his leg.
We can debate the USA red card all day. Even top referees disagree on that one. The one on Quanseh is as clear cut as it gets. His foot went over the ball because he came in high. If that's not a red card virtually nothing is.
 
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Rumor: The VAR referee was Juan Ernesto Soto Arevalo from Venezuela. He is the one that adamantly called for the red card. Jerome Brisard from France was the assistant VAR referee and went to FIFA and said that there was bias in the decision.

There is no mechanism to reverse a red card yet FIFA did so. This is unprecedented.
They said last night that it has been done before in qualifying rounds but not the World Cup. I am guessing either there is a way or they just did it. They also said that Belgium was given an opportunity to appeal.
 

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But it isn't just about intent. Most reds are accidental plays. In the old days if either of those had got the ball first, and I think at least one of them did if I remember correctly, it wouldn't have even been a foul. The reason they are fouls and reds now is that that kind of play results in some very serious injuries. They don't want players putting themselves into situations where they do that even accidentally. It's almost exactly the same mindset as targeting in our football. I don't necessarily agree with the rules, ours or theirs, but they are what they are.
My god man, you’ve said the same 17’n thing 10 different times, 8 different ways. We’re real 17’n clear on your position.

It’s not a requirement that you respond to every single poster who has a different opinion as if they slapped your mother.
 
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You kind of have to think it hurt both teams a little. Belgium gamed planned and practice as if he wasn't playing and the day before the match he is playing. Same thing for the US. They also planned to play without him. It is easier on the US.
 

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My god man, you’ve said the same 17’n thing 10 different times, 8 different ways. We’re real 17’n clear on your position.

It’s not a requirement that you respond to every single poster who has a different opinion as if they slapped your mother.
Well, it's been said the other way over and over as well. Pot meet kettle
 

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We can debate the USA red card all day. Even top referees disagree on that one. The one on Quanseh is as clear cut as it gets. His foot went over the ball because he came in high. If that's not a red card virtually nothing is.
Agree. I think Quanseh did that at least once when he was at Liverpool. I seem to remember one. There are some rumblings we may be about to buy him back. Evidently there is a clause in his contract that allows it for a set non-negotiable fee.
 

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Oh come on. Have you EVER seen a ref get called over to check the monitor and not go along with the VAR officials. It's a waste of time. No referee is going to get into what amounts to a public argument with the VAR officials over a call. Can you imagine the uproar and accusations he'd have to deal with after that?
Yes. Not in this World Cup though. It is exceedingly rare for sure.
 

patdog

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Agree. I think Quanseh did that at least once when he was at Liverpool. I seem to remember one. There are some rumblings we may be about to buy him back. Evidently there is a clause in his contract that allows it for a set non-negotiable fee.
Liverpool should have never let him go. Center back was a problem (among many others) last season. It's a miracle they qualified for Champions League. It'll be interesting to see what they do with transfers and how the new coach does.
 

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EXACTLY!!!!! That's why what the American did was even more dangerous, intentional or not. The Bosnian's leg was planted and the ankle was bent a very unnatural angle as a result of it. He was extremely fortunate not to have been seriously injured.
Under FIFA's own protocols, the play should not have been flagged by the VAR, who called for the review on the monitor following a SLOW-MOTION REPLAY of the incident. The VAR is not allowed to call for a review based on slow-motion replay. That's the rule. This guy violated the rule. The ref didn't call anything on the field. It should have not been a red card. End of story.
 
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Liverpool should have never let him go. Center back was a problem (among many others) last season. It's a miracle they qualified for Champions League. It'll be interesting to see what they do with transfers and how the new coach does.
Yep, should have kept him for sure, especially given the situation. Slot evidently didn't rate him.
 
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