Good, but I'm not sure that most of Texas falls into Greater Appalachia.I like this map:
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Good, but I'm not sure that most of Texas falls into Greater Appalachia.I like this map:
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I've not figured out what the attraction for South Carolina is. Away from the coastline, it's pretty much like any other Southern state, or actually all other states outside large cities.Here you go…
Glad for them. I have had family members and a friend that have move out of Denver due to disgust with the liberal voting and with the very high crime. Both had their houses broke into. The family members lived in a very affluent neighborhood. The friend lived in what used to be a nice neighborhood.Well, on the last trip we flew into Denver but went straight to a ranch on the WY border. We didn't spend anytime in any of the front range metro. My Denver family has not expressed to me concerns similar to yours and they grew up in our conservative south and raised three girls in the Cherry Creek area. In any event, I don't think CO's legal pot culture is near the problem as the crack/meth gang banger ******** we endure here in the south.
I live in Denver (for over 20 years), and you're correct. Colorado is doing just fine, other than running out of water. There's outmigration (although pretty light) due to cost of living. If anyone thinks that people are leaving because of politics in Denver, that just means they're not familiar with the concept of suburbs. JeffCo, Douglas and Weld Counties are incredibly conservative.Probably the cost of living more than anything political. Nobody is leaving Colorado because it sucks, that's not how this works.
Same for California, Oregon, Washington, Virginia and other well-known vibrant economy states that might have lost population.
This is such a patently ridiculous thing to say. I doubt you've spent a moment in Colorado. My neighbors are probably 1/3 republican, democrat and other and I live in the city.If you have been there lately, I don't see how you could be surprised that the population is declining. It is overrun with liberals and potheads. I saw a survey that said that that was the reason so many people were leaving.
This is such a patently ridiculous thing to say. I doubt you've spent a moment in Colorado. My neighbors are probably 1/3 republican, democrat and other and I live in the city.
There are much tougher rednecks all over the West Slope than anybody you've got in your family, I guarantee it. Springs, Greeley, Grand Junction, Glenwood, Montrose, Gunnison are all dark red.
I'm sorry you had to smell weed on your ride from the airport to the Aurora Convention
Also, receipts. What neighborhood(s)?Glad for them. I have had family members and a friend that have move out of Denver due to disgust with the liberal voting and with the very high crime. Both had their houses broke into. The family members lived in a very affluent neighborhood. The friend lived in what used to be a nice neighborhood.
I am convinced, that many Mississippians who do leave but then ultimately move back in order to be by “mumuh n deddy” need to trash the states they left in order to make themselves feel better.Also, receipts. What neighborhood(s)?
My son goes to State because it was such a bargain and (probably) bc of me! We're still invested in the state and it gets harder every year. He'll probably transfer to Mines or somewhere to finish an engineering degree because of the broader access to job markets, although he really loves his friends at school. Starkville, not so much.I am convinced, that many Mississippians who do leave but then ultimately move back in order to be by “mumuh n deddy” need to trash the states they left in order to make themselves feel better.
MS is #50 for a reason. I love it because it’s home. I see no reason for anybody else to love it, or grow to love it. To date the only significant out of state group to move in has been Louisianans to the Coast and up to Central MS, in order to have land. And they sure do still consider themselves Louisiana natives.
I've spent some time in Columbia (cousins live there) and oddly enough, it seems like what Jackson might have been with better politics and policy starting in 80's before white flight gutted the Bold New City. Similar demographics, similar topography, same small downtown if you look back at that era. Oh, and both hot as blue blazes.I've not figured out what the attraction for South Carolina is. Away from the coastline, it's pretty much like any other Southern state, or actually all other states outside large cities.
Very good comparison. I think Columbia thrived basically because USC is there. If maybe MSU was in the Jackson Metro, the decline wouldn’t have been as steep. Way too late for that now as it’s not changing. There’s probably no saving Jackson, no redeemable qualities. It’ll limp on as the rural population moves there for jobs, but as that dries up, so will the Metro.I've spent some time in Columbia (cousins live there) and oddly enough, it seems like what Jackson might have been with better politics and policy starting in 80's before white flight gutted the Bold New City. Similar demographics, similar topography, same small downtown if you look back at that era. Oh, and both hot as blue blazes.
It had nothing to do with smelling weed, but keep making ridiculous statements.This is such a patently ridiculous thing to say. I doubt you've spent a moment in Colorado. My neighbors are probably 1/3 republican, democrat and other and I live in the city.
There are much tougher rednecks all over the West Slope than anybody you've got in your family, I guarantee it. Springs, Greeley, Grand Junction, Glenwood, Montrose, Gunnison are all dark red.
I'm sorry you had to smell weed on your ride from the airport to the Aurora Convention Center.
I live in Denver (for over 20 years), and you're correct. Colorado is doing just fine, other than running out of water. There's outmigration (although pretty light) due to cost of living. If anyone thinks that people are leaving because of politics in Denver, that just means they're not familiar with the concept of suburbs. JeffCo, Douglas and Weld Counties are incredibly conservative.
It's funny to me that people who live in a state notorious for a lack of jobs/industry/infrastructure look askance at a state that has worked for 40 years to diversify its economy and capitalize on its natural strengths.
If you don't live in a state, it would be hard to have an objective opinion. Of course, that's just my opinion.
People aren't claiming people leave because they don't have enough republican neighbors. They are claiming they leave because of democrat policies. Colorado is still great because as you said, they spent decades doing things to capitalize on their benefits before electing politicians not interested in that. And it's going to continue to be pretty great for the ones that can bear the cost of bad governance. And I'm not sure it's even that bad comparatively. Even after per capita state and local spending increasing 30%+ over inflation over the past two decades, it's still not a crazy spending state (at least in comparison to other states). And from what I understand while TABOR doesn't necessarily protect taxpayers fully, it does push more revenue collection to fees that are generally tied to the people actually imposing the burden or receiving the benefit of whatever the fee is related to, even if it pushes the limit to an extent.This is such a patently ridiculous thing to say. I doubt you've spent a moment in Colorado. My neighbors are probably 1/3 republican, democrat and other and I live in the city.
There are much tougher rednecks all over the West Slope than anybody you've got in your family, I guarantee it. Springs, Greeley, Grand Junction, Glenwood, Montrose, Gunnison are all dark red.
I'm sorry you had to smell weed on your ride from the airport to the Aurora Convention Center.
You're slicing pretty thin with those first two sentences. Nevertheless, it's not that bad. The biggest issue that Denver has is the continued kicking the can of overly high commercial property tax vis a vis the residential property tax. They've been kicking the can on that for over a decade, but eventually they'll have to lower the commercial to keep business in the city.People aren't claiming people leave because they don't have enough republican neighbors. They are claiming they leave because of democrat policies. Colorado is still great because as you said, they spent decades doing things to capitalize on their benefits before electing politicians not interested in that. And it's going to continue to be pretty great for the ones that can bear the cost of bad governance. And I'm not sure it's even that bad comparatively. Even after per capita state and local spending increasing 30%+ over inflation over the past two decades, it's still not a crazy spending state (at least in comparison to other states). And from what I understand while TABOR doesn't necessarily protect taxpayers fully, it does push more revenue collection to fees that are generally tied to the people actually imposing the burden or receiving the benefit of whatever the fee is related to, even if it pushes the limit to an extent.
Not at all. Most people are spending their time around people that are like them. For sane people, politics doesn't really play into that, although obviously politics are likely to be weakly to strongly correlated to a lot of things that do matter, so most people are going to sort into groups of people with more or less compatible political views. People don't care about a lot of people outside of their social group having opposite political views until it shows up in things like higher taxes, more crime, bad public schools, thirteen different approvals to do a house addition, etc. And even that only matters to the extent you aren't affluent enough to buy your way out of most problems except for the taxes and those aren't a big burden on you because of your affluence.You're slicing pretty thin with those first two sentences.
Nevertheless, it's not that bad. The biggest issue that Denver has is the continued kicking the can of overly high commercial property tax vis a vis the residential property tax. They've been kicking the can on that for over a decade, but eventually they'll have to lower the commercial to keep business in the city.
Also, looking further into the "net outmigration" graphic, it looks like total net loss in Colorado in 2025 was 12,000. That's a rounding error, not a meaningful statistic.