If Kentucky misses on Kusturica.

CameronCat22

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I gotcha. I just don’t feel like either one was “lying”. I think they’re the ones being fed BS by the agents and they haven’t learned yet to not rush out and report it. Still on them but I don’t think they’re intentionally trying to mislead.
That’s be lying is what you do, so you will always defend lies. The truth doesn’t matter to you. That’s what makes you such a joke.
 
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kyjeff1

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The Ohio State game was a true head scratcher but the UGA was just a complete hose job where they were allowed to beat the **** out of the players
Yeah, but it shouldn't have been close enough to matter. When you're good enough to win at Gonzaga, beat Florida, beat duke and win at Tennessee, who is extremely physical, you can't lose to Mike White and Georgia. Just yuck.
 
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HipTer

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I think Mark's system works, 24/25 proved it, but that team got too banged up at key positions. Even then though, they lost games they should have easily won. The Ohio State game is still a head scratcher to me.

Pope needs to find a way to sustain success. You can't beat duke, then get drubbed by Ohio State and Alabama multiple times and you can't beat Florida, then lose to UGA.
You’re going to have some losses like that regardless, but I agree with your point. There’s a dichotomy there that I might be able to guess at broadly, but not close enough to diagnose specifically.

I get this feeling (probably perception bias . . . but) that the 24-25 team and Pope’s teams in general have played sort of “surgically” and methodically but not with much hyperness – or energy, passion . . . I’m kind of searching for the best word. If that’s the case, I think that approach would work well on the offensive side but hurt the defensive side. Just my rambling attempt to put my finger on something.
 

seccats04

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The Ohio State game was a true head scratcher but the UGA was just a complete hose job where they were allowed to beat the **** out of the players
Then fight back. Pope's teams are soft as Charmin. He's a reflection of it as referenced by him constantly subbing players out after 4 minutes. And they don't even play hard on defense so why are they so tired (in his mind)?
 

Ash Williams

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I get what you're saying, but it's really hard to change the mind of a HS kid. Once he's made up his mind, that's where he's going and with this kid being from a different country, he most likely oniws very little about UK and even less about Pope. I highly doubt he turned his nose up at UK because Pope is a goober. If that was what he was looking at, he damn sure wouldn't choose Cronin over… ..anyone.

Heck, I'm a Ford guy, when I buy a truck, I don't even consider anything else. I think Rams and GMC's look great, but I wouldn't buy either of the others even if they were $20k cheaper for the same specs. I like what I like.

Heck, you could give me a toyota for free and I'd say no. Well, I might take it, then trade it in the next day with 0 miles on it.
You'd take a Ford F150 over a free Tundra?

Well it all makes sense now.

You're an imbecile.
 

KyKevin

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6 straight games and coming back from 14 points against Michigan State in the first game was not a fluke. Johnny Juzang played outstanding.





JJ was a damn good player, and could take over a game.

Cronin is a damn good coach, but a little Puke of a guy, kind of like Kelsey 🤢
 

Beatle Bum

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Cowgirl has gone on record by saying a S16 is good enough season to keep pope.
Cal, then, should definitely have been fired before he jumped ship and should now be on the hot seat at Arky. Right? He has not demonstrated the ability to advance past the S16 since the ‘18-19 season.
 

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Not really, he didn't sub like that his first season here.
Yes he did. He just got lucky a few times and ended up winning a game or two. Those were all seasoned pre coached players. Yet they didn't play defense, didn't rebound and were not in condition.

Pope is not a good basketball coach. He doesn't nothing well as a head coach. Last year's team was far more talented than they played. They were coached down. And his teams quit.
 

UKBB4Ever

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I think Mark's system works, 24/25 proved it, but that team got too banged up at key positions. Even then though, they lost games they should have easily won. The Ohio State game is still a head scratcher to me.

Pope needs to find a way to sustain success. You can't beat duke, then get drubbed by Ohio State and Alabama multiple times and you can't beat Florida, then lose to UGA.
What is Pope's system? Is it that mysterious left handed offense?
 

Starrcade

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Look at the usual suspects that want us to lose and Pope get fired just so they can say "I was right" and dance around like dorks.

2funny

a woman in a black dress is dancing in front of a crowd at a party
 
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Los Gatos

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If that’s the case send him to LA for a week. He will be offering to pay UK to come here.
Serious question, have you ever even been to LA? Have you lived there? Do you have any idea what the temperature is likely to be in Feb when it's below freezing in Lexington?

Now, I live in northern CA and have been to LA many times. No way I would want to live there however, approximately 12.5 million people do.
 

Beatle Bum

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If UK got him for 2 years, the lineup next year could be exciting. There is a lot of talent that could return with Hampton and other recruits? Possibilities …

And a kid who is kind of a Swiss Army knife at an early age could be a real contributor off the bench come SEC play without having the pressure of carrying the star load now.
 
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Evidently UK is offering 2 years, $12-14 million total for the Serbian sensation. If we miss, let's pivot and use that money for Spears and/or Rosser instead. Bring back Diallo, Wilkins, Kam, and one of either McBride or N'Diaye (I'll go with McBride here), Potter, Mason Williams, Noah, Morton, and Hawthorne. Obviously you add Hampton.

Kusturica would have made $6-7 million/year plus we need to factor in the $3.5-4 that Moreno is getting paid (which comes off the books if he jumps to the league). Plus factor in whatever Kepnang/N'Diaye are making, and you're looking at $12-14 million to bring in Hampton, two portal bigs, Spears, and a raise for your returners. Even if you lose one of Hawthorne/Kam due to a potential logjam at the wing positions, you still have solid depth and even more finances to add more pieces.

I think Spears wants to play the 4. Fine. Then you take the money that would have gone to Rosser and spend it on a high-level portal big man and a decent backup.

C - Portal - Portal - Potter
F - Spears - McBride - K. Williams
F - K. Williams - Hawthorne - Noah
G - Wilkins - Hampton - Noah
G - Diallo - M. Williams - Morton

That's doable, and would be Pope's most talented roster.
15 losses!!
 

Skyguyb27

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Serious question, have you ever even been to LA? Have you lived there? Do you have any idea what the temperature is likely to be in Feb when it's below freezing in Lexington?

Now, I live in northern CA and have been to LA many times. No way I would want to live there however, approximately 12.5 million people do.
Yep, there all the time for work.

Sidenote: try Fairbanks Alaska in the winter.
 

kyjeff1

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You’re going to have some losses like that regardless, but I agree with your point. There’s a dichotomy there that I might be able to guess at broadly, but not close enough to diagnose specifically.

I get this feeling (probably perception bias . . . but) that the 24-25 team and Pope’s teams in general have played sort of “surgically” and methodically but not with much hyperness – or energy, passion . . . I’m kind of searching for the best word. If that’s the case, I think that approach would work well on the offensive side but hurt the defensive side. Just my rambling attempt to put my finger on something.
Oh yeah, you're going to get upset, but when you look at the programs that are good each year, it doesn't happen very often to them. It's happening way too often here and it happened way too often at the back end of Cal's tenure. But unlike Cal, Pope isn’t losing to mid majors.

And yes, Pope's system is more surgical, it's a brand most mid majors use, but I credit Pope for trying to add physicality to it.
 
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DKersey

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Kursturika. We still have a chance for this dude and I vacillate I want him and then I don't want him now I want him again. With him could lead to number nine. And I'm reading on here that some of you are saying another 15 loss season and the writing is on the wall plain as day your problem is not with the team it's with the coach and I'm going to tell you I think Mark Pope is a good basketball coach. yep he needs some help in recruiting but as far as the x's and o's he's good
 

kyjeff1

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Yes he did. He just got lucky a few times and ended up winning a game or two. Those were all seasoned pre coached players. Yet they didn't play defense, didn't rebound and were not in condition.

Pope is not a good basketball coach. He doesn't nothing well as a head coach. Last year's team was far more talented than they played. They were coached down. And his teams quit.

What is Pope's system? Is it that mysterious left handed offense?
Jeez man, go find a girlfriend. Holy moly.
 
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If that’s the case send him to LA for a week. He will be offering to pay UK to come here.
Sounds like you've never been on UCLA's campus. The ladies are gorgeous, the weather is amazing pretty much all year, and it's 5 miles from the ocean.

It's not like you're sending the kid to Compton.

UK is in my opinion the better basketball program, and I think Mick Cronin is a pretty big douche. But you are completely out of your mind if you think a week at UCLA would turn him off that school.
 

Beatle Bum

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Sounds like you've never been on UCLA's campus. The ladies are gorgeous, the weather is amazing pretty much all year, and it's 5 miles from the ocean.

It's not like you're sending the kid to Compton.

UK is in my opinion the better basketball program, and I think Mick Cronin is a pretty big douche. But you are completely out of your mind if you think a week at UCLA would turn him off that school.
I had a friend who taught a class there. Said one side of the campus had a large fence because it was near a rough area. Don’t have to venture far.
 
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All the European sites. Eurohoops which is a reputable twitter is as well.
So an anonymous Twitter account? Not like an actual reporter using his real name and staking his reputation on the report?

The reason I ask is because (as much as I hate to admit it) Boumtje-Boumtje is the best young talent on FC Barcelona, and he's not getting anything close to $12 mill for his 2 years at dook. Also, UCLA has reportedly been struggling to gather NIL funds for a couple years now. So that number seems mighty far fetched.

If I was making an educated guess, I'd say this number is being floated around to anonymous Twitter accounts in hopes of getting other schools (perhaps Kentucky?) to up their NIL offers.

A good rule of thumb is that if no one is willing to put their name next to it, there's a good chance the "intel" can not be corroborated.
 
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So an anonymous Twitter account? Not like an actual reporter using his real name and staking his reputation on the report?

The reason I ask is because (as much as I hate to admit it) Boumtje-Boumtje is the best young talent on FC Barcelona, and he's not getting anything close to $12 mill for his 2 years at dook. Also, UCLA has reportedly been struggling to gather NIL funds for a couple years now. So that number seems mighty far fetched.

If I was making an educated guess, I'd say this number is being floated around to anonymous Twitter accounts in hopes of getting other schools (perhaps Kentucky?) to up their NIL offers.

A good rule of thumb is that if no one is willing to put their name next to it, there's a good chance the "intel" can not be corroborated.
It’s not an anonymous Twitter account lol. I do think the number is probably close to accurate because most uk people have said that’s about what we offered. Idc where he goes. I think he will be decent piece year 1 and be very good to elite year 2. Pope doesn’t have time to wait for year 2. Also no one knows anything about Duke because they keep all their deals private. I’d bet he’s getting paid a ton at least year 2. Team USA put him at Duke.
 

UKCowboys

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Sounds like you've never been on UCLA's campus. The ladies are gorgeous, the weather is amazing pretty much all year, and it's 5 miles from the ocean.

It's not like you're sending the kid to Compton.

UK is in my opinion the better basketball program, and I think Mick Cronin is a pretty big douche. But you are completely out of your mind if you think a week at UCLA would turn him off that school.
Yeah, the campus visit is the one area we would have a hard time competing in. Getting $12M to live in SoCal for a couple of years and treated like a rock star wouldn't be terrible, even if you had to endure Cronin. If it's purely a basketball decision, then Kentucky is a no brainer pick, but for a 17 year old, their minds tend to be steered by other things, and, as they say, a 10 in Lexington is a 7 in LA
 

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Some of you all are making UCLA’s campus a much bigger deal than it is. Now it may mean more to THIS guy and some others but certainly not to all. Otherwise UCLA would get every top recruit they wanted and there’d be a whole lot of blue bloods getting none.

I think this recruitment comes down more on the money side and the structure of the two year deal.
 

Beatle Bum

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Eurohoops who has over 100k followers is reporting it. They usually spot on with euro kids
Did they cite a source? If not, the amount of followers means nothing to me. Give me a named source. This is not the code to the nuclear football, it’s an effing offer. Source your comment. Otherwise, it could be anyone saying anything and could just be an attempt to improve another offer.
 
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Beatle Bum

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It’s not an anonymous Twitter account lol. I do think the number is probably close to accurate because most uk people have said that’s about what we offered. Idc where he goes. I think he will be decent piece year 1 and be very good to elite year 2. Pope doesn’t have time to wait for year 2. Also no one knows anything about Duke because they keep all their deals private. I’d bet he’s getting paid a ton at least year 2. Team USA put him at Duke.
I don’t know any “UK people” who talk about player contracts. I know of a bunch of talking heads who have anonymous sources or speculate and then others just repeat it as gospel. I feel the same way about them and their sources and conjecture as I feel about a twitter account from Europe.
 

Beatle Bum

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Yeah, the campus visit is the one area we would have a hard time competing in. Getting $12M to live in SoCal for a couple of years and treated like a rock star wouldn't be terrible, even if you had to endure Cronin. If it's purely a basketball decision, then Kentucky is a no brainer pick, but for a 17 year old, their minds tend to be steered by other things, and, as they say, a 10 in Lexington is a 7 in LA
Do UCLA players get treated like rock stars in that pro town that has actual rock stars?
 

UKCowboys

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Do UCLA players get treated like rock stars in that pro town that has actual rock stars?
On Campus? Nearly 50,000 students, half young women in their late teens or early twenties, and a handsome 17 year old with a $12M contract and a likely top 5 NBA draft pick, meaning a likely nine figure future....yeah, even in that town lol. He could look like Nate Newton in his prime and still have to beat them away with a stick lol
 

Beatle Bum

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On Campus? Nearly 50,000 students, half young women in their late teens or early twenties, and a handsome 17 year old with a $12M contract and a likely top 5 NBA draft pick, meaning a likely nine figure future....yeah, even in that town lol. He could look like Nate Newton in his prime and still have to beat them away with a stick lol
I think you are underselling the coeds on UK’s campus and Kentucky’s passion for basketball.