Supreme Court upholds principle that almost all born on U.S. soil are American

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The Supreme Court on Tuesday affirmed the principle that almost everyone born on U.S. soil is a citizen, a major decision that rejects a push by President Donald Trump to fundamentally redefine who is American in ways not seen for more than 150 years.

In a 5-4 ruling, the justices struck down an executive order by the president that said citizenship would not be granted to children born to parents who are in the country illegally or those on temporary visas for work, travel, school or humanitarian reasons.


Trump’s order would have had sweeping political, economic and social ramifications, changing the definition of citizenship in the most significant way since the 14th Amendment guaranteeing citizenship to the formerly enslaved was ratified shortly after the Civil War.
The ruling reaffirms the long-settled understanding that the 14th Amendment automatically confers citizenship on any child born in the United States, with limited exceptions for children of diplomats and other rare cases. The principle was established in a landmark 1898 high court decision that found that Wong Kim Ark, a man born to Chinese immigrants in San Francisco, was a citizen.

A poster shows a picture of Wong Kim Ark at his great-grandson's home in California. In 1898, Wong Kim Ark challenged the U.S. government after being denied re-entry to the country following a trip to his parents' homeland. (Carlos Barria/Reuters)
Solicitor General D. John Sauer told the justices during arguments that granting birthright citizenship to nearly everyone creates a magnet for illegal immigration and “birth tourism” — traveling to the U.S. to have a baby so the child can be a U.S. citizen.

A courtroom sketch depicts Solicitor General D. John Sauer making arguments before the Supreme Court on April 1 with President Donald Trump seated behind him. (Dana Verkouteren/AP)
He also said migrants who take advantage of the United States’ citizenship policy undermine the rule of law.
“We’re in a new world now … where 8 billion people are one plane ride away from having a child who’s a U.S. citizen,” Sauer said.



Sauer’s legal argument turned on a clause in the 14th Amendment, which states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” are citizens.
Sauer said “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” invokes a necessary political allegiance to the United States to be a citizen. He said children whose parents lack permanent residency status cannot demonstrate that fealty because they haven’t committed to staying in the country for the long term.
Cecillia Wang, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union, which sued to block Trump’s order, rejected that argument, saying the phrase has long been understood to refer to the children of diplomats and others.

ACLU National Legal Director Cecillia Wang, center, and ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero, right, outside the Supreme Court building on April 1. (Heather Diehl/Getty Images)
She told the justices that the administration’s reading of the 14th Amendment belied its plain meaning, the court’s holding in United States v. Wong Kim Ark and decades of practice by the government.
“The framers of the 14th Amendment meant to have universal law of citizenship subject to narrow exceptions,” Wang said.

A portrait of American Wong Kim Ark in 1904. (Interim Archives/Getty Images)
As one of the first acts of his second term, Trump issued an executive order in January instructing government agencies to stop issuing citizenship documentation to children born to families without permanent immigration status on or after Feb. 19, 2025.
The administration quickly faced multiple lawsuits over the controversial order.
One of the cases made it to the Supreme Court last year. That case did not deal with the merits of Trump’s birthright citizenship order, but instead examined whether lower federal courts could issue nationwide injunctions. The justices ruled for the Trump administration, limiting the orders that have tied up some of his agenda.



After that decision, the ACLU and other immigrants’ rights groups filed a class-action lawsuit in New Hampshire on behalf of families affected by the order. A federal judge issued a preliminary injunction in the case, but before an appeals court ruled, administration officials petitioned the Supreme Court to take it up.
About 250,000 children would have been born without citizenship in the U.S. each year under Trump’s order, or roughly 5 million by 2045, according to a friend-of-the-court brief filed by dozens of professors. Some would probably have been left stateless because their parents would be unwilling or unable to obtain citizenship for their children in their homelands.

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The professors argued that Trump’s order would create a permanent underclass.
“The creation of this caste would disrupt 150 years of intergenerational upward mobility for immigrants and would reverberate broadly through the U.S. economy and society while failing to address actual causes of migration,” they wrote.
The U.S. is one of about 35 countries that have birthright citizenship. Most nations abide by lineage-based rules that mandate parents be citizens or permanent residents for their children to obtain citizenship.

 
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That four justices could dissent on this one is as clear an indication as possible that they are corrupt as hell.

Correct. Anyone trying to evade this obvious truth by trying to justify the words and actions of the 4 justices we "shockingly" find dissenting in this case by passing their corruption through a constitutional analysis and weighing of the merits is simply a lackey of tyranny. The Court is compromised.
 

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That four justices could dissent on this one is as clear an indication as possible that they are corrupt as hell.


This. If they were constitutionalists, it should have been 9-0. This is why the Supreme Court needs to be fixed during the next Admininistration. Which Biden could have done but didn't.

edit - and based on some of the discussions today, at least one of the 6 need to evaluated. "guarantees citizenship to all people born or naturalized in the United States. " If you are literally in the hospital and gave birth, that baby was obviously BORN in the US.
 
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tarheelbybirth1

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Correct. Anyone trying to evade this obvious truth by trying to justify the words and actions of the 4 justices we "shockingly" find dissenting in this case by passing their corruption through a constitutional analysis and weighing of the merits is simply a lackey of tyranny. The Court is compromised.
We're one justice away from a SCOTUS that'll tell Trump he can run again because his first two terms weren't consecutive and then authorize a federal takeover of elections.
 

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And it saddens me to say that about the Court ... I practiced law, pretty successfully by most objective measures, for some time. My wife still practices the law, and was a politically-motivated-decision-by-Trump away from being a federal judge, and I have always held the utmost respect for those in the employ of interpreting the law, even if I disagreed with their viewpoints legally, politically, etc. But the situation is obvious. While there are still a great many folks, wherever they land on the political spectrum, who pridefully and properly attempt to discharge their duties as judges/justices, those at the top do not share in that burden.
 

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And it saddens me to say that about the Court ... I practiced law, pretty successfully by most objective measures, for some time. My wife still practices the law, and was a politically-motivated-decision-by-Trump away from being a federal judge, and I have always held the utmost respect for those in the employ of interpreting the law, even if I disagreed with their viewpoints legally, politically, etc. But the situation is obvious. While there are still a great many folks, wherever they land on the political spectrum, who pridefully and properly attempt to discharge their duties as judges/justices, those at the top do not share in that burden.
Thomas, Alito, and Roberts to some extent, are committed to a robust effort to recreate the executive branch as the dominant branch of our government. Gorsuch seems committed to this. Today they didn't go along with Trump and Stephen Miller. Yesterday they did with Slaughter.
 
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This. If they were constitutionalists, it should have been 9-0. This is why the Supreme Court needs to be fixed during the next Admininistration. Which Biden could have done but didn't.

edit - and based on some of the discussions today, at least one of the 6 need to evaluated. "guarantees citizenship to all people born or naturalized in the United States. " If you are literally in the hospital and gave birth, that baby was obviously BORN in the US.
So a woman from China can fly to Guam, give birth, return to China, raise the kid in China, and when he/she turns 35, he/she can run for President. Common sense would say this is probably not a smart thing to allow. Too little of that these days.
 

Huey Grey 2

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So a woman from China can fly to Guam, give birth, return to China, raise the kid in China, and when he/she turns 35, he/she can run for President. Common sense would say this is probably not a smart thing to allow. Too little of that these days.
We currently have a pedophile who can only read at a 4th grade level who is President. I'd trade for this Guam kid in a heartbeat
 

tarheelbybirth1

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So a woman from China can fly to Guam, give birth, return to China, raise the kid in China, and when he/she turns 35, he/she can run for President. Common sense would say this is probably not a smart thing to allow. Too little of that these days.
It wasn't a smart thing to allow Trump to run the first time, much less a second time but here we are. Just out of curiosity, do you seriously think your hypothetical would get votes. No? Then allowing Trump to run a second time was far, far dumber (it has a "b" in it...not a lot of people know that).
 
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So a woman from China can fly to Guam, give birth, return to China, raise the kid in China, and when he/she turns 35, he/she can run for President. Common sense would say this is probably not a smart thing to allow. Too little of that these days.
What the hell is this common sense thing you speak of?
I think it will be better when illegals keep having kids here, they go back to their home country and then once they turn 18 they vote for a president that wants to open the boarder so all their family and friends can come here too.
 
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It wasn't a smart thing to allow Trump to run the first time, much less a second time but here we are. Just out of curiosity, do you seriously think your hypothetical would get votes. No? Then allowing Trump to run a second time was far, far dumber (it has a "b" in it...not a lot of people know that).
Don’t stop there, the democrats then nominated Harris to run for president. This country really is dumb.
 
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GesterHawk

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This. If they were constitutionalists, it should have been 9-0. This is why the Supreme Court needs to be fixed during the next Admininistration. Which Biden could have done but didn't.

edit - and based on some of the discussions today, at least one of the 6 need to evaluated. "guarantees citizenship to all people born or naturalized in the United States. " If you are literally in the hospital and gave birth, that baby was obviously BORN in the US.
What if it was on a plane but in US airspace?

No, seriously asking because there could be serious money in anchor flights.
 

hopefultiger13

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Real solution is to amend the constitution to eliminate this outdated practice...
Agreed! I was a bit worried about the SOCTUS on this one, b/c or Thomas and Alito, who'd vote for ANYTHING Republican. It's pretty scary that this one wasn't 9-0.

I don't disagree that this could be a bad idea and you could EASILY confince me to vote for changing the Constitution on this. But the Constitution is clear on this one. When the Trump bid for a 3rd term comes up, I'd look for another 6-3 or 7-2 vote.
 

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So a woman from China can fly to Guam, give birth, return to China, raise the kid in China, and when he/she turns 35, he/she can run for President. Common sense would say this is probably not a smart thing to allow. Too little of that these days.
Don’t like it? Start an amendment petition.

This is how the Constitution works.
 

Torbee

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Let's get you on record. Is it your assertation that certain constitutional provisions are outdated and should not be held up in the context of today's America?
Mine is.

it’s dumb we no longer make use of the built in editing function of our founding document.

Personally, I’d start with the Electoral College. Sick of minority rule and being held hostage by rural bumpkins.
 

JayDeeSC

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Mine is.

it’s dumb we no longer make use of the built in editing function of our founding document.

Personally, I’d start with the Electoral College. Sick of minority rule and being held hostage by rural bumpkins.
I completely agree. However, there are some who pick and choose what parts of the document are untouchable, so I enjoy calling out their hypocrisy.
 

Torbee

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I completely agree. However, there are some who pick and choose what parts of the document are untouchable, so I enjoy calling out their hypocrisy.
Nothing in the Constitution should be untouchable. It was designed to be a living document for a reason.

That said, it should be up to the PEOPLE - throught the amendment process - to change it. Not some a.sshole president that thinks he's a monarch.
 

JayDeeSC

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Nothing in the Constitution should be untouchable. It was designed to be a living document for a reason.

That said, it should be up to the PEOPLE - throught the amendment process - to change it. Not some a.sshole president that thinks he's a monarch.
I agree, and I think it is high time we make some meaningful and necessary amendments. 2 in particular.
 

GesterHawk

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It would have to be on an airplane registered in the US. A Canadian-registered aircraft is Canadian territory until it lands in another country.
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There's a good chance every poster here as well as the SC justices' own families benefited from birthright citizenship. If your ancestors immigrated after 1868 and had children in the U.S., those children became citizens under the 14th Amendment. That's how citizenship has worked for over 150 years.
 

Rifler

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Let's get you on record. Is it your assertation that certain constitutional provisions are outdated and should not be held up in the context of today's America?

No,.. It would be my assertion that there are elements of the constitution that vague enough so as to inadequately describe their truly intended purpose,... These vagaries can only be clarified via amendment.
 
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Thefunksouljon

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So a woman from China can fly to Guam, give birth, return to China, raise the kid in China, and when he/she turns 35, he/she can run for President. Common sense would say this is probably not a smart thing to allow. Too little of that these days.


As mentioned above, based on the Constitution and law, likely yes. So Amend the law properly. President poopypants doesn't get to decree something.

And we are well overdue for some modernization of our guiding principles.
 

UrHuckleberry

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There's a good chance every poster here as well as the SC justices' own families benefited from birthright citizenship. If your ancestors immigrated after 1868 and had children in the U.S., those children became citizens under the 14th Amendment. That's how citizenship has worked for over 150 years.
For example, our Secretary of State should've been deemed a non-citizen were this to pass. His parents weren't citizen's when he was born in the US.
 

Rifler

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There's a good chance every poster here as well as the SC justices' own families benefited from birthright citizenship. If your ancestors immigrated after 1868 and had children in the U.S., those children became citizens under the 14th Amendment. That's how citizenship has worked for over 150 years.

Most US citizens became such simply by demonstrating direct lineage to a US citizen parent,.. Birthright citizenship is an alternate path that allows non-citizen parents to create a citizen.