No he just finished his Soph year. Hes still deciding on a college
Five in Five - What Might That Look Like?
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This is going to be frustrating to track at least for awhile with who's going 5 for 5 and who's doing traditional. I hope rosters can reflect years of eligibility left or at least in addition to academic year.
yep. My databases are going to take a hit.
They're saying you can use 4/5 and RS that doesn't mean medicals and Olympic RS are still available to them. They're not gonna allow one graduating class extend careers out 6 and 7 years when everyone after can't.
Also not true about Bo the NCAA academic year starts Aug 1 so Bo had more then a week it's not when va tech starts classes it's the NCAA academic year of August 1
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Per the release from the NCAA hardship waivers for athletes that would currently be eligible must be submitted by the end of July. I would take that to mean that those who may qualify for a medical redshirt could still possibly get one but future medicals and Olympic redshirts are off the table.
For schools with current student-athletes who may be eligible for hardship waivers or extensions of eligibility, the Cabinet indicated that the deadline to submit any waiver requests to NCAA staff is July 31. After that date, waivers would no longer be available for current student-athletes or prospects.
Division I Cabinet continues discussions of age-based collegiate eligibility model - NCAA.org
The Division I Cabinet on Friday discussed possible implementation of an age-based eligibility model, should the concept ultimately be formally proposed and approved.
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Yes because the rule would've been in place when said injuries occurred . So they can put in for that hardship waiver before the end of the academic year which is July 31Per the release from the NCAA hardship waivers for athletes that would currently be eligible must be submitted by the end of July. I would take that to mean that those who may qualify for a medical redshirt could still possibly get one but future medicals and Olympic redshirts are off the table.
For schools with current student-athletes who may be eligible for hardship waivers or extensions of eligibility, the Cabinet indicated that the deadline to submit any waiver requests to NCAA staff is July 31. After that date, waivers would no longer be available for current student-athletes or prospects.
Division I Cabinet continues discussions of age-based collegiate eligibility model - NCAA.org
The Division I Cabinet on Friday discussed possible implementation of an age-based eligibility model, should the concept ultimately be formally proposed and approved.
I don’t understand what’s the point of the gray shirt here? Just do the 5/5 right away and not use your first year.
Grayshirting isn’t that good, you can’t practice with the team.
They made the date September 1 for being 19 . Crazy and this is why I kept saying we will know more once it's signed.
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NCAA Division I Age-Based Eligibility Rules: Eligibility 101
NCAA Division I Age-Based Eligibility Rules: Eligibility 101
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They made the date September 1 for being 19 . Crazy and this is why I kept saying we will know more once it's signed.
NCAA Division I Age-Based Eligibility Rules: Eligibility 101
NCAA Division I Age-Based Eligibility Rules: Eligibility 101
Only if your birthday is on or before September 1. But no greyshirts for those guys.
Is this starting now? Kozak is saying this applies to Bo Bassett, which doesnt seem rightThey made the date September 1 for being 19 . Crazy and this is why I kept saying we will know more once it's signed.
NCAA Division I Age-Based Eligibility Rules: Eligibility 101
NCAA Division I Age-Based Eligibility Rules: Eligibility 101
Not for sure but I think in Moccos case. If he doesn't gray shirt he could be behind BK 2 years and be left with 3. That's assuming BK is better, not going to football and no season ending injury.
Sounds like 2026 HS grads would be grandfathered in and Bo
gets 5 years. And the Sept 1 date starts for 2027 enrollees
Can he apply for two hardship years at once? Or will they only grant him one of the two waivers?
Yes he can apply for two. Guys have gotten multiple years in the past.
He can apply for two but very unlikely he's approved for two. His last match last year was 24 Jan.
Yes he should have two years. I was referring to getting two Med RS approved. He should get one Med RS approved along with his remaining year for two total.
I love the 5 in 5. Make it simple (after the grandfathered in choice group is done anyway). No redshirts or greyshirts. I hope lawsuits don't change it. Something the NCAA got right for once.
I wouldn’t have much sympathy for a person that took 2 redshirts before college.
Lots of confusion still. VA tech compliance is saying he gets 5. The NCAA is saying the grandfathering is for 4/5 or 5/5 choice for 2026 enrollees but that doesn't count for age. Time will tell. If Bo is only getting 4 no doubt a lawsuit will be filed and they will say he shouldn't be punished for a rule he wasn't aware of prior. Had he been aware he could've enrolled at semester last year like Jax did that will be the argument
Why’d Bo not enroll early? Wanted that 4th ironman title?
I have no idea why. Had they known for sure it was coming and he would only get 4 years no doubt he wouldve enrolled. He's obviously not afraid of competition.
Wonder if he had met his high school requirements yet?
Also, not sure on when he decommitted and chose VT. That seemed like a drawn out process.
Edit: Just so Spooner don't hammer me for not using Google, I did. He decommitted Iowa June 2025 and signed with VT Ocotober 2025. Too late for first semester obviously but maybe could have enrolled second.
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Unless I am stupid, this entire explanation was messed up.
Kozak said that if you turned 19 before 1 September you would not qualify for the 5 for 5. I think he means 20. Bo Bassett's birthdate is 25 Aug 2006, which makes him 20 this upcoming August 25th.
He then goes on to say that your 5 for 5 clock starts the date you enroll or the year AFTER you turn 19. Again I think he means 18. He used Jayden James as an example and Jayden James just turned 18 but he graduated HS. He qualifies for a grey shirt this year because his 5 for 5 clock starts 1 year after turning 18 which would be the 27-28 college year.
Again, I'm either stupid or this clarification was the worst clarification in history if you're trying to inform the masses.
Kozak said that if you turned 19 before 1 September you would not qualify for the 5 for 5. I think he means 20. Bo Bassett's birthdate is 25 Aug 2006, which makes him 20 this upcoming August 25th.
He then goes on to say that your 5 for 5 clock starts the date you enroll or the year AFTER you turn 19. Again I think he means 18. He used Jayden James as an example and Jayden James just turned 18 but he graduated HS. He qualifies for a grey shirt this year because his 5 for 5 clock starts 1 year after turning 18 which would be the 27-28 college year.
Again, I'm either stupid or this clarification was the worst clarification in history if you're trying to inform the masses.
Actually I think it's just word semantics and Kozak and I are saying the same thing. He did however use present tense when saying "Bo turns 19 in August", actually he turned 19 last August and that right from the get go muddled it for me. If he had said something along the lines of your clock starts for the 5 for 5 when you enroll or the first September 1st after turning 19 it would have been clearer.
Intermixing calendar years and college years is also confusing. Am I correct in assuming if someone turns 18 in January, graduate HS in May, that they could take a grey shirt that next year. Because this rule seems to be operating under the calendar year vs college year.
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If you turn 19 before September 1 your Senior year in HS your clock starts then and you would get 4 years .
If you turn 19 after Sept 1 your Senior year you get 5 years .
Yes that guy could take a grey he would be 19 after Sept 1 .
I am still really shaky on putting these pieces together. In this case what good would a grey shirt do? You don’t get to extend into a 6th year so why not try and contribute during that gray year. Or can you effectively push back the clock starting one year, gray shirt and then start the 5 year clock?
You have 5 years after you enroll as long as you're 20 after Aug 31 when you enroll . If you graduate at 17 in June with a September 1 birthday you could do 2 grey shirts before you enroll and get 5. So the new holdback is no nut November. Everyone will be trying for kids in December/January and enroll them early and graduate at 17 with a September or October birthday
Grey shirts pretty much defeat the whole purpose of 5 for 5. They might as well kept the old system if the vast majority can hang around 6 years.
I think most people graduate at 19, some at 18 if they have a late birthday. Just depends. So some people will be able to grayshirt when they graduate, but then they can’t practice with the team or compete attached. Very limited, not sure if the elite wrestlers of the world need to do that.
The elites won't, but the intent was to simplify the system and have less carve outs....I'm not sure this accomplishes that.
Most kids graduate at 18
Before I saw the details I thought grey shirt opportunities were going to be rare; Jayden James was the name that kept being brought up (he just turned 18 this month) and I thought fine, really young graduates could take a grey shirt. But the way it's come out (I haven't read it, just basing it on what people are saying) it sounds like the majority of incoming college freshman would qualify for a grey shirt.
If most kids graduate high school at 19 nowadays, all hope for society is officially lost.
I had a few friends graduate at 17 back in 2008 (June and July birthdays).
I will definitely say back in the day we had one guy who was a full year older than me our senior year. I graduated at 18 and him at 19 and it was odd. Not a small school either. Over 300 kids in our class and he was the odd one at 19.
lol no. I’d be surprised if even 10% of high school grads are 19. And I’d bet as many or more high school grads are 17 than 19.