Ciera, Reniya, Blanca and several others putting in work. The body composition changes are quite noticeable.
Heels Ladies Body Transformation Underway
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Ciera, Reniya, Blanca and several others putting in work. The body composition changes are quite noticeable.
Blanca looks like she is working hard. I know she can do it. Go Heels!
Her body composition change is amazing which should lead to less injuries and more agility, power and speed. She’s certainly putting in the work.
UNC has officially and emphatically rejected the modifier “Lady” from all UNC athletics. You can’t put it in UNC publications, media or on merchandise. it is also requested that all athletes are called Tar Heels, full stop, in the media standards guide given out to all outside reporters and authors.
our teams don’t want the term lady and I try to honor that in my own speech. I think that is basic courtesy to call people what they want to be called.
Of course, that is a personal decision. there are no rules on this board that reject that term specifically.
our teams don’t want the term lady and I try to honor that in my own speech. I think that is basic courtesy to call people what they want to be called.
Of course, that is a personal decision. there are no rules on this board that reject that term specifically.
Well to be honest some of us do not live in the area therefore, we did not know that fact. As someone stated earlier these terms are synonyms. Also, some of us who post are from different age groups; therefore, with that being in mind, we may use the term ladies not out of disrespect, but that was the way we were taught in our English classes which is correct English by the way. I do not have a problem with someone using the term ladies. I would rather them use that term then girls. Go Heels!
What was the reason for rejecting the term? Did they poll all the female athletes to arrive at that decision?
You can use women and I’ll continue to use women or ladies just as I use men or fellas. It’s a post on a message board with no negative implications intended, in fact the post is applauding their efforts so take it however you choose.
She is in the same picture behind CT. When you look at it, you can clearly see that she has slimmed down tremendously and waiting to lift weights.
You can also see her transformation in the 2nd video in the hand-eye coordination exercise.
There is nothing clear in that pic. Background, ha ha. If she shows out in practice day one and plays more than 5 minutes in first game, and actually does not waddle up the court 2-3 times total, then good on her. I appreciate any serious work. She had (has ?) "potential". Carolina needs real inside presence. Can Toomey come back to her predicted "potential" and evolve into a REAL player? That would be significant. No need for ANY hype. Hype does not cut anything. Plenty of hype constantly on this board. The on-court games are real and are all that matters. Last year she was not relevant. next season? We will see.
I don't think you have to "live in the area". You just have to be alive and also understand what people in general like to be called, out of respect.
It should not matter IMO if you called a female, a young lady, woman, etc. It is hard to know what someone likes to be called if you do not know them. For example, if I am at the store, and I need help from a woman who is working there, I may use one of those female terms mentioned above. I do not see the need to ask that person what do you want me to call them; especially if I am passing through; therefore, I will not have time to sit there and ask a person what they would like to be called. That is basically what I was saying about not living in the area. As long as you are showing or trying to show that person some form of respect, that should matter.
Slimmed down Blanca could make a huge difference to this team.
You don't need to be slim to play post in D1 WBB. It can help for some, but I'd rather have strength, explosiveness, stamina, and athleticism. Building those skills is not strongly correlated with "slim," and "slim" can be a pretty problematic focus to place on young women (men too.)
This is not an eye test thing. What matters is the metrics the staff measures in the gym. Sometimes those gains are visibly apparent. Sometimes not as much. We as fans do not have access to these metrics. For a analog to illustrate the point, think of a football lineman. Sometimes the eye test can tell you a lot. But quite often it is not very informative or downright misleading.
Thomas has always had solid footwork and a solid sense of court awareness for a post in general What I want to see more than anything is assertiveness, bordering on aggressiveness. I think that will help in finishing as well. Her scoring efficiency needs to go way up. She also should be able to rebound at am even higher rate, given her reach and footwork ability. (But her rebound rate as a freshmen was quite good; tops on the team tied with Ustby.)
This is not an eye test thing. What matters is the metrics the staff measures in the gym. Sometimes those gains are visibly apparent. Sometimes not as much. We as fans do not have access to these metrics. For a analog to illustrate the point, think of a football lineman. Sometimes the eye test can tell you a lot. But quite often it is not very informative or downright misleading.
Thomas has always had solid footwork and a solid sense of court awareness for a post in general What I want to see more than anything is assertiveness, bordering on aggressiveness. I think that will help in finishing as well. Her scoring efficiency needs to go way up. She also should be able to rebound at am even higher rate, given her reach and footwork ability. (But her rebound rate as a freshmen was quite good; tops on the team tied with Ustby.)
it will show in games. Can she get up and down the court to be relevant. First, running is the test for her. Dean Smith said give me a "big" that can run and has "good hands", and he proceeded many times to make such player a good to better player. Can Thomas run and not waddle. The chat and pie hope is irrelevant. As said we do not see the data. Nothing to hide in game play. Hope she can play the game the Tar Heels desire and need to play. Very tired of the hopeful explanations/excuses. Time for this player to put up. Hope for her success. If she can be a real player, she helps the Heels greatly.
I agree with you nicheel. A slimmer BT will better for her as far as conditioning, etc and for our team. I will give an example. When Jessica Shephard played her freshman year at Nebraska, she was sort like BT as far as size, build, etc. When she transferred to ND, Muffet had her to lose weight, slim down, etc. Jessica numbers soared and she became an all ACC player. Now she is in the WNBA and is a major reason why the Dallas Wings are having a good year this year. She is slimmer, faster, etc.
I’m more impressed with her body composition changes because of apparent toning and agility gains as viewed in some of the other videos. She’s running the court more fluidly. Agree that weight can be carried by different body types advantageously but it appeared that BT was still dealing with the aftermath of injury recovery last season.
She’s put in a lot of off season effort and hopefully it leads to her contributing more heavily on the boards, defensively and with in the paint scoring especially put backs.
Nah, there are plenty of great bigs who are not rim runners. There is more than one way to win in basketball. Is that the team we want to be? Is that the team we have built to be? Probably not. But if you are good enough you will play, even in our system.
improved fitness is absolutely a key goal. For Thomas and everyone else for that matter. But if you think that is a 1:1 correlation with looking slimmer for everyone you are wrong. I could list dozens of examples in the W and NCAA, but not going down that path of categorizing people by body Type.
not sure what you mean by waddle, chat and pie hope, excuses, and time to put up, but I don’t like where you are headed there.
we have no idea what individual players are dealing with physically and mentally. These hot takes are not constructive. my suggestion to all is to focus on game play and outcome more so than what you think someone should look like and move like. (you make reference to game play in your post, so I agree with those points.)
Well, the bottom line is very simple folks. We need contributions from the 5 position if we want to make it to the elite 8 and final four. We all know and saw that you must have an inside presence along with an outside presence in order to go far in the tournament, and that is exactly what we saw this past season with the four teams who made it to the final four. Go Heels!
Jriv, you are absolutely correct. We have 3 candidate's for the 5 spot. Ciera Toomey,
Blanca Thomas and Noelle Bofia who at this point we know very little about except she looks like
an athlete and she can palm the ball and dunk it.(I love that)
Toomey is talented but needs to get stronger/take the next step. Blanca shows glimpse's of talent in limited time but needs to get stronger, tougher, faster/or better conditioned. Bofia we are all waiting to see how
close to ready for ACC play she is.
I personally believe we are going to be strong PG thru 4. The five is the spot we know we have
to play stronger, we know Ciera can do the job well but she needs to be able to take the next step JMO.
I am ready for some film of the team and how summer is going for them. Go Heels!
Blanca Thomas and Noelle Bofia who at this point we know very little about except she looks like
an athlete and she can palm the ball and dunk it.(I love that)
Toomey is talented but needs to get stronger/take the next step. Blanca shows glimpse's of talent in limited time but needs to get stronger, tougher, faster/or better conditioned. Bofia we are all waiting to see how
close to ready for ACC play she is.
I personally believe we are going to be strong PG thru 4. The five is the spot we know we have
to play stronger, we know Ciera can do the job well but she needs to be able to take the next step JMO.
I am ready for some film of the team and how summer is going for them. Go Heels!
Blanca's injury did not allow her to do much last season on the court, or off the court physically. In hindsight she probably should have red shirted. She is now back to normal. We will learn a lot about her this season. She will either take a step forward or will fall behind others on the depth chart. Either way, the center spot will probably be by committee depending on match ups and how certain players are performing.
Hindsight bias at play here. Prognosis is based on probability. Sometimes you heal and then can condition on that estimated schedule, sometimes you do not. Then you can throw in complications, setbacks, and reinjuries ... that initial prognosis can change real fast.
Fans here got real mad when Paulina Paris, faced with some similar uncertainties, decided for herself to play it safe.
In both cases it is important to remember we are dealing with uncertainty. No one can tell you definitively when you are certainly ready to go 100%, much less when you might be able to go 100% at some future date. We rely on doctors to provide that opinion, based on their extensive knowledge, but it is still probability.
All a coach can do is stick to that prognosis and eventual clearance from the doctor. Because it is the best guess we have. Most coaches will obviously not let a player play against medical advice, but even after cleared, the player also has a say if they are ready to accept whatever risk remains.
When you say that CB did not give BT the option to redshirt, do you have inside info, or are you make some massive assumption here? All I can say for sure is I can guarantee you that medical staff was heavily involved with any injury that may have affected her play.
Mostly agree. Thomas last season could not run the court.
Agree. Last season Thomas could not play, could not run the court. Hope she gained from experience.
I do not Doubt off season work has happened. I do not trust that work has made the difference. I have seen nor read a word from staff confirming her current condition as positive from any Thomas source. These transformations may be in place. Believe what you see when you see it. Things in the past no longer matter. Future dreaming does not matter. I await to see what Carolina has per roster. Last seen Toomey was Medicare+ . The new recruit can dunk in open gym. Thomas still has potential. I wish for player improvements so to be strong in the post.
From the video, it appears that everyone whose is on this years' team is on campus now and working out. This is a good sign. Go Heels!
By some. A compliment by others. Is referring to a male as a gentleman also sexist? None of us can speak for these people without first asking their preferences. To do so is patronizing and condescending.
I tarboy, I remember now. If you go to the video posted above by 23UNC and go to the top of the video, you will see a line that says uncwbb, click on the link and it will take you to the women's bb webpage. Scroll down and you will see the team taking a picture with a white guy in the middle which had to be taken recently. If you count the number of players in that picture, you will get 14. I hope this helps. Jriv23.
the damn university itself has asked people to stop calling them ladies because it is sexist....I think if the school is asking this of us, we can be pretty sure thats what they want....goodness