How are you all feeling about the Trump - Iran Deal?
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I feel way better about it than Obama's and Biden’s, which gave them billions, continued access to and ability to pursue nuclear weapons.
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the JCPOA (joint comprehensive plan of action) never eliminated Iran's ability to pursue a Nuclear weapon. After a period of a little more than a decade, ALL restrictions were off!
Under Obama's Iran Nuclear Deal, When Would Iran Legally Be Free To Pursue Nuclear Weapons?
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Under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) negotiated under President Obama, the most constraining, time‑bound limits on Iran’s uranium enrichment and related activities were set to expire roughly 15 years after the deal’s implementation — meaning Iran would be legally free of several major JCPOA restrictions around 2031
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The Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA): What It Was and Why It Collapsed
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after the January 2020 killing of IRGC Commander Qasem Soleimani, Iran announced it would no longer observe any operational limits from the deal. By January 2021, Iran enriched to 20% purity. By April 2022, it had enriched to 60%. By 2024, Iran's stockpile exceeded 6,000 kilograms of enriched uranium at various levels, with multiple cascades of advanced IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges operating
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The main reason Trump scuttled the JCPOA is IT DID NOTHING TO PREVENT IRAN FROM ACQUIRING A NUCLEAR WEAPON
Beyond their ongoing violations (mentioned above) enriching Uranium and denying inspections, the radical Islamic leadership never abandoned its Nuclear program which the JCPOA was supposed to eliminate! They continued to threaten Israel and their Middle East neighbors with annihilation and continued to fund terrorist operations around the world promising death to "Little Satan" Israel and "Great Satan" the United States of America. As of today, Iran no longer has a Nuclear program...all of its facilities are destroyed, its scientists and leadership are dead, and its economy is decimated. This MOU assures they not only can never pursue a Nuclear weapon, but they won't ever have the capability of doing so at any time in the future.
the JCPOA (joint comprehensive plan of action) never eliminated Iran's ability to pursue a Nuclear weapon. After a period of a little more than a decade, ALL restrictions were off!
| Attribute | Before JCPOA | After JCPOA (10-Year Period) | After 15 Years |
|---|---|---|---|
| Centrifuges Installed | 19,138 | Capped at 6,104 | Unconstrained |
| Stockpile of Low-Enriched Uranium | 7,154 kg | Limited to 300 kg | Unconstrained |
| Uranium Enrichment Level | No Limit | Capped at 3.67% | Unconstrained |
Under Obama's Iran Nuclear Deal, When Would Iran Legally Be Free To Pursue Nuclear Weapons?
excerpt:
Under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) negotiated under President Obama, the most constraining, time‑bound limits on Iran’s uranium enrichment and related activities were set to expire roughly 15 years after the deal’s implementation — meaning Iran would be legally free of several major JCPOA restrictions around 2031
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The Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA): What It Was and Why It Collapsed
excerpt:
after the January 2020 killing of IRGC Commander Qasem Soleimani, Iran announced it would no longer observe any operational limits from the deal. By January 2021, Iran enriched to 20% purity. By April 2022, it had enriched to 60%. By 2024, Iran's stockpile exceeded 6,000 kilograms of enriched uranium at various levels, with multiple cascades of advanced IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges operating
*editor's note
The main reason Trump scuttled the JCPOA is IT DID NOTHING TO PREVENT IRAN FROM ACQUIRING A NUCLEAR WEAPON
Beyond their ongoing violations (mentioned above) enriching Uranium and denying inspections, the radical Islamic leadership never abandoned its Nuclear program which the JCPOA was supposed to eliminate! They continued to threaten Israel and their Middle East neighbors with annihilation and continued to fund terrorist operations around the world promising death to "Little Satan" Israel and "Great Satan" the United States of America. As of today, Iran no longer has a Nuclear program...all of its facilities are destroyed, its scientists and leadership are dead, and its economy is decimated. This MOU assures they not only can never pursue a Nuclear weapon, but they won't ever have the capability of doing so at any time in the future.
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Uhhh… I believe this deal gives them MORE, Much More. From my quick research, the JCPOA allowed them access to $150B of their frozen assets plus $1.7B additional. From what I understand from the Donny Deal, the USA is paying them $300B for reconstruction and economic development, PLUS release of their frozen assets. How is Donny’s Deal better? This seems like a far cry from an Unconditional Surrender. lol
There is no money coming from the US to Iran under this memorandum of understanding
US says Iran won't get funds upfront under MoU
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US officials sought to clarify key provisions of the memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Iran, pushing back against reports that Tehran would receive access to frozen assets, sanctions relief or a multibillion-dollar reconstruction package upon signing the agreement. Speaking on a background call after the text was made public, the officials said the agreement does not commit Washington to any immediate economic concessions, but instead creates a framework under which incentives would be tied to Iranian compliance and progress toward a final deal
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Addressing a provision in the MoU to create a reconstruction and economic development plan worth at least $300 billion, the officials said the language does not require the United States to contribute funds or provide direct financial assistance to Iran.
Instead, they said the provision would allow sanctions relief in the future if Iran fulfills its commitments, enabling third countries and private investors to participate in projects inside Iran.
US says Iran won't get funds upfront under MoU
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US officials sought to clarify key provisions of the memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Iran, pushing back against reports that Tehran would receive access to frozen assets, sanctions relief or a multibillion-dollar reconstruction package upon signing the agreement. Speaking on a background call after the text was made public, the officials said the agreement does not commit Washington to any immediate economic concessions, but instead creates a framework under which incentives would be tied to Iranian compliance and progress toward a final deal
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Addressing a provision in the MoU to create a reconstruction and economic development plan worth at least $300 billion, the officials said the language does not require the United States to contribute funds or provide direct financial assistance to Iran.
Instead, they said the provision would allow sanctions relief in the future if Iran fulfills its commitments, enabling third countries and private investors to participate in projects inside Iran.
There's already numerous post so no reason to start a new with lying about the facts.
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You of all people should know what “Unconditional Surrender” means and that $300B > $1.7B.
$300B plus access to $250 Billion of frozen assets is greater than $1.7B and access to $150B of frozen asset which was also based on conditions. In essence, this Donny Deal is worse than the Obama deal. And is cerNOT an Unconstitutional Surrender. Spin it how you want but facts are facts. He told us over a year ago that he had destroyed their nuclear capabilities yet he we are today and he’s saying just the opposite. Not surprising of course, the man wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him in the ***. Congratulations Donny on a BS negotiation and for costing Americans Billions in tax dollars. I’m not sure how many more Unconditional Surrenders we can afford. Bravo!! lol
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Hey you Leftists pissed off today over Trump's Iran deal?
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Hey you Leftists pissed off today over Trump's Iran deal?
We aren't giving them our money dummy. Trump said other countries can invest if they want and they don't get any of their money back if the don't comply. Just think Trump for finally doing something about Iran even though the Democrats were rooting for the IRGC.
JUST IN: Vice President JD Vance SWATS DOWN the lies that the US is footing the $300 billion investment into Iran, if they comply and behave "We'd say if you behave, if the Emiratis [or other countries] want to build a power plant, then we will make that possible!" "It creates integration, which is LEVERAGE. A world where the Gulf Coast Coalition has leverage over the Iranian economy, is a world where the Iranians are prevented from misbehaving!" "They see Iran is weakened and there's an opportunity to build a new relationship."
Can any one of you malcontents and whiners on the Left upset over this Trump Iran MoU tell us exactly when Iran is supposed to get the "300 billion dollars" and access to their frozen accounts you all are whining about? 
Under the toothless JCPOA, they got billions in cash stacked on pallets moments after ink of the phony deal was even dry!
*(from AI sources)
Iran began receiving financial benefits immediately after the JCPOA took effect on January 16, 2016.
The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)
Under the toothless JCPOA, they got billions in cash stacked on pallets moments after ink of the phony deal was even dry!
*(from AI sources)
Iran began receiving financial benefits immediately after the JCPOA took effect on January 16, 2016.
The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)
Funny. Even MAGA Senators Cruz and Cotton disagree with you. They too think this is a bad deal. Every time I visit this board I think back to what a friend once told me, “You Can’t Make Logic Out Of Crazy.” You will defend this criminal to your dying breath. Character Matters and he has NONE! Enjoy your fairytale, make believe world.
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Vance explained it to you. The fact you are too retarded to understand is a you problem.
I'm posting this synopsis from the above linked article on key elements of the JCPOA in part to show clearly one unmistakable, unarguable, FACT when comparing it to the current MoU.
Iran's Nuclear program under the MoU is over!
Under this MoU... there is no more "enrichment", there are no more centrifuges, there are no remaining Uranium "stockpiles", there are no "moratoriums" on their future development of a nuclear weapon, there is no more "research" into developing weapons grade material , there are no more "idle" reactors...in short... Iran will NEVER have or build another Nuclear weapon again under this MoU!
Under the phony JCPOA, it wasn't a matter of if Iran would build a Nuke, but how soon?
From linked article
Iran's Nuclear program under the MoU is over!
Under this MoU... there is no more "enrichment", there are no more centrifuges, there are no remaining Uranium "stockpiles", there are no "moratoriums" on their future development of a nuclear weapon, there is no more "research" into developing weapons grade material , there are no more "idle" reactors...in short... Iran will NEVER have or build another Nuclear weapon again under this MoU!
Under the phony JCPOA, it wasn't a matter of if Iran would build a Nuke, but how soon?
From linked article
| Key Requirements and Actions Mandated by the JCPOA | |
| Enrichment |
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| Uranium Stockpile |
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| Fordow |
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| Advanced Centrifuge Research and Development |
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| Arak Reactor |
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I'm posting this synopsis from the above linked article on key elements of the JCPOA in part to show clearly one unmistakable, unarguable, FACT when comparing it to the current MoU.
Iran's Nuclear program under the MoU is over!
Under this MoU... there is no more "enrichment", there are no more centrifuges, there are no remaining Uranium "stockpiles", there are no "moratoriums" on their future development of a nuclear weapon...in short... Iran will NEVER have or build another Nuclear weapon again under this MoU!
Under the phony JCPOA, it wasn't a matter of if Iran would build a Nuke, but how soon?
From linked article
Key Requirements and Actions Mandated by the JCPOA Enrichment
- For 10 years operating centrifuges reduced to 5,060 IR-1 machines, total machines is 6,104 IR-1s
- Excess centrifuges (over 13,000) dismantled and stored under IAEA monitoring
- For 15 years level of uranium enrichment capped at 3.67 percent uranium-235
- For 15 years enrichment only at Natanz
- For 10 years no production of additional IR-1 centrifuges
- Between years 11-13 Iran can replace IR-1s with the equivalent capacity of IR-6 and IR-8 machines and limits lasting to years 14-15
Uranium Stockpile
- For 15 years the stockpile is kept under 300 kilograms of 3.67 percent enriched uranium in total (all forms)
- Excess enriched uranium sold, shipped abroad for storage, or diluted to natural uranium levels
- Uranium oxide and scrap material enriched up to 20 percent fabricated into fuel for Tehran Research Reactor, blended down, or shipped out
Fordow
- Converted to research facility for stable isotope production with Russian cooperation
- 1,044 IR-1 centrifuges in six cascades will remain here, 328 for production, the remaining 700 are idle
- For 15 years no introduction of uranium at the facility
Advanced Centrifuge Research and Development
- For 8.5 years Iran may conduct research with uranium on a single IR-4, IR-5, IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuge at Natanz
- After 8.5 years test up to 30 IR-6s and 30 IR-8s
- After 8 years manufacture up to 200 IR-6s and 200 IR-8s centrifuges without rotors
- For 10 years Joint Commission review and approval of changes to the research and development plan
Arak Reactor
- Remove and disable the original core of the Arak reactor
- Replace the core of the Arak reactor to reduce weapons-grade plutonium output, certified by the Joint Commission
- For 15 years no reprocessing of spent nuclear fuel with an intention to never reprocess
- Permanent commitment to ship out spent nuclear fuel
- For 15 years no heavy-water reactors in Iran
- For 15 years no accumulation of heavy water in Iran
- Construction of hot cells or shielded glove boxes of certain specifications subject to approval of the Joint Commission
They had Uranium at 60% enriched. That means they could have made a dirty bomb and it doesn't take very long to get to a nuclear bomb from there. So obviously Obama and Biden both failed. That ends that debate.
So I’m supposed to take the word of Donny’s Stooge who also happens to be the chief author of the document? Shocking he thinks it’s a good deal. lol Make America GULLIBLE Again. You take the prize, Gunny. I’ll do my own research and take the word of respected Senators, Congressman and others who think this is a bad deal. And it is.
Precisely! If these whinny Leftists want to evaluate each deal side-by-side regarding the bottom line, ie: Iran's pursuit of a Nuke, (they won't btw) Trump's MoU wins hands down and it's not even arguable.
Hold on, buckaroo. Wasn’t it just a year ago that we were told by King Donny that our bombing raids destroyed their uranium enrichment capabilities. Was he lying?
You Leftists are so pissed over Trump nailing down this MoU, you can't even cry anymore!
@ChucktownWillie ....offering his substitute for crying
I can’t but Senator Cruz sure can and he did. Apparently they get TENS of BILLIONS of dollars BEFORE they make any concessions. I guess that blows up your myth that they only get money if progress is made. Shocking that you didn’t know that. Not really.Can any one of you malcontents and whiners on the Left upset over this Trump Iran MoU tell us exactly when Iran is supposed to get the "300 billion dollars" and access to their frozen accounts you all are whining about?
Under the toothless JCPOA, they got billions in cash stacked on pallets moments after ink of the phony deal was even dry!
*(from AI sources)
Iran began receiving financial benefits immediately after the JCPOA took effect on January 16, 2016.
The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)
See 1:37 mark for MAGA Senator Cruz’s comments.
Vance defends deal with Iran
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Iran could ‘access’ $300B for rebuilding under US deal — funded by Gulf states
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Iran is poised to attract up to $300 billion in investments from the very Gulf states it targeted with drones and missiles throughout the more than three-month war — if it can get its act together, Vice President JD Vance said. While the vice president made clear that the funds — meant for Iran’s reconstruction — will only be paid upon Iran meeting certain requirements.
“Iran has agreed to never have a Nuclear Weapon! Also, the story that the U.S. is paying Iran 300 million Dollars is Fake News, put out by the Dumocrats!!!” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform, concluding the post with “President DJT.”
Trump says $300B fund to rebuild Iran is ‘Fake News’
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- Vice President JD Vance defended President Donald Trump's interim peace deal with Iran at a White House news conference.
- Vance said the United States is not paying the Islamic Republic and that any economic benefits for Iran depend on full compliance with the agreement. "The United States isn't giving up a cent of money to Iran," Vance said. "The only way the Iranians get any of these resources ... is if they comply fully" with the terms of the deal, Vance said.
Iran could ‘access’ $300B for rebuilding under US deal — funded by Gulf states
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Iran is poised to attract up to $300 billion in investments from the very Gulf states it targeted with drones and missiles throughout the more than three-month war — if it can get its act together, Vice President JD Vance said. While the vice president made clear that the funds — meant for Iran’s reconstruction — will only be paid upon Iran meeting certain requirements.
“Iran has agreed to never have a Nuclear Weapon! Also, the story that the U.S. is paying Iran 300 million Dollars is Fake News, put out by the Dumocrats!!!” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform, concluding the post with “President DJT.”
Trump says $300B fund to rebuild Iran is ‘Fake News’
To anyone on the Left who thinks this MoU is a "bad deal" for the US...why?
A few simple "yes" or "no" answers should solve this question for you.
Does Iran "gain" anything Militarily in this deal? (ie: a Nuclear weapon, bigger missiles, a better Air Force, stronger Navy etc?)
Ans: NO
Does Iran "win" anything with this deal? (ie: new territorial control, management of traffic through the straight of Hormuz, control over Israel, more power in Gulf region?)
Ans: No
Does Iran "accomplish" anything with this deal (ie: gains more respect with the Arab world, better access to the free flow of oil traffic in the straight of Hormuz, establishing itself as the new peace maker in the Middle East?)
Ans: No
By contrast, apply those same questions to the US... on each question you honestly have to answer "Yes"
So once again, exactly what's so bad in this deal for the US?
I can't think of a damn thing!
They know that DJT...that's why they're so mad!
A few simple "yes" or "no" answers should solve this question for you.
Does Iran "gain" anything Militarily in this deal? (ie: a Nuclear weapon, bigger missiles, a better Air Force, stronger Navy etc?)
Ans: NO
Does Iran "win" anything with this deal? (ie: new territorial control, management of traffic through the straight of Hormuz, control over Israel, more power in Gulf region?)
Ans: No
Does Iran "accomplish" anything with this deal (ie: gains more respect with the Arab world, better access to the free flow of oil traffic in the straight of Hormuz, establishing itself as the new peace maker in the Middle East?)
Ans: No
By contrast, apply those same questions to the US... on each question you honestly have to answer "Yes"
So once again, exactly what's so bad in this deal for the US?
I can't think of a damn thing!
They know that DJT...that's why they're so mad!
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No it's not. You have been caught in a lie. Keep on crying little girl. Stock market is higher and gas prices are lower under Trump than it was under Biden and you are mad about it.
Imagine how he and his miserable friends on the Left will feel after their worthless loser Socialist party gets wiped out in the mid terms?
Hold on, buckaroo. Wasn’t it just a year ago that we were told by King Donny that our bombing raids destroyed their uranium enrichment capabilities. Was he lying?
I can’t but Senator Cruz sure can and he did. Apparently they get TENS of BILLIONS of dollars BEFORE they make any concessions. I guess that blows up your myth that they only get money if progress is made. Shocking that you didn’t know that. Not really.
See 1:37 mark for MAGA Senator Cruz’s comments.
Senator Cruz also said you hang out in rest area restrooms looking for a good time. Was he right about that too?
Uhhh...Military has been destroyed. Nuke capabilities set back by decades and not even close to building weapons thanks to Trump burying them with bombs. They haven't the capacity to get it anymore. Did you miss Iran being bombed into oblivion?
But the wrong place to peddle lies
I see a lot of mental gymnastics to try to defend it. Nevertheless, I’m not sure it matters - not confident we make it through 60 days with the Israel/Hezbollah situation.
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Interesting. Ever heard of Operation Midnight Hammer? Almost a year to the day on June 22, 2025. This was Donny's comments (lies) back then.
President Trump said the strikes "completely and totally obliterated" Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities; a final bomb damage assessment of the strikes was still ongoing as of August 2025. A July 2025 Pentagon assessment found that Iran's nuclear program was likely set back around 2 years.[4]
How do you want him to handle Iran. The facts are the way Obama/Biden handled it got them to 60% enrichment of Uraniam. Can you give possible locations of where that Uraniam was minded from? For 47 years Iran and it's proxies have conducted violence all over the middle east and the world and even Republican Presidents did little to stop it.
Trump has finally done something about it from their presence in South America all the way back to Tehran. He has done that while Democrats have fought against him every step of the way.
Going forward nothing will be 100% smooth as we are dealing with terrorist that constantly lie. We will verify and take action when they don't comply.
So far he has accomplished alot and we didn't land hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground to become targets. How about you give the TDS a rest for awhile and actually root for our a country in hopes this works out. If the Democrats were in charge they would be implementing a draft right now and lowering the standards where your *** would even be qualified. Despite everyone else knowing mentally ill Transgenger individuals shouldn't be in the military.
JUST IN: President Trump says he's going to "PLAY OUT" the next 60 days with Iran, who won't get "TEN CENTS" from America "How stupid can some people be???" "We didn’t meet out of desperation, Iran did. They are FINISHED! We’ll play out the 60 days. They get no money, not ten cents!" "The War has diminished Iran! It doesn’t, any longer, have an Air Force, a Navy, Antiaircraft Equipment, Radar, or practically anything else, and yet the Dumocrats say that Iran is better off now than it was four months ago. Can you imagine getting away with that???"