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rutgersal_rivals139582

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The prerequisite to being a champion is Money, lots of it. Show me a championship team, and I’ll show you the boosters who made it happen. While we don’t have whales, but we do have enough alumni in a 600K strong alumni base who can give enough to make it happen.

For us to be champions, we need 1,000 boosters to pony up $100K one time for a Fieldhouse. Rutgers will bond the rest, per Schiano’s first contract. We also need 1,000 boosters to pony up $20K a year for NIL support. This is more critical than the Fieldhouse investment, if we have to prioritize.

Miami has 14 4⭐️ or 5⭐️ recruits because they have Money. Ohio State has similar numbers.
We have one,because currently, our value proposition isn’t strong enough to entice the best recruits.

we have to donate more, to catch up to our big ten peers, who have been donating for generations. It will take 4 years of consistent support to be a contender. That roughly how long it took Miami.
 
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I figure it'll take a tripling of RU's current fanbase.
Not sure what that will cost.
 
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When you run a weird, atavistic, self-crippling "condom offense" more money wont fix it.
RU's red zone scoring percentage (TDs and FGs) last season was ranked 105th out of 135
Great WRs and RBs with a decent QB and RU red zone was (as usual) not competitive.
Its bewildering how many fans dont see the problem and keep blaming money.
RU would lose with Indiana's 2025 players and Indiana could still win with with RU's

A great Bum Philips quote (about Bear Bryant) that doesn't fit GS

"He can take his'n and beat your'n, or he can take your'n and beat his'n"


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NickRU714

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Al in every thread:
NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT NEEDING MORE MONEY! EVERYONE KEEPS THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND!

Then starts a new thread about money every week.
 
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Bueller said:
When you run a weird, atavistic, self-crippling "condom offense" more money wont fix it.
RU's red zone scoring percentage (TDs and FGs) last season was ranked 105th out of 135
Great WRs and RBs with a decent QB and RU red zone was (as usual) not competitive.
Its bewildering how many fans dont see the problem and keep blaming money.
RU would lose with Indiana's 2025 players and Indiana could still win with with RU's

A great Bum Philips quote (about Bear Bryant) that doesn't fit GS

"He can take his'n and beat your'n, or he can take your'n and beat his'n"


College Football Stats - College FB Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TDs and FGs) | TeamRankings.com

College Football red zone scoring percentage (tds and fgs), by team.
www.teamrankings.com www.teamrankings.com
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I actually heard that statement about Ara Parseghian back when he was coaching Northwestern, prior to his moving on to Notre Dame. It was probably true of both Ara and Bear. And of course Cignetti.
 
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Of course, if everybody donates more, RU will be on equal footing, because all of the donors to other B1G programs are going to stop donating. 🙄
 
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Caliknight said:
What will it take to kill DeadbeatAl from the board?
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Bury him under the cornerstone of the New Field House, if he agrees to be part of what he claims will bring a championship to Rutgers
If Jimmy Hoffa can be buried under the cornerstone of Giants Stadium , Al deserves the same type of honor , though I doubt Jimmy wanted any part of the new Giant Stadium 😁
 
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We do have a top 10 alumni base nationally. Little was done to cultivate alumni for most of those years and little to no athletic success to build off of. RU has been in the B1G for a little over ten years. To Al's point though, is it realistic to find 1,000 alumni to donate $10,000/year. that is $10,000,000. With that $$ RU could be top 15 in almost every olympic sport. That 10 mil could fund the scholarships and NIL needed to not just level the playing field, but put us in the lead. Football and basketball need a whale like Mike Repole at St Johns, or Cody Campbell at TT.

My $10K, or Al's 10K, or anyone reading this's $10K doesn't put a dent in anything, but collectively it can make a difference. I don't want to put up 10K, without knowing if it will make a difference. How about a RU1000 Club? I'll make the pledge, but it doesn't become active until 999 others make the same. We have thousands of football and basketball season tkt holders. Are there 1,000 people out there willing to make that pledge? That's grass roots making a difference.
 
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I guarantee Al is one of those guys in the staff meeting that causes all the other people to groan or roll their eyes whenever he starts talking. They may even be at the point where as soon as he starts talking the boss says oh sorry Al we have to wrap it up, hold that thought for next time and everyone starts walking out before he can finish his sentence
No matter how much we raise from our fanbase it will never be enough because the big boys will just up the ante. Without a whale it’s not happening so let’s put a lid on it, read the room Al
 
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newell138 said:
I guarantee Al is one of those guys in the staff meeting that causes all the other people to groan or roll their eyes whenever he starts talking. They may even be at the point where as soon as he starts talking the boss says oh sorry Al we have to wrap it up, hold that thought for next time and everyone starts walking out before he can finish his sentence
No matter how much we raise from our fanbase it will never be enough because the big boys will just up the ante. Without a whale it’s not happening so let’s put a lid on it, read the room Al
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I’m mostly with you, but I think he’s the guy who starts to make some asinine point 10 seconds before it becomes obvious the meeting is about to end. And then you’re there for another 20 minutes for no damn reason.
 
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ClassOf02v.2 said:
I’m mostly with you, but I think he’s the guy who starts to make some asinine point 10 seconds before it becomes obvious the meeting is about to end. And then you’re there for another 20 minutes for no damn reason.
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your analysis skills are very poor.

I run organized and efficient meetings bringing together people with diverse skill sets to solve big problems. Figure out how you can one day do the same, so that you can meaningfully support the football program , joining the rest of us doing our best to bring in a Top 10 Class rather than the #37 class, because there are not enough fans to meaningfully support Rutgers value proposition.
 
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NickRU714

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WAIT!!

We need more money??
Since when??
Why has nobody ever said this before or started a thread in it?

Does AD Zinn know?
Someone needs to make her aware of this shocking revelation.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582

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SF88 said:
We do have a top 10 alumni base nationally. Little was done to cultivate alumni for most of those years and little to no athletic success to build off of. RU has been in the B1G for a little over ten years. To Al's point though, is it realistic to find 1,000 alumni to donate $10,000/year. that is $10,000,000. With that $$ RU could be top 15 in almost every olympic sport. That 10 mil could fund the scholarships and NIL needed to not just level the playing field, but put us in the lead. Football and basketball need a whale like Mike Repole at St Johns, or Cody Campbell at TT.

My $10K, or Al's 10K, or anyone reading this's $10K doesn't put a dent in anything, but collectively it can make a difference. I don't want to put up 10K, without knowing if it will make a difference. How about a RU1000 Club? I'll make the pledge, but it doesn't become active until 999 others make the same. We have thousands of football and basketball season tkt holders. Are there 1,000 people out there willing to make that pledge? That's grass roots making a difference.
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It’s a numbers game and you need numbers to make it work. Scale is needed. This is what Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Penn State have and what we’re working towards. 1K giving 10K is the minimum needed just be competitive. 20K would allow us to bring in a class as good as any other.
 
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I'm no longer reading his crap. Richie must keep him because he generates traffic but most others would be given TO's for posting the same thing over and over and over and over again.
 
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SF88 said:
We do have a top 10 alumni base nationally. Little was done to cultivate alumni for most of those years and little to no athletic success to build off of. RU has been in the B1G for a little over ten years. To Al's point though, is it realistic to find 1,000 alumni to donate $10,000/year. that is $10,000,000. With that $$ RU could be top 15 in almost every olympic sport. That 10 mil could fund the scholarships and NIL needed to not just level the playing field, but put us in the lead. Football and basketball need a whale like Mike Repole at St Johns, or Cody Campbell at TT.

My $10K, or Al's 10K, or anyone reading this's $10K doesn't put a dent in anything, but collectively it can make a difference. I don't want to put up 10K, without knowing if it will make a difference. How about a RU1000 Club? I'll make the pledge, but it doesn't become active until 999 others make the same. We have thousands of football and basketball season tkt holders. Are there 1,000 people out there willing to make that pledge? That's grass roots making a difference.
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#6 actually

Rutgers needs a top down approach that begins with Freshman. Need to build a familial approach to attending school and camaraderie support.

the administration needs a total war footing to align all resources to push for athletic success. Winning needs to be the culture,
 
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RUTGERS95 said:
#6 actually

Rutgers needs a top down approach that begins with Freshman. Need to build a familial approach to attending school and camaraderie support.

the administration needs a total war footing to align all resources to push for athletic success. Winning needs to be the culture,
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Agreed
 
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RUTGERS95 said:
#6 actually

Rutgers needs a top down approach that begins with Freshman. Need to build a familial approach to attending school and camaraderie support.

the administration needs a total war footing to align all resources to push for athletic success. Winning needs to be the culture,
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My friends son is currently at another state school. Mom and Dad are RU grads. Local NJ residents. Kid wanted Rutgers. National Honor Society. Capt of the football team. Peer mentor. Several jobs. I understand not every kid can be admitted, but this kid will be successful in life, he's already shown it. This is a kid who would have continued the RU legacy and whose family is involved and supportive of RU. Sometimes you have to look past just the numbers. Legacy should matter. Generational RU families are often the most supportive.
 
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SF88 said:
My friends son is currently at another state school. Mom and Dad are RU grads. Local NJ residents. Kid wanted Rutgers. National Honor Society. Capt of the football team. Peer mentor. Several jobs. I understand not every kid can be admitted, but this kid will be successful in life, he's already shown it. This is a kid who would have continued the RU legacy and whose family is involved and supportive of RU. Sometimes you have to look past just the numbers. Legacy should matter. Generational RU families are often the most supportive.
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Rutgers just doesn't care about legacy or the view provided. A real shame and RU admissions goes out of it's way to diversify the population at the expense of qualified kids.

generational families provide more monies to schools, RU doesn't get it
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
your analysis skills are very poor.

I run organized and efficient meetings bringing together people with diverse skill sets to solve big problems. Figure out how you can one day do the same, so that you can meaningfully support the football program , joining the rest of us doing our best to bring in a Top 10 Class rather than the #37 class, because there are not enough fans to meaningfully support Rutgers value proposition.
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You mean my analytic skills? Not “analysis skills.”

With all due respect Al, if your professional behavior is even 10% of the persona you present on these boards, I can guarantee you are an ineffective leader.

I’m actually your target audience. I have already figured out how to be successful. I donate plenty of money to many causes. Some to RU, but also to pediatric cancer organizations, animal welfare groups, organizations supporting our police & veterans. Could I give more to RU? Yes, I could. Will I? It depends on what I see from Tate & Zinn. Early indications are looking good, but I need to see some tangible results/successes before blindly throwing more money at the department.

One thing I can promise you. Your approach turns me off. It does not inspire or motivate me to do a single additional thing. It’s the complete opposite of what an effective leader and fundraiser should do.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582

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NickRU714 said:
WAIT!!

We need more money??
Since when??
Why has nobody ever said this before or started a thread in it?

Does AD Zinn know?
Someone needs to make her aware of this shocking revelation.
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You typed a lot to say nothing.

This is the #1 issue confronting Rutgers football and the biggest reason we have the #37 class . Nothing else matters, Nick. Rutgers Football will not be competitive without adequate financial support
 
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DJ Spanky said:
You being sacrificed at midfield on Homecoming, with your still beating heart being torn from your chest and burned in a brazier as an offering to the gods.
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I have the Clown on Ignore but I think who you are talking about. Back to his “look at me” posts.
 
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RUTGERS95 said:
Rutgers just doesn't care about legacy or the view provided. A real shame and RU admissions goes out of it's way to diversify the population at the expense of qualified kids.

generational families provide more monies to schools, RU doesn't get it
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Yup, extremely true.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582

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ClassOf02v.2 said:
You mean my analytic skills? Not “analysis skills.”

With all due respect Al, if your professional behavior is even 10% of the persona you present on these boards, I can guarantee you are an ineffective leader.

I’m actually your target audience. I have already figured out how to be successful. I donate plenty of money to many causes. Some to RU, but also to pediatric cancer organizations, animal welfare groups, organizations supporting our police & veterans. Could I give more to RU? Yes, I could. Will I? It depends on what I see from Tate & Zinn. Early indications are looking good, but I need to see some tangible results/successes before blindly throwing more money at the department.

One thing I can promise you. Your approach turns me off. It does not inspire or motivate me to do a single additional thing. It’s the complete opposite of what an effective leader and fundraiser should do.
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Analytics is used to predict the future. Analysis draws conclusions from what happened in the past.

As for your comments, I don’t care because you’re just another insincere talker. What We need are doers.
 
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SF88 said:
My friends son is currently at another state school. Mom and Dad are RU grads. Local NJ residents. Kid wanted Rutgers. National Honor Society. Capt of the football team. Peer mentor. Several jobs. I understand not every kid can be admitted, but this kid will be successful in life, he's already shown it. This is a kid who would have continued the RU legacy and whose family is involved and supportive of RU. Sometimes you have to look past just the numbers. Legacy should matter. Generational RU families are often the most supportive.
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Isn't it true that following his HoF career, Mike Teel's sibling was denied admission to Rutgers? Sometimes common sense tells you to make a few exceptions.
 
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NickRU714 said:
Al in every thread:
NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT NEEDING MORE MONEY! EVERYONE KEEPS THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND!

Then starts a new thread about money every week.
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Once I win the lottery or strike oil on my farm we’re all set. Good times just around the corner.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582

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LeapinLou said:
Isn't it true that following his HoF career, Mike Teel's sibling was denied admission to Rutgers? Sometimes common sense tells you to make a few exceptions.
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Rutgers doesn’t consider legacy admissions at all.
So many kids of grads are going to Rowan, Penn State, and elsewhere.
 
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