You know, aside from the seemingly perfect answer of not allowing a player who has admittied to gambling on his own sport and his own team to participate on YOUR team....aside from that answer, there's no perfect answer.
Good news everybody, Texas Tech has reviewed everything and says there's no perfect answer to the Sorsby situation
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I used to think that school was the most "normal" one in Texas. After being around it on very personal level the last few years . . . just yikes!
This is all hilarious. First, the moral high ground of so many. I do not care about this at all.
Then, picking on Texas Tech. If this was going on at Texas, there'd be a completely different tone to it.
I personally don't care either way, but they are being treated how MSU would likely be treated in the same scenario.
Then, picking on Texas Tech. If this was going on at Texas, there'd be a completely different tone to it.
I personally don't care either way, but they are being treated how MSU would likely be treated in the same scenario.
What a ridiculous argument claiming they're trying to help a sick kid get clean.
I do, personally, see addicts as being sick and in need of treatment and that they don't deserve harsh judgment if they're willing to make moves towards recovery. I also know that if you're trying to help an addict recover, you MUST take them out of the environment that makes it easiest to re-offend. This is like taking an alcoholic to a frat party as exposure therapy - what would be more tempting to a college QB who bet on his own games than letting him play in more games in an era where we have wall to wall gambling ads across tv and in the stadium?
This also opens the door to some really, really bad precedent - would a player caught gambling on a Saturday afternoon be allowed to admit to addiction Saturday night, take a trip to a rehab facility on Sunday, and then be back at practice on Monday all because they're sick and sorry? Consequences for actions MUST occur before trust can be extended again.
The entire sports world is against Texas Tech on this one. It doesn't matter what team you substitute in for TT, it would be the same result. It doesn't seem that bad to us regular folks because gambling is so mainstream now amongst fans. However, this is the one cardinal sin in sports, you just can not bet on your own sport, much less your own team. It compromises the game of any sport to the likes of WWE. This story is not going to go away. Any player that has ever been caught gambling on their sport has been banned for life.
The problem here is the billionaire booster, who is also chairman of the board of regents, has TT by the balls. TT AD would have already folded to the pressure of the immediate outrage if not for pissing of the billionaire feeding the program.
The problem here is the billionaire booster, who is also chairman of the board of regents, has TT by the balls. TT AD would have already folded to the pressure of the immediate outrage if not for pissing of the billionaire feeding the program.
Oddly enough, this was all part of his argument. His lawyers said the NCAA was being hypocritical by partnering with gambling websites and accepting gambling ad revenue, and then cracking down on an athlete who fell victim to the scourge of gambling.
Ok, he can rehab, sitting in the bleachers. Give him all the help that you wish, on his REHAB.
Whether that rebab takes or not, is irrelevant. Hell give him free tickets, move on.
This statement makes me want to cry..... Shat....
Whether that rebab takes or not, is irrelevant. Hell give him free tickets, move on.
This statement makes me want to cry..... Shat....
Hugh freeze say, "don't slander this man's addiction"
Gambling by the players threatens the integrity of the game, meaning it threatens the cash cow for everyone. No one is getting the vapors because this delinquent is throwing dice in a back alley.
What is really disturbing to me is Sorsby probably is not the only player doing this. Our own fans have questioned whether our players have money on their games...and who can say they aren't? The anti gambling apps on their phones didnt stop Sorsby.
One part of this not being discussed is Cincinnati. Reports say the Bearcats were informed of his gambling last Summer and chose to keep quiet until he transfered...then they sued him and threw him under the bus.
yea, that's the absolute shittiest thing about the AD's letter. Basically he's saying that they will only help him if he's eligible. The idea of helping him whether he's eligible or not is apparently so ridiculous an idea that it isn't even addressed. The fact that if he can't help them win, then they are going to tell him to go 17 himself is treated as so obvious it doesn't even need to be said.
It looks like mega booster chairman Cody Campbell is now trying to distance himself from this debacle:
"Texas Tech is in an impossible spot," Campbell wrote. "Deep down, they may have hoped the final ruling would remove the decision from their hands. Exhaust every option, support the player, let the process play out. And if he is ruled ineligible, accept it. That is the cleanest outcome for a program trying to balance loyalty, discipline, public pressure and competitive integrity."
"Texas Tech is in an impossible spot," Campbell wrote. "Deep down, they may have hoped the final ruling would remove the decision from their hands. Exhaust every option, support the player, let the process play out. And if he is ruled ineligible, accept it. That is the cleanest outcome for a program trying to balance loyalty, discipline, public pressure and competitive integrity."
Let's be real here. If this was a marginal player he would be a distant memory already at TT so this song-and-dance altruistic motive of just trying to hep' a kid recover is BS. It also strikes a chord with so many other situations where a player is kicked off a team or a coach is fired for some universally accepted egregious transgression but somehow it is considered OK for that individual to just go somewhere else. For example, a player is kicked off the team for beating up his girlfriend but then it is no problem when he goes to the next school. Never quite understood that.
If this guy left TT and went to another school this wouldn't be anywhere close to as big an issue.
If this guy left TT and went to another school this wouldn't be anywhere close to as big an issue.
I agree but I am going to play devils advocate on this for a minute. Betting for your own team to lose or not cover is verbotten for obvious reasons but wouldn't those reasons be reversed if you bet on your team to win or beat the spread? I get it that this might change the way you play the game, that is you might keep your foot on the gas in a game already in hand but it could be argued that this is more of a problem for the casinos. Again, devils advocate argument. I think any direct involvement with gambling by sports leagues is not a good idea just based on the appearance factor alone and the NCAA should not be doing it even for advertisers.