Careful, posters on here really hate common sense.
Brendan Sorsby has a gambling problem. Texas Tech may have a QB problem
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Nots not point. A player being able to bet on team he is a member of is against the rules. Not sure why you guys this is alright?
Just out of curiosity... I wonder what the average college kid that bets football or otherwise, either wins or loses, percentage wise. 7-8 outta 10 lose more than they win? I'm kinda concerned about that generation and how much they gamble and how mainstream it is. Maybe it's always been more prevalent I than I realized, but it just feels like today, it's worse than when I was these kids age. I would bet a $10 4 teamer once in a while...But I get the feeling these kids are wagering hundreds of dollars a day in many cases
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Explain better, you pay as you wager? So if I understand correctly your saying a better bets $1000 on say Kansas to beat kst the old school was you called your bookie he places the bet and if Kansas loses he has to collect from me, but in today’s world you have to have the $1000 up front in order to place a bet. The only thing is the gambler could be borrowing money from a non credible source or loan shark so you still could have the same problem with throwing games or point shaving
What happens? We ***** and moan about the bad call and how it it "fixed" just like we do now.
Sure, but lots of things are against the rules and for some reason we are okay with it.
So for most of the betting apps you have to deposit money.
So you put in 200 dollars and that is all you have to wager with...
There's no sense in competing against a school that has no integrity. Tech knows serious rules were violated, but Tech thinks that Sorsby should be suspended after he's exhausted his eligibility and is no longer of any use to them. So they found a crooked judge.
Judge gives his own harsh sentence! Sit out the Abilene Christian game and the Oregon State game. Man that's tough. What about Sorsby's anxiety? Won't he be anxious if he doesn't get to play?
Well that is totally fine. But what about teams that have guys that have committed crimes (actual crimes)? Do you play them?
What about teams that steal signals, do you play them?
What about teams that clearly hold on every play, do you play them?
What about teams with recruiting violations, do you play them?
I am fine with it as long as they are doing it for those other reasons too.
NONE of us would have been okay with teams not playing NU after LP came back on the team and that was way worse than making some wagers.
#Integrity
So isn't it safe to say, that if they caught this kid and if we only know about some of his wagers...that there is a good chance that maybe like 50% of the guys on each team also place some bets?
Clearly he is not the only player, right?
If critical interceptions were proof of gambling, Avery Johnson must have had money riding on a bunch of games.
What a relentless blowhard.
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If/ when the participants and officials are allowed to bet on prop bets and the outcome of games it is no longer a competitive sport it is WWE where the outcomes are predetermined.
This is just a self-important gasbag picking yet another argument here. Then in no time he’ll curl up in the fetal position and squeal about being the victim of ad hominem attacks!!!
The NCAA has already proven that they would rather go after the small fish rather than the big fish. Look at North Dakota and their punishments for recruiting violations vs Michigan and North Carolina for their violations. If there were small fish, they would have gone after them rather than Sorsby.
So using that logic, 50% of the baseball players in MLB were betting on baseball when Pete Rose got caught?
I agree...but like you said, many fans already think that is the case. Because they are insane.
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And my guess is that even MORE than 50% of MLB players were gambling on baseball and/or other forms of gambling. Yes
Every time the pitchers would go out an golf on off days, they gambled. I am sure players always made "bets" about who would hit the most dongs or get the most strikeouts.
For me, yes. I am a totally lame small gambler. 5 dollars, 10 dollars. So over the course of a year it will get up a a couple hundred dollars and we will meet up and settle.
I do find it interesting that so many people think that the NBA (my god, the NBA lottery is something that almost all NBA fans think is rigged) and NFL are "scripted" yet millions watch on TV, attend games, and wager on those games.
One could reasonably argue sportsbooks are the ones with the most to lose if the integrity of the games is seriously in question, even moreso than the leagues themselves
as you accurately say, people may still watch fixed contests but nobody is going to the window to bet on one just to get ripped off
I wish I just knew which ones were fixed ahead of time! I would be happy to wager on the right side of a fix.
And you are correct. The sports books are the ones that have the most to lose and especially right now, those sports books are dumping MILLIONS into sports and sports entertainment.
Also, you can bet on the WWE, which is sick! I totally would have lost money on Hulk Hogan a few times.
Also, I don't care if he never plays again. I just find it comical that other teams are acting like they won't play TT because of their amazing "integrity" while they will also totally play agains teams that have legit criminals. And players/coaches that have broken all kinds of rules.
Maybe NFL teams should not play the Pats, because their head coach cheated on his wife...breaking a holy sacrament?
Maybe NFL teams should not play the Pats, because their head coach cheated on his wife...breaking a holy sacrament?
There are crimes, then there are crimes. Setting your cruise at 4moh over is a crime because you're now speeding. Big whoop. Rolling down your window and pointing a gun at another driver is also a crime. Both are crimes, but common sense prevails and we know which one is really a crime and which one is a shoulder shrug.
...so programs rhat play each other who are guilty of setting their cruise at 4 over is one thing, what TT is doing is the other.
My guess is most people see the difference and that's why this is such a polarizing issue. It's just unfathomable up to now, that a kid who did what this kid did, can play football again in college.
I also think he tanked his pro career now. Cannot see an NFL team ever touching this kid. He basically ruined his football life forever.
I don't think gambling is a crime, not in most states. Like, I don't think what he did is against the law, is it?
As far as I know, if the state allows it and if the person is 21, they can gamble. It is against the NCAA rules (like weed), but not against the law, right?
I agree that he will never play in the NFL now.
I don’t really care either way but rules do apply. Just because a state legalizes week. If your company mandates against it and you are tested and fail the test. The company can and most cases fire you even thought that state the company is in legalized recreational use .
100% agree.
But in his case, the courts are (sort of) ruled in his favor, for now. I don't think he will ever end up playing in college of the NFL. But I would love it if does just to see the meltdowns.
I was against Lawrence Phillips coming back and playing. TO's reasoning was weak and incorrect. I remember Tommy Frazier being quoted as saying, "We need Lawrence" (if we're going to win the National Title). And while obviously we could have beaten Florida without Lawrence, the point was that he shouldn't have played regardless.
As for the rest of your "What about" points, that is spot on. It's exactly how a bratty small child responds when they get in trouble. "What about Billy and Johnny? I wasn't the only one!" "OK but we're talking about you right now."
Maybe! But the only drug traffickers who get arrested on I-80 are the ones who get caught. If they get caught, they pay a price. (Unless they say have anxiety about the arrest or have a mental disorder of some sort. Then I believe our state patrol gives them a gift card for a free tank of gas and sends them down the road with a wave and a smile.)