OT: Mets 2026 Season Thread

yesrutgers01

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The whole damn team needs to be better. Soto shouldn't always be the guy to produce for the Mets.at least Soto is closer to earning his money compared to the rest. It seems like the others are stealing money from Cohen. 😂
Soto will be around .280 100+ runs 35+ HR 85-100 RBI and 25 SB.

dude earns every penny.
 

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This was perhaps your last worthless late night. I suspect you will have other worthless evenings.

While it may seem that way, Vientos is not a whiff machine. His K ratio (strikeouts per plate appearances) is currently 22.8%. This is only slightly above the league average of 21.9%. By contrast, MJ Melendez is at 33.3% and AJ Ewing at 31.8%, albeit smaller sample sizes.

Juan Soto is 14.9% Luis Arraez leads the league at 4.4%.
4 AB, 3 K. Whiff machine last night
 
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.500 road trip isn’t bad. A shame we lost the second game in SD, would have been nice to get a 4-2 west coast trip.

Benge’s swing reminds me somewhat of Bellinger’s swing.
 

Zak57

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It is, and don't want to be Debbie Downer, but Mets are 2 games behind the Marlins in last place.
I have a mini rant coming.

Am I wrong but don't you bemoan the Rutgers fan that is so whoa is me? You do the same with the Mets at times and I don't get it. You're a good fan so I don't know why you need to harp on certain stuff. The LOLMets and whining needs to stop with the supposed fans that populate the board here and in general. When the going gets tough they're all here to whine any cry but once some positives occur you don't hear a peep. I hate how negative this fan base gets. I know this isn't where we want to be but this is not even close to being over.

Team is 5 games out of a playoff spot which is nothing with 4 months left and there are a lot of positives. We do need Lindor back and soon though to add one of the best players in the game.
 

Doctor Worm

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Where the Mets stand in the divisional race is irrelevant. The divisional race is governed by the Ricky Bobby philosophy of "If you ain't first, you're last!" The Mets ain't first, and they ain't gonna be first. So we can put that aside.

What matters to the Mets is the wild card race. The Mets stand 13th in that race, out of 15. They need to get to 6th. They are five games out of 6th, which as Zak said is nothing. However, to get there they need to pass seven teams, which is not nothing

Over the last five years, to get to that coveted 6th spot (the final wild card) required win totals of 83, 87, 83, 89, and 83. Let's arbitrarily say that this year, the target number will be 86.

So... The Mets are currently 29-36, and need to get to 86-76. To do that, they would need to go 57-40 over the remainder of the season, a .588 pace. Extended over a 162 game season, that's a 95 win pace.

Is this Mets team good enough to play the remainder of the season at a 95 win pace? I don't think so, but my opinion doesn't matter. The only opinion that matters is that of David Stearns. He has eight weeks to answer that question. This in turn will answer the buy/sell/hold question that every franchise faces as July becomes August.
 

Zak57

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Where the Mets stand in the divisional race is irrelevant. The divisional race is governed by the Ricky Bobby philosophy of "If you ain't first, you're last!" The Mets ain't first, and they ain't gonna be first. So we can put that aside.

What matters to the Mets is the wild card race. The Mets stand 13th in that race, out of 15. They need to get to 6th. They are five games out of 6th, which as Zak said is nothing. However, to get there they need to pass seven teams, which is not nothing

Over the last five years, to get to that coveted 6th spot (the final wild card) required win totals of 83, 87, 83, 89, and 83. Let's arbitrarily say that this year, the target number will be 86.

So... The Mets are currently 29-36, and need to get to 86-76. To do that, they would need to go 57-40 over the remainder of the season, a .588 pace. Extended over a 162 game season, that's a 95 win pace.

Is this Mets team good enough to play the remainder of the season at a 95 win pace? I don't think so, but my opinion doesn't matter. The only opinion that matters is that of David Stearns. He has eight weeks to answer that question. This in turn will answer the buy/sell/hold question that every franchise faces as July becomes August.
The amount of teams above them do not matter. They will all play each other. Every season is different so we'll have no idea what win total they will need.
 

Colbert17!

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San Diego has lost 11 of their last 13 games.
Maybe the Mets just caught them at the right time.
May 18,19 and 20 the Padres played a three game series with the Dodgers. Each game of the three was played with first place on the line. Today they are 8 games behind. I know every team has injuries but they've lost 60% of their rotation and two of their nine everyday players.
Preller is so obsessed with having baseballs best bullpen that he seems to forget that you have to be ahead in the 7th inning to use it.
 

Knight Shift

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I have a mini rant coming.

Am I wrong but don't you bemoan the Rutgers fan that is so whoa is me? You do the same with the Mets at times and I don't get it. You're a good fan so I don't know why you need to harp on certain stuff. The LOLMets and whining needs to stop with the supposed fans that populate the board here and in general. When the going gets tough they're all here to whine any cry but once some positives occur you don't hear a peep. I hate how negative this fan base gets. I know this isn't where we want to be but this is not even close to being over.

Team is 5 games out of a playoff spot which is nothing with 4 months left and there are a lot of positives. We do need Lindor back and soon though to add one of the best players in the game.
I bemoan the reveling in misery of things past. For example, the fans that will not let go that men's basketball had Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey and didn't do well. It's been discussed to death-there were no other players to fill out that roster, and Pikiell had no NIL money bc the AD was doing yoga and other things with this gymnastics coach. As far as football, it's do or die this year. You can see the Poll thread and my comments there.
Sorry my post upset you, but the fact is the team is in last place by 2 games with an astronomical payroll.

I post positives too. I made the mistake of checking the standings after the win today. Shoot me for sharing.

Where the Mets stand in the divisional race is irrelevant. The divisional race is governed by the Ricky Bobby philosophy of "If you ain't first, you're last!" The Mets ain't first, and they ain't gonna be first. So we can put that aside.

What matters to the Mets is the wild card race. The Mets stand 13th in that race, out of 15. They need to get to 6th. They are five games out of 6th, which as Zak said is nothing. However, to get there they need to pass seven teams, which is not nothing

Over the last five years, to get to that coveted 6th spot (the final wild card) required win totals of 83, 87, 83, 89, and 83. Let's arbitrarily say that this year, the target number will be 86.

So... The Mets are currently 29-36, and need to get to 86-76. To do that, they would need to go 57-40 over the remainder of the season, a .588 pace. Extended over a 162 game season, that's a 95 win pace.

Is this Mets team good enough to play the remainder of the season at a 95 win pace? I don't think so, but my opinion doesn't matter. The only opinion that matters is that of David Stearns. He has eight weeks to answer that question. This in turn will answer the buy/sell/hold question that every franchise faces as July becomes August.
I almost stopped reading when you said they were 13th out of 15th.

Passing seven teams is a high hill to climb. And I agree with you that this team is too poorly constructed and hobbled with injuries to play the remainder of the season at a 95 win pace. I'll happily eat crow if we are wrong.
 

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May 18,19 and 20 the Padres played a three game series with the Dodgers. Each game of the three was played with first place on the line. Today they are 8 games behind. I know every team has injuries but they've lost 60% of their rotation and two of their nine everyday players.
Preller is so obsessed with having baseballs best bullpen that he seems to forget that you have to be ahead in the 7th inning to use it.
How is Manny Machado hitting .169 ?
 

Colbert17!

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How is Manny Machado hitting .169 ?
Even more alarming is that Jackson Merrill is hitting .202 with 6 HRs. Preller didn't rehire the hitting staff that was there for the past few years. As for Manny he's not even making solid contact. A lot of strike outs.
He'll be 34 next month and maybe that has something to do with it.
 

Zak57

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I bemoan the reveling in misery of things past. For example, the fans that will not let go that men's basketball had Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey and didn't do well. It's been discussed to death-there were no other players to fill out that roster, and Pikiell had no NIL money bc the AD was doing yoga and other things with this gymnastics coach. As far as football, it's do or die this year. You can see the Poll thread and my comments there.
Sorry my post upset you, but the fact is the team is in last place by 2 games with an astronomical payroll.

I post positives too. I made the mistake of checking the standings after the win today. Shoot me for sharing.


I almost stopped reading when you said they were 13th out of 15th.

Passing seven teams is a high hill to climb. And I agree with you that this team is too poorly constructed and hobbled with injuries to play the remainder of the season at a 95 win pace. I'll happily eat crow if we are wrong.
Your post didn't upset me. As I mentioned it wasn't a direct post to you because as you said you also post some positive stuff but I am getting sick of whoa is me Mets fan culture inside and outside of the fan base.
 
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willisneverrana43

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Manaea had another good outing, but I did notice a slight drop in his velocity. Nothing like the 4-5mph he had earlier this year. I'm hypersensitive to it, though, because it has been the difference between his being effective and stinking. It's good that the velocity drop seems to have been a mechanical issue.
 
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yesrutgers01

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I bemoan the reveling in misery of things past. For example, the fans that will not let go that men's basketball had Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey and didn't do well. It's been discussed to death-there were no other players to fill out that roster, and Pikiell had no NIL money bc the AD was doing yoga and other things with this gymnastics coach. As far as football, it's do or die this year. You can see the Poll thread and my comments there.
Sorry my post upset you, but the fact is the team is in last place by 2 games with an astronomical payroll.

I post positives too. I made the mistake of checking the standings after the win today. Shoot me for sharing.


I almost stopped reading when you said they were 13th out of 15th.

Passing seven teams is a high hill to climb. And I agree with you that this team is too poorly constructed and hobbled with injuries to play the remainder of the season at a 95 win pace. I'll happily eat crow if we are wrong.
Like yourself- I am still following my team every single night and almost every AB...And always hoping for a win. What happened yesterday is in the past now and this is the team we have. But sort of to your point- it is very hard to see what Stearns has promised us. Being a consistent winner. We are looking at the remainder of the season and just not seeing where this is going to come from.
And- being 6 games out, like you said- we are 13th out of 15th...the number of games out don't matter when you have to pass that many teams- and to top it- we have to go on a major run for the rest of the season - right now, as someone pointed out- we would have to start winning at a 95 win pace. if we go another week playing .500 or even a little over .500 - that pace actually goes up.

And it is hard to see that in our future.
 

Zak57

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Benge has been better than Nimmo at this point and Semien better than Mcneil who's completely cratered.

It's the first week of June not September, the number of teams in front of them means diddly squat as long as they can win themselves. That stuff takes care of itself.
 

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Like yourself- I am still following my team every single night and almost every AB...And always hoping for a win. What happened yesterday is in the past now and this is the team we have. But sort of to your point- it is very hard to see what Stearns has promised us. Being a consistent winner. We are looking at the remainder of the season and just not seeing where this is going to come from.
And- being 6 games out, like you said- we are 13th out of 15th...the number of games out don't matter when you have to pass that many teams- and to top it- we have to go on a major run for the rest of the season - right now, as someone pointed out- we would have to start winning at a 95 win pace. if we go another week playing .500 or even a little over .500 - that pace actually goes up.

And it is hard to see that in our future.
That was the esteemed @Doctor Worm who said 13th out of 15th. Mets have very little margin for error if they are to make a run. I'm normally an eternally positive person and fan, but this year has been a tough one--Normally I gotta believe, but lately it has been more like I gotta bereave. LFGM.
Nimmo and McNeil were sentimental favorites, and maybe time will tell that it was time to move on from them. Not sure on Pete yet, but those ships have sailed. As I noted above, I don't like to live in the past. What's done is done, and the focus is what can this team do moving forward.
 
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Benge has been better than Nimmo at this point and Semien better than Mcneil who's completely cratered.

It's the first week of June not September, the number of teams in front of them means diddly squat as long as they can win themselves. That stuff takes care of itself.
It doesn't matter to me, but Benge wasn't the player Nimmo was compared to or replaced. It was Semien for Nimmo, and indirectly, Robert Jr. McNeil was a throwaway by Stearns just because. Poloco was connected to Alonso.
 

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It doesn't matter to me, but Benge wasn't the player Nimmo was compared to or replaced. It was Semien for Nimmo, and indirectly, Robert Jr. McNeil was a throwaway by Stearns just because. Poloco was connected to Alonso.
No because you don't get Benge in the OF without moving Nimmo. You have to compare the collection of moves all together. I wouldn't want that Pete deal on the books unless he really starts taking off again. Still currently in the midst of his worst offensive year so we'll see.

Also moving Nimmo money to a lesser bad deal with Semien. Robert Jr was a gamble agreed especially since we gave up nothing. Bichette obviously has to start to produce like we know he can.

Lindor blowing his calf out who is always healthy has been the real suck so it's possible they dug themselves too big of a hole with that insanely bad April but still 4 months left to recover.
 

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Benge has been better than Nimmo at this point and Semien better than Mcneil who's completely cratered.

It's the first week of June not September, the number of teams in front of them means diddly squat as long as they can win themselves. That stuff takes care of itself.
The number of teams ahead of you DOES matter IMO, even in June.

Mets need to pass seven teams. I think we have to assume that at least one of those seven teams (don't ask me which one) will play very well for the remainder of the season. In which case the Mets will have to do even better.
 
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Doctor Worm

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As part of my Mets 60 year retrospective, we now go back 40 years to 1986. Since everyone in this thread knows about 1986, I will do something different. Let’s find out how well you know the 1986 Mets. 10 trivia questions. Call them out if you know them. No cheating!
  1. Who was the 1986 Mets opening day leftfielder?
  2. Name the Met rookie utility player who got a key hit in the WS Game 6 10th inning rally, and then was traded after the season. He went on to win the MVP a few years later. EXTRA CREDIT: State the reason why he reportedly was traded.
  3. What Met pitcher led the team in wins and ERA?
  4. This pitcher, a veteran of the bad days of the early 80’s, was injured in his only appearance in 1986. He was traded at midseason and retired after the following season. He then went to law school and became a baseball executive. Name him.
  5. On July 22, 1986, the Mets and Reds engaged in a brawl in which three Met players were ejected. They ran out of players and had to alternate Roger McDowell and Jesse Orosco between pitching and playing outfield. What Met player threw the first punch?
  6. Jerry Izenberg, a longtime friend of Rutgers, wrote a book “Greatest Game Ever Played” about a specific 1986 Mets game. Which game was it? (Hint: It was NOT the aforementioned July 22 game.)
  7. What was the name of the Houston nightclub at which four Mets got into a bar fight and spent the night in jail?
  8. Name the former Mets high-level pitching prospect who was the losing pitcher for the Red Sox in World Series games six and seven.
  9. This Mets fifth starter was the winning pitcher in WS game six. He was subsequently traded, became a closer, made three All-Star teams, and got a second ring. Name him.
  10. The Mets used four catchers in 1986. I’ll give you one - Gary Carter. You give me the other three.
Answers tomorrow!
 
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As part of my Mets 60 year retrospective, we now go back 40 years to 1986. Since everyone in this thread knows about 1986, I will do something different. Let’s find out how well you know the 1986 Mets. 10 trivia questions. Call them out if you know them. No cheating!
  1. Who was the 1986 Mets opening day leftfielder?
  2. Name the Met rookie utility player who got a key hit in the WS Game 6 10th inning rally, and then was traded after the season. He went on to win the MVP a few years later. EXTRA CREDIT: State the reason why he reportedly was traded.
  3. What Met pitcher led the team in wins and ERA?
  4. This pitcher, a veteran of the bad days of the early 80’s, was injured in his only appearance in 1986. He was traded at midseason and retired after the following season. He then went to law school and became a baseball executive. Name him.
  5. On July 22, 1986, the Mets and Reds engaged in a brawl in which three Met players were ejected. They ran out of players and had to alternate Roger McDowell and Jesse Orosco between pitching and playing outfield. What Met player threw the first punch?
  6. Jerry Izenberg, a longtime friend of Rutgers, wrote a book “Greatest Game Ever Played” about a specific 1986 Mets game. Which game was it? (Hint: It was NOT the aforementioned July 22 game.)
  7. What was the name of the Houston nightclub at which four Mets got into a bar fight and spent the night in jail?
  8. Name the former Mets high-level pitching prospect who was the losing pitcher for the Red Sox in World Series games six and seven.
  9. This Mets fifth starter was the winning pitcher in WS game six. He was subsequently traded, became a closer, made three All-Star teams, and got a second ring. Name him.
  10. The Mets used four catchers in 1986. I’ll give you one - Gary Carter. You give me the other three.
Answers tomorrow!
#10-I guessed David Stearns, which was wrong. I had to peak, and I hate to admit, I don't recall any of them! Good luck with the rest!!!
 

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I know some of those pretty quickly. Kevin Mitchell was the rookie, and Cashen thought he was a gang banger from San Diego and therefore a bad influence on Strawberry, but he was actually nothing like that. I'd guess Ojeda on ERA. Ray Knight, a golden gloves boxer, threw the first punch at Eric Davis (Straw's buddy). Calvin Schiraldi, was the former prospect. Rick Aguilera was traded. Not immediately sure on the catchers, but Ed Hearn was one. Oh, and big Ed Lynch was the early season pitcher who later became a lawyer. Cool guy. Oh, and the Houston place had a name like Hooters, but it wasn't that.
 
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I know some of those pretty quickly. Kevin Mitchell was the rookie, and Cashen thought he was a gang banger from San Diego and therefore a bad influence on Strawberry, but he was actually nothing like that. I'd guess Ojeda on ERA. Ray Knight, a golden gloves boxer, threw the first punch at Eric Davis (Straw's buddy). Calvin Schiraldi, was the former prospect. Rick Aguilera was traded. Not immediately sure on the catchers, but Ed Hearn was one. Oh, and big Ed Lynch was the early season pitcher who later became a lawyer. Cool guy.
Bravo. I didn't think anyone would remember Ed Lynch!
 

Doctor Worm

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Mets have activated Alvarez and he is in the lineup tonight, catching and hitting ninth. Senger down.

Also, Senga has been scratched from his scheduled rehab start, due to irritation in his pitching arm. Who knows when we will see him again.
 

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As part of my Mets 60 year retrospective, we now go back 40 years to 1986. Since everyone in this thread knows about 1986, I will do something different. Let’s find out how well you know the 1986 Mets. 10 trivia questions. Call them out if you know them. No cheating!
  1. Who was the 1986 Mets opening day leftfielder?
  2. Name the Met rookie utility player who got a key hit in the WS Game 6 10th inning rally, and then was traded after the season. He went on to win the MVP a few years later. EXTRA CREDIT: State the reason why he reportedly was traded.
  3. What Met pitcher led the team in wins and ERA?
  4. This pitcher, a veteran of the bad days of the early 80’s, was injured in his only appearance in 1986. He was traded at midseason and retired after the following season. He then went to law school and became a baseball executive. Name him.
  5. On July 22, 1986, the Mets and Reds engaged in a brawl in which three Met players were ejected. They ran out of players and had to alternate Roger McDowell and Jesse Orosco between pitching and playing outfield. What Met player threw the first punch?
  6. Jerry Izenberg, a longtime friend of Rutgers, wrote a book “Greatest Game Ever Played” about a specific 1986 Mets game. Which game was it? (Hint: It was NOT the aforementioned July 22 game.)
  7. What was the name of the Houston nightclub at which four Mets got into a bar fight and spent the night in jail?
  8. Name the former Mets high-level pitching prospect who was the losing pitcher for the Red Sox in World Series games six and seven.
  9. This Mets fifth starter was the winning pitcher in WS game six. He was subsequently traded, became a closer, made three All-Star teams, and got a second ring. Name him.
  10. The Mets used four catchers in 1986. I’ll give you one - Gary Carter. You give me the other three.
Answers tomorrow!
Was George Foster the LF?
 
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