Five in Five - What Might That Look Like?

WexfordWarrior

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Any chance this is an AI answer?
If not sure try this.
 

J.E.B

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Why didn’t they just leave it alone? Who are they trying to appease? You go to school and graduate in 4 yrs, maybe five. CoVid is over. You get 5 yrs to compete 4. What was f’ing wrong with that. College sports is a mess an absolute mess. I have completely lost interest in it. It’s sad.
 

Corby2

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Why didn’t they just leave it alone? Who are they trying to appease? You go to school and graduate in 4 yrs, maybe five. CoVid is over. You get 5 yrs to compete 4. What was f’ing wrong with that. College sports is a mess an absolute mess. I have completely lost interest in it. It’s sad.
Medical RS were allowing guys to stay 6-8 years
 

J.E.B

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+1 creates hard and fast rules. With NIL, NCAA is getting sued by countless athletes each off-season for more eligibility; this essentially kills that.
Cowards… save college sports! Set up “minor” leagues like Baseball. You looking for an education and some money, go to college. You want $$$ and just to play ball, go minor leagues.. insane. The NBA and NFL model (pay rookies on potential not performance) kills the sport as we knew it.
 

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Cowards… save college sports! Set up “minor” leagues like Baseball. You looking for an education and some money, go to college. You want $$$ and just to play ball, go minor leagues.. insane. The NBA and NFL model (pay rookies on potential not performance) kills the sport as we knew it.
How will you convince pro leagues to take on the expense of building a minor league system when they get it for free now? And that would only apply to basketball and football. Not gonna do a thing for any other sport. Lupert, Nicolls, and Richison are gonna keep doing what they do.
 

HOA242n!

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How will you convince pro leagues to take on the expense of building a minor league system when they get it for free now? And that would only apply to basketball and football. Not gonna do a thing for any other sport. Lupert, Nicolls, and Richison are gonna keep doing what they do.
I agree in theory, that minor leagues would solve this issue. But, as you said, NFL and NBA have zero incentive to invest in such a thing and it would completely kill the other sports. There's too much money in the current system for anything to really change.
 

El_Jefe

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Cowards… save college sports! Set up “minor” leagues like Baseball. You looking for an education and some money, go to college. You want $$$ and just to play ball, go minor leagues.. insane. The NBA and NFL model (pay rookies on potential not performance) kills the sport as we knew it.
The NBA has a minor league -- the Developmental League.

It contributes next to nothing -- an occasional last man on the bench -- because the NBA's salary structure (salary cap + guaranteed contracts) only enables development on the fringes.
 

mjmirv

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I wonder if this would cause someone like Jayden James (who graduated but isn’t 19 yet) to not enroll for a year to act as a redshirt?
 

GregPickel

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Not sure why anyone would say I will take 4 years over having 5.
Will the Mormon religion get a bunch of new members with the mission being to train at an RTC 🤷
Military and religious missions are exempt
Yeah, me neither. I’m sure there’s a lawsuit reason that’s in there but yeah, can’t think of why someone would use it.
 
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Corby2

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Universities have found NIL loopholes and my gut says they will find away here as well. Religious missions will definitely be used as a loophole
 

vhsalum

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Universities have found NIL loopholes and my gut says they will find away here as well. Religious missions will definitely be used as a loophole
Nah. Would have already been a problem. Mormon church plays no games with missions. You're going away and you're doing the work.

And most churches would be loathe to do something like that, as it could jeopardize their tax-exempt status.

Plus - why do that when you can still do a prep year?
 

HOA242n!

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Mormon church plays no games with missions. You're going away and you're doing the work.
+1 I know dozens of BYU (or committed to BYU) football players who went on missions. They got just as much "p-day" time as everyone else. Their allowed "training" was pickup basketball once a week at the local church and maybe some pushups first thing in the morning. Religious service may become a loophole, but it's unlikely to come in the form of LDS missions.
 

Lil Nicky Scarfo

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+1 I know dozens of BYU (or committed to BYU) football players who went on missions. They got just as much "p-day" time as everyone else. Their allowed "training" was pickup basketball once a week at the local church and maybe some pushups first thing in the morning. Religious service may become a loophole, but it's unlikely to come in the form of LDS missions.
They’re more likely to get an intestinal parasite than they are bigger and stronger due to extra training time
 

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Nah. Would have already been a problem. Mormon church plays no games with missions. You're going away and you're doing the work.

And most churches would be loathe to do something like that, as it could jeopardize their tax-exempt status.

Plus - why do that when you can still do a prep year?
I just used that religion because it's the common one where missions happen.
Any religion gets an exemption. That loophole will be interesting.
 

Corby2

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Nah. Would have already been a problem. Mormon church plays no games with missions. You're going away and you're doing the work.

And most churches would be loathe to do something like that, as it could jeopardize their tax-exempt status.

Plus - why do that when you can still do a prep year?
Clock would start doing a prep year wouldn't it
 

vhsalum

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Clock would start doing a prep year wouldn't it
Nope.

They changed the wording. eligibility starts when you enroll in college OR the fall after you turn 19.

Hockey, armed forces schools pushed back on original wording.

Plus you have the mega rich, who like to let kids take a year sabbatical and actual, real prep schools.
 

Corby2

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Not if they haven't turned 19. They made a subtle change to the proposal a little while ago to have it start with enrollment, rather than year after graduation, or year after 19th birthday - whichever comes first.
Yes for Hockey NHL got involved had a brain fart
 

Corby2

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Nope.

They changed the wording. eligibility starts when you enroll in college OR the fall after you turn 19.

Hockey, armed forces schools pushed back on original wording.

Plus you have the mega rich, who like to let kids take a year sabbatical and actual, real prep schools.
People will stop holding kids back now and use those years later
 

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The age-based model starts a student-athlete’s eligibility clock upon initial full-time enrollment in college or at the beginning of the academic year following their 19th birthday, whichever comes first.

So grey shirts are still on... Jayden James? Raney twins?
 
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Corby2

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The age-based model starts a student-athlete’s eligibility clock upon initial full-time enrollment in college or at the beginning of the academic year following their 19th birthday, whichever comes first.

So grey shirts are still on... Jayden James? Raney twins?
For guys who are not yet 19 yes they could do a gap year. It's gonna stop parents from holding kids back
 

vhsalum

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The age-based model starts a student-athlete’s eligibility clock upon initial full-time enrollment in college or at the beginning of the academic year following their 19th birthday, whichever comes first.

So grey shirts are still on... Jayden James? Raney twins?
Jayden could greyshirt, he's only 17.

Raney's are both 19 presently and could not grey shirt.