They are talking about a CFB Super League in Congress
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Glad they solved all of the other problems and were able to take on this.
Problem with the super league is that some of the teams that are the best and biggest may not always be. That's why the league/divison whatever it ends up being, should be the programs that are willing to commit a certain amount of rev share. That will obviously be contained to certain conferences because that's where it all comes from. That's the next step.
A true super league won't happen until years from now, when whoever the blue bloods are at the time see more value in playing each other, than competing with each other, and beating up on the MSU's of the world.
A true super league won't happen until years from now, when whoever the blue bloods are at the time see more value in playing each other, than competing with each other, and beating up on the MSU's of the world.
Is college football something that the Congress should be involved in?
If you want a set of rules that can be enforced, then anti-trust exemption needs to be granted. Congress is the only one that can extend anti-trust exemption. That is how the professional leagues can do what they do.
It’s better than being governed by random state courts.
1 super league of 72 teams, 8 divisions of 9 teams. It's almost like going back to the old smaller conference with balanced schedules, just all under the same umbrella.
Everyone would love it once it got going, just like the College Football Playoff itself, which had a lot of skeptics when it was just an idea.
Everyone would love it once it got going, just like the College Football Playoff itself, which had a lot of skeptics when it was just an idea.
I just don't see the Big 10/SEC giving up any power whatsoever. The P4, and ND, will separate, but the conferences will remain pretty much the same.
You know what's going to happen in a super league? Somebody's got to lose the games. Can't get the 20 best schools and they all still win 9-12 games a year.
As long as we get our revenue check, I don't care what they do.
However, I tend to think we're better served in the SEC.
It’s not about winning & losing games. It’s about the money. Texas Oklahoma USC & Oregon didn’t join the SEC & Big 10 to win games. They will lose more than where they were.
when Texas or Alabama wins three games in a super league one year it'll be about the winning and losing games. Somebody HAS to lose the games.
What’s the difference between Alabama winning 3 games in a super league and firing their coach, compared to Alabama winning 8 games in the current configuration and firing their coach?
End result is the same.
It’s rich hearing Saban complain about the system his actions produced.
Since they’ve got everything else running smoothly, I’m glad they were able to find something to occupy their time.
I was thinking the same thing. What would they have to do with any of this? Just to much Gov't .
There’s a fine line there.
When it stops being about winning it will fail. Because then it will be the NFL Lite which has never worked.
I HOPE that ND AD knows what I mean by that. I kinda think he does and that was his point.
No one would ever go for it, but you could do promotion and relegation with a super league and the number of teams just below the super league. Make it to where the bottom four teams in the super league go down in the four that finish at the top of the next step now move up to the super league and before any of you get your panties in a twist I’m just throwing that out there knowing that no one is going to go for that.
I would be OK with that as long as the Super League has at least 72 teams, preferably 80 or 88.
Texas and Texas A&M hold all the power long term in the SEC. Take a drive (I’m sure many of you have) across the South and into Texas. The economies are night and day. If Texas and/or Texas A&M ever decide they are fed up with the SEC and bolt for the big10… it’s completely game over for the SEC imo. It will at that point be a backwater conference with zero economic clout/pull. As to congress getting involved? Like someone said, better than being ruled by local courts. MSU I assume is very weak on this front compared to OM.
With the amount of money being pumped into their program… SEC may be wise to try to pull in Texas Tech. I don’t really expect the conference to be forward thinking about it though.
With the amount of money being pumped into their program… SEC may be wise to try to pull in Texas Tech. I don’t really expect the conference to be forward thinking about it though.
Make 4 coequal, self regulated, geographically advantageous college football conferences that meet up for a joint playoff championship. If that would take the monopoly argument away, good contract law can take the place of local and federal government meddling in football. Does anybody want Congress telling us how to run college football? What's next, NFL, NBA etc. are monopolies and not sharing the wealth?
Thank goodness we finally have a competent, well respected, sane, level headed, intelligent, responsive, accountable body tackling the biggest problem facing America as we move into the middle of the 21st century.
This will no doubt lead to a more fun and enjoyable recreational activity for the average college football fan.
If we're not involved in a Super League, I hope it's 24. That we we can watch a Blue Blood like Tennessee or Alabama turn into the Super League version of the Cleveland Browns.
With a 24 team Super League, it would mean over 40 members of the P4 were left out with us. So, the loss of prestige wouldn't be quite as dire and it would be competitive - sorta like a larger version of the Big 12.
He's not way off the mark or anything:
| Rank | Institution | Total Endowment (approximate) | Note / Scope |
| 1 | University of Texas at Austin | ~$47.4 Billion | Texas System-wide; UT Austin is the primary holder |
| 2 | Texas A&M University | ~$20.3 Billion | Texas A&M System-wide total |
| 3 | Vanderbilt University | ~$10.2 Billion | The conference's wealthiest private institution |
| 4 | University of Oklahoma | ~$2.95 Billion | Norman campus and related foundations |
| 5 | University of Florida | ~$2.45 Billion | Flagship institution |
| 6 | University of Missouri | ~$2.41 Billion | UM System-wide total |
| 7 | University of Alabama | ~$2.37 Billion | UA System-wide total |
| 8 | University of Georgia | ~$2.05 Billion | Flagship institution |
| 9 | University of Kentucky | ~$1.97 Billion | Flagship institution |
| 10 | University of Tennessee | ~$1.76 Billion | UT System-wide total |
| 11 | University of Arkansas | ~$1.66 Billion | Fayetteville flagship |
| 12 | Auburn University | ~$1.18 Billion | Flagship institution |
| 13 | Louisiana State University (LSU) | ~$1.13 Billion | LSU System-wide total |
| 14 | University of South Carolina | ~$1.04 Billion | Flagship institution |
| 15 | University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) | ~$925 Million | Flagship institution |
| 16 | Mississippi State University | ~$895 Million | Flagship institution |
I recognize endowment is not the end all be all factor but still. That is why it is difficult to really hone in on what a university/programs overall value/potential really is.
The pro leagues do not have anti-trust exemptions. They collectively bargain with their employees to avoid anti-trust litigation. They still have anti-trust issues in other areas of their businesses...except for baseball.
MLB was exempted from anti-trust rules by the Supreme Court in 1922. In the 90s, Congress actually REMOVED that exemption with respect to employee relations, but baseball remains exempt for other purposes thanks to an out-dated court decision.
If you would have told me 30 years ago that Mississippi State would have nearly a billion dollar endowment I would have laughed you out of the room. The fact that its last in the SEC is even more absurd.
And we can compete with our true peers (the bottom half of SEC, and the ACC & Big 12). Of course we’ll lose some tv money, but we’d still be getting $50M or so instead of $100M. We’d come out ok.
I think you have to look at the TV ratings. That's all a potential super league is going to care about, and I dont think the juice is worth the squeeze for the networks.
This is a three year average per game viewers in the regular season. Keep in mind that the AVERAGE NFL regular season game gets 18.7 million viewers. The Cowboys' Thanksgiving game got 57.2 million viewers. Ohio State-Michigan was the highest college game and got 18.4 million viewers, lower than the NFL average. Highest SEC game was 13 MM viewers for A&M-Texas and 12.6 MM watched Georgia-Tennessee for the highest traditional SEC.
1. Alabama (7 MM)
2. Georgia (6.2 MM)
3. Texas (5.8 MM)
4. Ohio State (5.7 MM)
5. Oklahoma (4.9 MM)
6. LSU (4.2 MM)
7. Michigan (4.2 MM)
8. Texas A&M (3.6 MM)
9. Ole Miss (3.3 MM)
10. Notre Dame (3.2 MM)
11. Florida (3.1 MM)
12. Miami (3.0 MM)
13. Tennessee (3.0 MM)
14. Oregon (2.9 MM)
15. Penn State (2.7 MM)
16. Florida State (2.4 MM)
17. Auburn (2.2 MM)
18. Vanderbilt (2.1 MM)
19. Georgia Tech (2.0 MM)
20. Missouri (2.0 MM)
21. Clemson (1.9 MM)
22. Indiana (1.9 MM)
23. Nebraska (1.8 MM)
24. South Carolina (1.7 MM)
25. USC (1.7 MM)
49. Mississippi State (773K)
Power 4 teams below us: Virginia, Michigan State, Arizona State, Rutgers, Stanford, NC State, Houston, Cal, Duke, Maryland, Kansas, Northwestern, Wake Forest, Oklahoma State, Purdue, Arizona, West Virginia, Baylor, UCF
G5 teams ahead of us: Army, Navy
This is a three year average per game viewers in the regular season. Keep in mind that the AVERAGE NFL regular season game gets 18.7 million viewers. The Cowboys' Thanksgiving game got 57.2 million viewers. Ohio State-Michigan was the highest college game and got 18.4 million viewers, lower than the NFL average. Highest SEC game was 13 MM viewers for A&M-Texas and 12.6 MM watched Georgia-Tennessee for the highest traditional SEC.
1. Alabama (7 MM)
2. Georgia (6.2 MM)
3. Texas (5.8 MM)
4. Ohio State (5.7 MM)
5. Oklahoma (4.9 MM)
6. LSU (4.2 MM)
7. Michigan (4.2 MM)
8. Texas A&M (3.6 MM)
9. Ole Miss (3.3 MM)
10. Notre Dame (3.2 MM)
11. Florida (3.1 MM)
12. Miami (3.0 MM)
13. Tennessee (3.0 MM)
14. Oregon (2.9 MM)
15. Penn State (2.7 MM)
16. Florida State (2.4 MM)
17. Auburn (2.2 MM)
18. Vanderbilt (2.1 MM)
19. Georgia Tech (2.0 MM)
20. Missouri (2.0 MM)
21. Clemson (1.9 MM)
22. Indiana (1.9 MM)
23. Nebraska (1.8 MM)
24. South Carolina (1.7 MM)
25. USC (1.7 MM)
49. Mississippi State (773K)
Power 4 teams below us: Virginia, Michigan State, Arizona State, Rutgers, Stanford, NC State, Houston, Cal, Duke, Maryland, Kansas, Northwestern, Wake Forest, Oklahoma State, Purdue, Arizona, West Virginia, Baylor, UCF
G5 teams ahead of us: Army, Navy
As the saying goes “he who has the gold makes the rules” could be applied directly to this. The state of Texas is like Michael Dell and Elon Musk… states to the east are like Jim Bob’s value Ford dealer of Collins, MS, and Joe’s Furniture Wholesalers etc… I bet you could put 10 state of Mississippi’s side by side and they wouldn’t even be in the same breath as just Dallas, TX. Texas and Texas A&M are hopefully overall happy being in the SEC and enjoying some exciting games and I do believe it could be a good match for long term. However, those two schools have all the chips in front of them and we basically have zero leverage in future discussions. We should be very thankful we are allowed to be part of it all.