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The Dust Has Settled: Stokes or Momcilovic?

Stokes or Momcilovic?

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JimboBBN

JimboBBN

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Did we land the better player to help next year's Kentucky basketball team? I think so. Stokes will be the better pro but I will give credit to a lot of posters here who said from the beginning they'd rather have MM. For what Mark Pope wants to do, and needs, we couldn't have landed a better player.

So, which player would you rather have gotten for next season?
 
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TheResistance

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This is really to be determined. Kansas having Peterson last year, gives us a comparison with Stokes, but we do not know how Stokes will approach college and coaching. He will be a banger and scorer but will he play defense, rebound, or disappear occasionally. Stokes has a much higher upside, but Momo really fits Pope's system better. So I think, after everything, UK MAY be better off. Only time will tell.
 
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UKCowboys

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Stokes may be better in the NBA, but for this season, this team, Momcilovic is better. We have a big in Moreno, a couple of guards who can get to the rim in Zoom and Wilkins, and now a guy who completely opens the floor and gives you a go to guy in Momcilovic. We have other shooters in Kam and McBride and rebound/shot blockers in N'Diaye and Kepnang. We will have a great, fun offense and our defense and rebounding should improve because this team is LONG
 
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berniecarbo

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TheResistance said:
This is really to be determined. Kansas having Peterson last year, gives us a comparison with Stokes, but we do not know how Stokes will approach college and coaching. He will be a banger and scorer but will he play defense, rebound, or disappear occasionally. Stokes has a much higher upside, but Momo really fits Pope's system better. So I think, after everything, UK MAY be better off. Only time will tell.
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only time will tell reminds me of Little Feat.

Well they say time loves a hero
but only time will tell
If he's real, he's a legend from heaven
If he ain't he was sent here from hell
 
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MdWIldcat55

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I'd much rather roll the dice with a guy who has proven it against Big 12 competition, who has established himself as a hard working, well-regarded teammate, and who PROVIDES THE ONE SKILL key to success, especially in Pope's system.

Kansas had the #1 high school recruit in the country last year in Darryn Peterson, and honestly that was a much, much stronger class, and Peterson appeared to be far more emotionally mature than narcissist Stokes. And what did it get them, despite also having the guy ranked #1 in the portal in Bidunga? The round of 32.

This truly is not the era to try to ride a freshman to great success. When Kentucky had AD and MKG, other teams also were counting on freshmen in key roles. Today, those freshmen are playing against teams with hand-selected 22-year old veterans of the wars in elite conferences.
 
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Dr.LutherSan

Dr.LutherSan

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Given the current roster and coaching staff, I think MM is a better fit. Our lead guards are ball-dominant and the coaching staff has never had a player like Stokes. Demarcus Cousins was a great player, but also had the potential to be a team cancer. However, UK had the right coaching staff to understand how to coach him and maximize his talent. I don't think the current staff has that ability.
 
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The Ganner

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I said from the beginning that I wanted Momcilovic more (but would have ABSOLUTELY taken Stokes rather than wait on Milan). I wasn't sure how Stokes would fit on a team with 2 ball dominant guards who are ok shooters. Momcilovic is exactly what we need on the team we already have assembled. Stokes may end up the better player this year, but that's no given - we've seen "elite" freshmen have their ups and down.
 
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Mdnerd

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Myself and many others thought Milan was the better fit on day 1. He felt more like a pipe dream though and we thought we had a legit shot at Stokes. Would have taken Stokes in a heartbeat.

For this coach and this system, Milan is light years better.
 
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Beatle Bum

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Stokes was a mistake. MilMom should have been a prime target from the get go. If getting Stokes meant being out on MilMom, then Pope and BBN had a huge stroke of luck.
 
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I think a potentially huge benefit is simply mindset and their situations

Milan - nagging injury, but still able to play, will likely play. Trying to earn his way into the NBA

Stokes - nagging injury, can play but doesn’t want to jeopardize his future, could potentially sit as we have seen with so many lottery picks/first rounders.

Do want to clarify that the young guys sitting with minor injuries isn’t necessarily the wrong decision. Totally get protecting their near future earnings.

With that said, if I’m an NBA exec, and I see a guy playing through injury, that’s a big positive in my mind.
 
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Pensacola_Cat_Fan

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I agree that we needed both to be top 10 caliber. But if you could only have one, Mom is a better fit for what we need for sure. Stokes with the other guys that we have could’ve been a poor fit. You know what you’re getting with Mom.
 
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DelkBowl

DelkBowl

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What it really comes down to is which player signed with UK and which signed with KU. Polls will always reflect this other worldly phenomenon.
 
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Mdnerd

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Beatle Bum said:
Stokes was a mistake. MilMom should have been a prime target from the get go. If getting Stokes meant being out on MilMom, then Pope and BBN had a huge stroke of luck.
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Had to go after Stokes. Bypassing him without knowing if Milan was even going to be available would have been really dumb.

All worked out the best for everyone in the end, no matter the road to get there.
 
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UKCowboys

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DelkBowl said:
What it really comes down to is which player signed with UK and which signed with KU. Polls will always reflect this other worldly phenomenon.
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Completely untrue. If it were Dybansta vs Trent Noah, it would be a shutout for Dybansta. Momcilovic is a better fit
 
CrimsonCats_rivals

CrimsonCats_rivals

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It’s hard to account for all the variables. It’s possible some other dominos in recruiting and the portal could have fallen differently if we landed Stokes, and who knows what that would have looked like.

If we’re just talking about swapping them one for one, Momcilovic is by far a better fit for this particular roster though. His elite shooting should pair much better with Diallo and Wilkins than trying to fit a third ball dominant guy into that mix.
 
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Dward13

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Milan is a huge get and I love the pickup. I wanted Stokes but it was out of desperation. There’s a lot of guys i preferred over him. I said back then he wasn’t as good as the freshman from this past season so I didn’t think he was going to ultimately be worth his asking price.

That said I don’t think this is a title roster and think we’re going to struggle to stay ranked. The back court is weak on defense. The front court is weak on defense and rebounding.

We shouldn’t have any problem scoring this year however and on paper it at least LOOKS like an upgrade over last season.
 
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MachineHead

MachineHead

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For Pope, it’s Momcilovic and it’s not close. Also, just strictly speaking from what I have seen, Stokes seems like a dbag of the highest order. As in, I really didn’t want to have to root for him.
 
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Beatle Bum

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Mdnerd said:
Had to go after Stokes. Bypassing him without knowing if Milan was even going to be available would have been really dumb.

All worked out the best for everyone in the end, no matter the road to get there.
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I would have never gone after Stokes if I was Pope. It did not have a good-fit feel. I think Stokes is a stud. I just think he is not a good fit for what Pope does. I know I am not alone with that opinion. I think people in the recruiting world tried to convey that sentiment to Pope but he clearly disagreed. I also wonder if Nike drove that somewhat. I may not have ended up with MilMom, but Stokes would have been a pass for me.
 
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