Will the Iran War End In June?

When will the Iran war (really) end? Your best guess.

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  • Not before the midterm voting starts.

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What Would Jesus Do?

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Zeihan explains why the answer is probably not. Do you agree"



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In this video, geopolitical analyst Peter Zeihan addresses the discrepancy between the Trump administration's claims of reaching an imminent deal with Iran and his own assessment that no substantive negotiations are currently taking place (0:00–0:40).

Key reasons for the lack of real progress include:
  • Erosion of Institutional Expertise: The Trump administration has largely dismantled the experienced bureaucracy within the State Department, with high-level negotiators like Michael Anton leaving their posts without replacements (0:41–1:45).
  • Lack of Qualified Representation: The administration relies on a very small, inexperienced team. Jared Kushner has largely exited the process, Steve Witoff reportedly knows little about the region or the subject matter, and Vice President JD Vance was reportedly outclassed during his only attempt at direct negotiations in Pakistan (2:26–4:30).
  • Outsourced Diplomacy: The United States is effectively relying on Ansom Maner, a powerful Pakistani military and intelligence figure, to serve as the intermediary with Iran. Zeihan argues that Maner is an unreliable proxy whose interests—often aligned with Gulf Arab states like Qatar—do not reflect American interests (4:49–6:35).
The Consequences:
  • Administrative Distraction: The White House is described as being focused on trivial matters rather than foreign policy strategy (6:35–7:00).
  • Market Impact: The Persian Gulf remains closed, with millions of barrels of oil offline. Global inventories are approaching record lows not seen since the 1973 oil crisis, suggesting a severe economic correction is on the horizon (7:46–8:35).
Zeihan concludes that while a confrontation in the Strait of Hormuz was historically probable, the current US leadership has acted as a primary triggering factor in this crisis (8:49–9:14).
 
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Trump Hits the Stalemate Phase of His International Interventions, and It Stings​

In Ukraine, Gaza and now Iran, President Trump’s early declarations of easy wins have given way to harsh reality.


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Summary: Trump’s Stalemate in International Interventions


Overview


President Trump’s early declarations of quick victories in Ukraine, Gaza, and Iran have stalled, revealing the limits of U.S. influence in shaping political outcomes abroad.




Key Stalemates


  • Iran
    • Trump declared a cease-fire on April 7, 2026, conditional on reopening the Strait of Hormuz—this did not fully materialize.
    • Iran’s nuclear and missile programs remain unresolved, with negotiations expected to drag on.
    • Trump’s initial military strikes did not force Iran to capitulate or abandon its uranium/missile programs.
  • Ukraine
    • Trump pledged to end the war in 24 hours; 16 months in, progress is minimal.
    • Russia seeks a stable diplomatic process, not episodic U.S. envoy visits.
    • Ukraine’s military gains (e.g., strikes deep into Russia) have not led to a breakthrough.
    • U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio expresses frustration with stalled negotiations.
  • Gaza
    • Trump’s 20-point plan (disarming Hamas, international stabilization, rebuilding Gaza) has not advanced.
    • Hamas remains armed; aid flows, but reconstruction and governance are stalled.
    • Israel has expanded military control over 70% of Gaza.



Underlying Issues

  • Overreach: Trump’s confidence in quick military/diplomatic wins clashes with complex realities.
  • Lack of Follow-Through: Trump prefers dramatic announcements over sustained diplomacy.
  • Misunderstanding of Power: U.S. excels at military strikes but struggles with political control in foreign nations.

Expert Perspectives

  • Richard Fontaine: Foreign policy requires long-term management, not just bold announcements.
  • Thomas Graham: Ukraine conflict is “ripe for conclusion,” but lacks a structured negotiating process.
  • Jake Sullivan: Trump’s tactics (bombing, blockades, bullying) have not forced Iran to concede.
 

tarheelbybirth1

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Really?

I almost thought about specifying in case someone couldn't figure it out. But that would have been insulting.
barack obama laughing GIF by Obama
 

Thefunksouljon

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No idea.

I can see a scenario where Trump gets so frustrated with all this bad news, he agrees to a totally crap deal and just says "I win!"
I can see a scenario where someone gets in his ear and he cancels any agreement because he feels like it was worse than Obama's.
I can see a very real scenario where some detail is leaked to Fox and someone on a Fox "news" show criticizes it and he tanks an agreement and this extends.


Is it possible for the US to just fade away into the back ground and ghost Iran?
 

Billanole.

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No idea.

I can see a scenario where Trump gets so frustrated with all this bad news, he agrees to a totally crap deal and just says "I win!"
I can see a scenario where someone gets in his ear and he cancels any agreement because he feels like it was worse than Obama's.
I can see a very real scenario where some detail is leaked to Fox and someone on a Fox "news" show criticizes it and he tanks an agreement and this extends.


Is it possible for the US to just fade away into the back ground and ghost Iran?
Ghost ‘em, by God. Brilliant!!
Can’t sign a bad agreement if you stay at the house. War, what war. Brilliant.
 
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I can see a scenario where Trump gets so frustrated with all this bad news, he agrees to a totally crap deal and just says "I win!"
I can see a scenario where someone gets in his ear and he cancels any agreement because he feels like it was worse than Obama's.
I can see a very real scenario where some detail is leaked to Fox and someone on a Fox "news" show criticizes it and he tanks an agreement and this extends.

Every one of those is plausible. And not one of them is the action of a statesman, or anyone who can be trusted with power.
 

Wobmam Rulez!

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War started in February. We're already in June. Maybe the war ends, but I can also see it stretching out just like Putin's war.
Alot of similarities. Both were a war of choice. And the countries that started them both had to create (lie) about the "why". Russia was going to de-nazi the crooked Ukraine. 'Merica was, whatever story Drumpf says. I think he's on like reason number 4.

Neither had any real strategic objectives or exit plans. And both country's citizens have suffered for the terrible leadership of each respective government.
 

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Trump, or someone close to him, must realize the massive losses the Radical Right will experience in the midterms if this excursion lasts much longer.
A Blue Tsunami neuters ShitStain's last two years.
He could never tolerate that.
I do agree that any "deal" probably ends up worse for Merica than the Obama one...but Trump will claim some victory.