ISU has won 3 of the last 4.I do not realistically see how they can compete with us. It will end up being something similar to us beating up UNI every single year if it continues.
ISU has won 3 of the last 4.I do not realistically see how they can compete with us. It will end up being something similar to us beating up UNI every single year if it continues.
Alabama, Auburn, and Texas have all done home and home's with Big 10 teams in the last 6 years.I remember a radio interview with Bowlsby I believe before he left, and Dolph asked him about scheduling and getting better opponents. He replied that he had talks with just about everybody P5 (whatever you want to call it back then) and it always boiled down to programs need home games, period - from a revenue standpoint because you never get as much money playing on the road as you do at home.
A school like Iowa (and pretty much all major schools), losing home games hurts the pocketbook.
If you're an SEC team, would you be willing to give up a home game? To play up at Iowa? Hell no. And TV $ isn't going to make that money up even if you do a neutral site. They'd LOVE to see Iowa travel down south, but them coming back up to Iowa? Nope, not happening.
I mean...you can also sit there and state today's overall TV money makes up for the loss...but why not have the TV money AND home game revenue?
I believe a 10th B10 conference game is much more likely - if the money is there to make it great for all schools. As for any other major conference, only some sort of contractual agreement between say the SEC and B10 that guarantees "scheduling fairness" as well as being 100% revenue fair for all schools would something like that be possible. I just don't see that happening unless say an Amazon throws out obscenely huge money - not impossible, but highly improbable. Do I want to see Iowa get some big names on the schedule? Sure. But again, if it were (snaps fingers) that easy, we'd have seen it by now.
Money is the issue - always has been, always will be. EVERY program wants more. And in today's financial climate, if you want to compete, you need simply "more".
NBC put the Iowa v Iowa State game in the evening on national TV.Alabama, Auburn, and Texas have all done home and home's with Big 10 teams in the last 6 years.
The game where we were up 13 - 0 at the half was the most infuriating loss.ISU has won 3 of the last 4.
NBC to the rest of the nationNBC put the Iowa v Iowa State game in the evening on national TV.
I put the over/under on threads before the ISU game even gets here at 15.5Thank goodness there's another thread on this. I was afraid that the subject wouldn't ever come up again....
To this point, they're actually trying to mandate that all P4 programs play at least 10 P4/major teams each season.Besides, we all know if the game went away, all we'd do is schedule a MAC cupcake or something similar almost every season.
They aren’t both in P4 conferences. Iowa is in the P2.As long as both are in a P4 conference, the game should be played every year.
Sometimes I feel like we need an eye roll emoji for this site.They aren’t both in P4 conferences. Iowa is in the P2.
And IF the B1G goes to a 10-game schedule?To this point, they're actually trying to mandate that all P4 programs play at least 10 P4/major teams each season.
Iowa would need to schedule another team from the B12, ACC, or SEC.
I believe there actually is a discussion between the two conferences about an annual SEC vs B1G series like the basketball one with the big eastSEC won't happen because of greed. B10? Maybe.
I'd believe the only chance of either occuring would be if a merger of sorts occurs between the 2 conferences.
Money, as always, will make the decisions on any/all of this.
Sometimes I feel like we need an eye roll for youSometimes I feel like we need an eye roll emoji for this site.
That hasn't been the case for several years now.Iowa is in a no-win situation playing this game. If they win, it’s viewed the same as beating a MAC team, which is simply expected. But if they lose, it’s treated like losing to a MAC team, making the downside far greater than the upside.
So, you agree with meSometimes I feel like we need an eye roll for you
You won't have to worry about that............And IF the B1G goes to a 10-game schedule?
Meh. Hasnt had any effect on them making or not making playoff.Iowa is in a no-win situation playing this game. If they win, it’s viewed the same as beating a MAC team, which is simply expected. But if they lose, it’s treated like losing to a MAC team, making the downside far greater than the upside.
Only way that happens is if the Big Ten and SEC break away from NCAAI believe there actually is a discussion between the two conferences about an annual SEC vs B1G series like the basketball one with the big east
This is basically where I am. I’m not a big fan of having this game every season, but there’s enough interest that I’m ok with it. However, it would have to be dropped if the game started holding the program back. For instance, if a 10th conference game or mandatory home/home with an SEC team were mandated, but the regular season remained 12 games, there would simply never be room for an away game at Iowa State without the program losing revenue, so Iowa would have to drop the series or only play ISU at home for the sake of self-preservation.Everyone has an opinion on this, personally I say play ISU every year unless something weird happens regarding conference expansion etc.
Why? They could play one SEC team home and home for two seasons and then switch the teams around to new teams every other year. One of their three non cons would be an SEC team. Now if the B1G goes to a 10 game league schedule that's probably won't work.Only way that happens is if the Big Ten and SEC break away from NCAA
That’s history…the worm will start to turn…beginning this season.ISU has won 3 of the last 4.
Then the ISWho game is history.And IF the B1G goes to a 10-game schedule?
Why would that need to be the case, for the two conferences to simply schedule one cross-over game amongst the conferences?Only way that happens is if the Big Ten and SEC break away from NCAA
Absolutely not….get rid of this series as it has run its course. There is going to be a fairly seismic shift coming in 5 or 6 years and most of the P4 conferences are going to be reorganized, including small market teams in the higher revenue conferences.I say no . . . unless it's only played once every three or four years. Iowa needs to have schedule flexibility. Playing ISU every year does nothing for Iowa. As a fan, I'd love to see Iowa play some different teams. Playing ISU once every three or four years would keep the series alive but allow fans, and players, to experience some new opponents and new stadiums. After all, Iowa managed quite well without playing ISU at all for about 40 years. So I say stop the annual series and let's see something new.
The series will die a natural death. I predict the Big Ten and SEC will absorb one independent/ACC school, four or five from the ACC, and one (two tops) Big 12 school. This is for all sports of course.Absolutely not….get rid of this series as it has run its course. There is going to be a fairly seismic shift coming in 5 or 6 years and most of the P4 conferences are going to be reorganized, including small market teams in the higher revenue conferences.
It won’t be a power 2.5. It will be a G5 type thing. The distance between the super conference will exceed the difference between current D1 and D2. In 5 years big 10 teams will score 60+ points against any leftovers. This has been coming and it’s finally on the doorstep. ISU sports is going to decline into the same category as UNI. It’s inevitable. And it works out perfectly for a state our population. 20 years from now clown fan decadents won’t exist. They will be Iowa fans and ISU fans similar to the current uni Iowa relationship. Iowa will be the big show. And the whole state will pull for them.The series will die a natural death. I predict the Big Ten and SEC will absorb one independent/ACC school, four or five from the ACC, and one (two tops) Big 12 school. This is for all sports of course.
The more marketable of the remainder of the ACC and Big 12 will merge to form a conference that will be Power Two and a Half. The leftovers will find homes elsewhere.
Iowa had to block two field goals in the last 15 seconds to beat UNI in a season where they almost went undefeated. NEVER underestimate the in state rivals, no matter the talent discrepancy.It won’t be a power 2.5. It will be a G5 type thing. The distance between the super conference will exceed the difference between current D1 and D2. In 5 years big 10 teams will score 60+ points against any leftovers. This has been coming and it’s finally on the doorstep. ISU sports is going to decline into the same category as UNI. It’s inevitable. And it works out perfectly for a state our population. 20 years from now clown fan decadents won’t exist. They will be Iowa fans and ISU fans similar to the current uni Iowa relationship. Iowa will be the big show. And the whole state will pull for them.
ISU 3 out of the last 4. Get revenge first!I say no . . . unless it's only played once every three or four years. Iowa needs to have schedule flexibility. Playing ISU every year does nothing for Iowa. As a fan, I'd love to see Iowa play some different teams. Playing ISU once every three or four years would keep the series alive but allow fans, and players, to experience some new opponents and new stadiums. After all, Iowa managed quite well without playing ISU at all for about 40 years. So I say stop the annual series and let's see something new.
Blah blah blah. In 1888 grinnell beat iowa.Iowa had to block two field goals in the last 15 seconds to beat UNI in a season where they almost went undefeated. NEVER underestimate the in state rivals, no matter the talent discrepancy.
I actually was at that game.Blah blah blah. In 1888 grinnell beat iowa.
Cool. Did you also see the last clone team to win a league football title in 1912?I actually was at that game.
Agree. This is the inevitable future, and clown fans know it.It won’t be a power 2.5. It will be a G5 type thing. The distance between the super conference will exceed the difference between current D1 and D2. In 5 years big 10 teams will score 60+ points against any leftovers. This has been coming and it’s finally on the doorstep. ISU sports is going to decline into the same category as UNI. It’s inevitable. And it works out perfectly for a state our population. 20 years from now clown fan decadents won’t exist. They will be Iowa fans and ISU fans similar to the current uni Iowa relationship. Iowa will be the big show. And the whole state will pull for them.
No, I had developed a revulsion against STATE by that time already.Cool. Did you also see the last clone team to win a league football title in 1912?
Whoever the Big Ten adds, you can be sure their addition WILL NOT make current members' piece of the money pie smaller. I also think a school had better be in the AAU if they want Big Ten presidents to vote them in.Agree. This is the inevitable future, and clown fans know it.
Yeah, that's called having a normal sense of smell- the olfactory factor, if you will.No, I had developed a revulsion against STATE by that time already.
Many because they just can't stand the JuCo feel of ISU football and its fans.In-state rivalries are one of the beautiful things about college football.
I can't believe how many people want the game gone.