Fox News and Trump are trapped in a doom loop over Iran

baltimorened

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ROFL. So funny, and so true. This Iran War is a gift to Democrats that keeps on giving. Go Cheeto!

I don't think there's any question that Fox news is supportive not only of the war in IRAN but also trump in general terms. Of course the converse of that is that MS Now is firmly against not only the war in Iran but also pretty much everything trump does.

Both do themselves a disservice, but this bias - for or against - makes everything they say suspect IMO.

Now from a totally unbiased POV, what both should be saying is that ...we agree Iran should not have nuclear weapon...trump had the upper hand militarily prior to agreeing with the ceasefire...then momentum shifted....the ceasefire exists in name only...Iran has the world by the ba--s with the closing of the strait....we can, but as of now are unwilling to commit the resources to open the strait....we need to end this yesterday.....we will not get the deal we want...we will accept a deal because we have to...Iran will violate the deal, and we will ignore the violations....

You could add some additional points and most likely they would be accurate, knowing your proclivities.

In short, Trump bungled this
 

hawkeyetraveler

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I don't think there's any question that Fox news is supportive not only of the war in IRAN but also trump in general terms. Of course the converse of that is that MS Now is firmly against not only the war in Iran but also pretty much everything trump does.

Both do themselves a disservice, but this bias - for or against - makes everything they say suspect IMO.

Now from a totally unbiased POV, what both should be saying is that ...we agree Iran should not have nuclear weapon...trump had the upper hand militarily prior to agreeing with the ceasefire...then momentum shifted....the ceasefire exists in name only...Iran has the world by the ba--s with the closing of the strait....we can, but as of now are unwilling to commit the resources to open the strait....we need to end this yesterday.....we will not get the deal we want...we will accept a deal because we have to...Iran will violate the deal, and we will ignore the violations....

You could add some additional points and most likely they would be accurate, knowing your proclivities.

In short, Trump bungled this
Solid post. Agree with most of it. The two quibbles:

(1) I agree we had the military upper hand, but we did not have strategic control of the entire situation. Had we pulled off a favorable regime change then sure, but we screwed that up in the first few days of the war.

(2) Iran was negotiating and we should have let that run its course. But we attacked right in the middle of negotiations. That’s was a very, very dumb thing to do. Potentially we had a non-violent path that would have led to a better outcome than we can ever get now.
 

Anon1750875978

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In reality, the presence of Newsmax has forced Fox Opinion Network even farther to the right.

Likely Trump has mentioned this to Rupert.

Both are disgusting for their lack of principles.