Football Big Ten power rankings: CBS Sports reveals updated list post-spring
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It means zilch.
Last August they had Miami #10 and Indiana #23. They had Penn State #2 and Clemson #4.
Last August they had Miami #10 and Indiana #23. They had Penn State #2 and Clemson #4.
Really don't get Nebraska at #10. Frankly, 10-18 are all fungible.
Rhule has not done squat in 3 years, and while they were 7-6/4-5 last year:
Barely beat Cincinnati, Maryland, Northwestern and UCLA. Got thrashed by a weak Penn State.
Rhule has not done squat in 3 years, and while they were 7-6/4-5 last year:
Barely beat Cincinnati, Maryland, Northwestern and UCLA. Got thrashed by a weak Penn State.
| August 28 | 8:00 p.m. | vs. Cincinnati* | ESPN | W 20–17 | 72,884 | ||
| September 6 | 6:30 p.m. | Akron* | BTN | W 68–0 | 86,439 | ||
| September 13 | 11:00 a.m. | Houston Christian* |
| FS1 | W 59–7 | 86,292 | |
| September 20 | 2:30 p.m. | No. 21 Michigan |
| CBS | L 27–30 | 87,278 | |
| October 4 | 3:00 p.m. | Michigan State
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| FS1 | W 38–27 | 86,496 | |
| October 11 | 2:30 p.m. | at Maryland | BTN | W 34–31 | 39,623 | ||
| October 17 | 7:00 p.m. | at Minnesota | No. 25 | FOX | L 6–24 | 48,549 | |
| October 25 | 11:00 a.m. | Northwestern |
| FS1 | W 28–21 | 86,401 | |
| November 1 | 6:30 p.m. | No. 23 USC |
| NBC | L 17–21 | 86,529 | |
| November 8 | 8:00 p.m. | at UCLA | FS2/FOX[a] | W 28–21 | 44,481 | ||
| November 22 | 6:00 p.m. | at Penn State | NBC | L 10–37 | 105,038 | ||
| November 28 | 11:00 a.m. | Iowa |
| CBS | L 16–40 | 86,410 | |
| December 31 | 2:30 p.m. | vs. No. 15 Utah* | ESPN | L 22–44 | 38,879 |
After which fluke win will Schiano cry with unabashed joy this year ?
His bar for success is so low a caterpillar would trip over it.
No coach in any sport, ever, has achieved so little for so long with a salary near the very top of his profession.
His bar for success is so low a caterpillar would trip over it.
No coach in any sport, ever, has achieved so little for so long with a salary near the very top of his profession.
We all know you hate Schiano but try to be somewhat factual
Schiano is currently the 13th (of 18) highest paid coaches in the conference and 38th in CFB, not even close to "near the very top of his profession"
And way overpaid at his accomplishment level.
Quick math on this with a handful of coaches
Ryan Day - 12.5M (avg wins last 3 seasons-12)-- $1M/win
Lincoln Riley- 11.5M (8- last 2 seasons in B1G)--$1.4M/win
Dan Lanning- 10.4M (13- last 2 seasons in B1G)--$0.8M/win
Luke Fickell 7.8M (5)---$1.6M/win
Ferentz- 7.1M (7)- $1M/win
Schiano- 6.5M (6) --$1.1M/win
Locksley- 6.1M (5) --1.2M/win
Seems the going rate is about $1M/win, if that is a fair metric
Greg's pay seems to be in line with what the B1G pays a head coach per win. Lincoln Riley is grossly overpaid, and Dan Lanning "deserves" a raise!
Glaring omission: Curt Cignetti 27 wins, $11.6 million, $596,000 per win.
Edit - ignore this post.19 below.
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Wrong math. He’s dividing salary by average wins per season. Cignetti has only been in the B1G for two seasons with 27 wins, or 13.5 wins per season. So that comes to $860k per win — in the same ballpark as Dan Lanning.
Calm down, already. Sheesh.
Cignetti is what you would call in statistics an outlier.
Since you are keen with critique, why don't you round out the rest of the chart?
Koko is on a mission. A saner and calmer mission than the lunatic who is on ignore.
Need to factor in Cignetti's initial Indiana contract and his 3 three contract amendments with raises. Note the amounts below don't include an annual $500,000 payment on top of these amounts or the 3 raises Cignetti has received since then.
Agree Cignetti is an outlier or a unicorn or somebody who caught lightning.
Not going to round out the chart. I've posted many times about B1G coaching compensation.
Greg is near the conference median on comp, below the median on winning, and above the median on staff size and staff comp.
But the question is he over paid. If $$$ per win is a fair metric, which is debatable, his pay is in line.
I have long advocated for a base salary of, for example, $5M, with bonus money for each win over 6 wins. Coaches already have written into their contracts bonuses for making silly, meaningless bowls and making the CFP, with increasing bonuses for each level of the CFP reached. But such a proposal on base pay and more pay for each win would never fly.
Huh? I just used the figure you put in your post ($11.6M) and divided it by 13.5 wins per season.
Let me clarify my math which was too simple and as you pointed out the wrong way to look at it. The $11.6 million is Curt's salary for his first 24 months.
Here are Curt's salary and bonus details.
Curt earned $19.6 million from his hiring in December 2023 to January 2026, when Indiana won the national championship, a period in which Indiana won 27 games.
$19.6 million / 27 wins = $726,000 per win.
Most fans would agree. But coaches want as much guaranteed as possible regardless of performance and their agents usually it.
Curt Cignetti's initial contract at Indiana paid him a low salary for the B1G at $4.0 million (Greg was at $6.25 million) but Curt has huge bonus opportunities for winning - and winning Curt is doing. Curt pocketed $4.3 million in bonuses in his first two seasons. This includes bonuses based on number of conference wins. Greg doesn't have that.
Well, maybe Cignetti's contract may be the start of a new standard. We have seen too many times coaches that come in, do well for a short while, get huge raises, and get a huge contract and extension.
My guess is everybody agrees with you - except the coaches and their agents. Athletic directors should do a better job of pushing back but they roll over because they know the students, university, and taxpayers are on the hook. The ADs buy labor peace using other people's money.
I've always said, Greg's greatest ability is to sell the dream, and monetize himself off of that. When a small, but vocal group were ready to burn the U down for him, he parlayed that into even greater riches for himself. The funny part is he did it with absolutely zero leverage. The market for Greg Schiano consisted of 1 school. And he had that school negotiating with themselves. That is some serious skill to be able to do that with his track record.
so basically he's overpaid , by three spots, from where CBS has Rutgers in their B1G ranking .
An undefeated season will expose he's misunderstood by many in the fanbase and underpaid by the school
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He’s overpaid, not in terms of annual salary or $ per win but in terms of actually still having the job at all. So many years in, a $1 million salary would too much because it’s accepting that a28% conf winning % is Ok.
That’s the proper lens. His job is to win. He’s a proven B1G loser. Paying him anything at all is too much.
That’s the proper lens. His job is to win. He’s a proven B1G loser. Paying him anything at all is too much.