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HipTer

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From the NBA draft measurements, Moreno's hand width is relatively narrow but his hand length is good in comparison to others. I don't know if this plays into real or perceived "hand strength" issues, but maybe one or two here could speak to that with actual knowledge - Lord knows we have enough opinions without any knowledge already.
 
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Bowfreak.

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I like Moreno but anyone drafting him in the first round will lose their job. He is a fringe NBA player at this point. He needs lots of work on his body and his game. He can be great but it is up to him.
 
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I love Moreno, think he has a breakout season, but right now, he is not first round material. There is no avenue for him to crack the first round. Another year at Kentucky is his calling card to getting into the first round and possibly developing into a lottery pick, if it's possible for him, and I think it is.

NBA teams truly value big men, and there will be a good place for him to land with another season of college under his belt.

Besides, Moreno will even make more money staying here than leaving now.

All signs to me point to his return ... let's stay positive and optimistic he has a good experience and brings that knowledge back to Lexington with the desire to prove himself big time for the upcoming year.
 
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theKybluedude

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Snarks said:
Moreno had a lot of upside, but he needs to actually show he can tap that potential. We’re putting a lot of hope in him for year 2.
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Needs the maturity that comes with age.
I’m sure he and has brother realize it’s the 2nd NBA contract he should work towards.
 
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MegaBlue05 said:
It baffles me how many people can’t distinguish “opinion” from “news.”

This is one person’s opinion on a widely discredited draft position guessing site.
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A 25.5 no step vertical is not an opinion, it's how he actually performed.
As was his other testing metrics.
Someone has to be the best and someone has to be the worst.
It's not an opinion.
Don't take the word " loser" literally.
MM did not help his draft position with his numbers from the athletic testing portion of the combine.
You can trash the site if you want but it is a free site.
I really don't know how you would spin it any different based on his actual numbers.
 
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theBlues said:
I'd say the vertical jump, where Bird was just a little above average for his size, is the only area of athleticism where Bird was not elite. He had the quickest feet and hands and best agility I've ever seen in someone his size. Also, he had the throwing arm of a MLB pitcher or NFL quarterback.
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Yeah he wasnt athletically fast or quick but played extremely fast and quick
 
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Wildcat_in_DC

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Bowfreak. said:
I like Moreno but anyone drafting him in the first round will lose their job. He is a fringe NBA player at this point. He needs lots of work on his body and his game. He can be great but it is up to him.
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i dont think anyone who is serious about what they do does. now the ones in the media looking for clicks...
 
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Kingslayer07

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"second-rounder at best entering the process due in part to questions surrounding his shooting and offensive upside"
Well no shiiit. We all knew this, all this first round hype was complete garbage.
 
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He's getting feedback, that's good. He's going to put in that work over the summer and be a better player for it come October for UK. The potential is there. We all see it. We also all see that this first round draft talk is absolute nonsense. I'm not trying to rag on MM. He has a lot to work on. He also has tremendous upside.
 
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CB3UK said:
He's getting feedback, that's good. He's going to put in that work over the summer and be a better player for it come October for UK. The potential is there. We all see it. We also all see that this first round draft talk is absolute nonsense. I'm not trying to rag on MM. He has a lot to work on. He also has tremendous upside.
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He won’t get better playing Pope ball.
 
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theKybluedude

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Pope did too good a job developing him! So raw coming into UK and was to be the 3rd center but Pope has him in the nba draft conversation.
 
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KyKevin said:
Larry Bird was never an elite athlete, and one of the all time greats. I think what you have upstairs makes a huge difference in what you do with what you were given. Most aren't lucky enough to get both. But Moreno has a ways to go, but he will get there with his smarts. Garrison is an example of just the opposite. And I think Moreno goes a lot further then Garrison, who has an NBA ability athletically, but can't focus for long.
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Bird was elite at basketball skill though. His passing, shooting, dribbling, vision everything you need to be a HOF player. Plus his mental game I agree was one of the best ever.
 
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theBlues said:
I'd say the vertical jump, where Bird was just a little above average for his size, is the only area of athleticism where Bird was not elite. He had the quickest feet and hands and best agility I've ever seen in someone his size. Also, he had the throwing arm of a MLB pitcher or NFL quarterback.
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That is true, he was very fast twitch.
 
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