How to bring Kentucky back to prominence

Rainmaker

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I’ve been looking at the landscape of the "new" NCAA, and I’m convinced we’re focusing on the wrong battleground. Everyone is obsessed with who is entering the Transfer Portal and which 5-star is committing . That’s small market thinking IMO and there is a bigger pond to fish. If Kentucky wants to return to being the undisputed "Gold Standard," Mark Pope needs to make one phone call: Ettore Messina. I know you are thinking "he’s a pro coach," but hear me out. Here is why bringing a legend like Messina to Lexington as an Associate Head Coach/International Director would be the ultimate "Checkmate" move in the NIL era.

1. The NIL Market is Now More Lucrative than Europe We need to stop pretending we're competing with Duke or Kansas. We are now competing with Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Olimpia Milano for the talent pool. With the current NIL collectives and the new revenue sharing models, Kentucky can offer a 17-22 year old European phenom significantly more money than a mid-level EuroLeague contract. But money isn't enough to pull a kid away from a pro academy, you need credibility. Messina is the only man on earth who provides instant NBA/Euro credibility while understanding the American system.

2. The "Portal" is a Band-Aid and I believe Europe is the Cure. The Transfer Portal is becoming an overpriced marketplace for "good not great" players. Meanwhile, the high school ranks are increasingly volatile.

The Euro Prospect Advantage:
• Tactical Superiority: These kids have been drilled in "winning basketball" since puberty. They don't need to be taught how to move without the ball or play team defense.
• The "Discovery" Window: There are 6'10" kids in the Adriatic League who are more skilled than 90% of the portal, but they don't have a bridge to the US. Messina is that bridge.
3. Out Pro-ing the Pros
Imagine Mark Pope and Ettore Messina sitting in a living room in Belgrade or Rome.
• Pope sells the "Modern Offense" and the 20,000 screaming fans at Rupp.
• Messina sells the developmental path that took players to the Spurs and multiple EuroLeague titles.

If you are a 6’9” wing with NBA aspirations, why would you stay in a second rate French league for $100k-300k when you could come to Kentucky, make $1,000,000 or more in NIL, and be coached by the greatest European tactical mind of all time?

The Bottom Line
The domestic recruiting pool is over saturated and overpriced. The next frontier is the International Pipeline. If we hired a guy like Messina, we aren't just getting an assistant, we are opening a door to a talent pool that the rest of the SEC has barely touched. It would turn Kentucky into a "Global Academy" that bypasses the portal chaos entirely and could be a move to bring us back to the prominence we once had. To stay ahead you have to adapt and this is a must do IMO, if not Messina then a prominent Euro guy.

TLDR version- get ahead of the game by hiring a well connected and respected top tier Euro coach in our vacant coaching position. Euro talent pool is the future of college basketball and has way more fish than high school recruits and the transfer portal ever could.
 

moses1uk

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I’ve been looking at the landscape of the "new" NCAA, and I’m convinced we’re focusing on the wrong battleground. Everyone is obsessed with who is entering the Transfer Portal and which 5-star is committing . That’s small market thinking IMO and there is a bigger pond to fish. If Kentucky wants to return to being the undisputed "Gold Standard," Mark Pope needs to make one phone call: Ettore Messina. I know you are thinking "he’s a pro coach," but hear me out. Here is why bringing a legend like Messina to Lexington as an Associate Head Coach/International Director would be the ultimate "Checkmate" move in the NIL era.

1. The NIL Market is Now More Lucrative than Europe We need to stop pretending we're competing with Duke or Kansas. We are now competing with Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Olimpia Milano for the talent pool. With the current NIL collectives and the new revenue sharing models, Kentucky can offer a 17-22 year old European phenom significantly more money than a mid-level EuroLeague contract. But money isn't enough to pull a kid away from a pro academy, you need credibility. Messina is the only man on earth who provides instant NBA/Euro credibility while understanding the American system.

2. The "Portal" is a Band-Aid and I believe Europe is the Cure. The Transfer Portal is becoming an overpriced marketplace for "good not great" players. Meanwhile, the high school ranks are increasingly volatile.

The Euro Prospect Advantage:
• Tactical Superiority: These kids have been drilled in "winning basketball" since puberty. They don't need to be taught how to move without the ball or play team defense.
• The "Discovery" Window: There are 6'10" kids in the Adriatic League who are more skilled than 90% of the portal, but they don't have a bridge to the US. Messina is that bridge.
3. Out Pro-ing the Pros
Imagine Mark Pope and Ettore Messina sitting in a living room in Belgrade or Rome.
• Pope sells the "Modern Offense" and the 20,000 screaming fans at Rupp.
• Messina sells the developmental path that took players to the Spurs and multiple EuroLeague titles.

If you are a 6’9” wing with NBA aspirations, why would you stay in a second rate French league for $100k-300k when you could come to Kentucky, make $1,000,000 or more in NIL, and be coached by the greatest European tactical mind of all time?

The Bottom Line
The domestic recruiting pool is over saturated and overpriced. The next frontier is the International Pipeline. If we hired a guy like Messina, we aren't just getting an assistant, we are opening a door to a talent pool that the rest of the SEC has barely touched. It would turn Kentucky into a "Global Academy" that bypasses the portal chaos entirely and could be a move to bring us back to the prominence we once had. To stay ahead you have to adapt and this is a must do IMO, if not Messina then a prominent Euro guy.

TLDR version- get ahead of the game by hiring a well connected and respected top tier Euro coach in our vacant coaching position. Euro talent pool is the future of college basketball and has way more fish than high school recruits and the transfer portal ever could.
What bunch of stupidity
 

rick64

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14 of the top 20 recruits were on campus for a visit. Pope couldn't close the deal on any of them. So there's definitely something wrong with what they're doing.
 
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Smeegs

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Good post. Hiring a Euro coach for CBB actually is a pretty innovative idea that makes some sense in this new landscape. A coach with an inside edge on Euro talent ..and who gets the way they think (perhaps even speaks the same language) …could potentially clean up in this new version of the sport.

Nobody has tried it yet …but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone soon does. It’s definitely a “thinking outside the box” idea the OP has.
 

Wildcat_in_DC

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this strategy will be the latest flavor of the month right up until it fails then its tossed out for the next thing.....

uk has won 2 titles in 28 years.....hot take, uk has never been a prominent school based on results but more for historic reasons. how much money would need to be spent(coaches, buyouts, NIL, faciltities) for folks to maybe realize its just going to be an above average program?

set the target more realistically, achieve that. vs constant state of misery.
 

mjj_2K

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this strategy will be the latest flavor of the month right up until it fails then its tossed out for the next thing.....

uk has won 2 titles in 28 years.....hot take, uk has never been a prominent school based on results but more for historic reasons. how much money would need to be spent(coaches, buyouts, NIL, faciltities) for folks to maybe realize its just going to be an above average program?

set the target more realistically, achieve that. vs constant state of misery.
Uh, yeah. That doesn't come off as trollish at all.

Maybe expectations are too high. But...in the 25 seasons of 00-01 through 24-25 (meaning just last year), UK ranks 4th in wins behind Duke, Gonzaga, and Kansas, ahead of UNC, UConn, Villanova, and Michigan State. With a lot of what people consider "down" periods in those 25 years, coming directly off a decade when UK averaged over 28 wins per year and won 2 titles in 4 FF appearances.

6 schools have multiple titles in those 25 years. (UConn, Duke, UNC, Kansas, Florida, and Villanova). So, at absolute worst, UK is the 7th best program the last 25 years. People aren't going to just throw in the towel and accept that UK is going the way of IU.
 

ORCAT102521

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I’ve been looking at the landscape of the "new" NCAA, and I’m convinced we’re focusing on the wrong battleground. Everyone is obsessed with who is entering the Transfer Portal and which 5-star is committing . That’s small market thinking IMO and there is a bigger pond to fish. If Kentucky wants to return to being the undisputed "Gold Standard," Mark Pope needs to make one phone call: Ettore Messina. I know you are thinking "he’s a pro coach," but hear me out. Here is why bringing a legend like Messina to Lexington as an Associate Head Coach/International Director would be the ultimate "Checkmate" move in the NIL era.

1. The NIL Market is Now More Lucrative than Europe We need to stop pretending we're competing with Duke or Kansas. We are now competing with Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Olimpia Milano for the talent pool. With the current NIL collectives and the new revenue sharing models, Kentucky can offer a 17-22 year old European phenom significantly more money than a mid-level EuroLeague contract. But money isn't enough to pull a kid away from a pro academy, you need credibility. Messina is the only man on earth who provides instant NBA/Euro credibility while understanding the American system.

2. The "Portal" is a Band-Aid and I believe Europe is the Cure. The Transfer Portal is becoming an overpriced marketplace for "good not great" players. Meanwhile, the high school ranks are increasingly volatile.

The Euro Prospect Advantage:
• Tactical Superiority: These kids have been drilled in "winning basketball" since puberty. They don't need to be taught how to move without the ball or play team defense.
• The "Discovery" Window: There are 6'10" kids in the Adriatic League who are more skilled than 90% of the portal, but they don't have a bridge to the US. Messina is that bridge.
3. Out Pro-ing the Pros
Imagine Mark Pope and Ettore Messina sitting in a living room in Belgrade or Rome.
• Pope sells the "Modern Offense" and the 20,000 screaming fans at Rupp.
• Messina sells the developmental path that took players to the Spurs and multiple EuroLeague titles.

If you are a 6’9” wing with NBA aspirations, why would you stay in a second rate French league for $100k-300k when you could come to Kentucky, make $1,000,000 or more in NIL, and be coached by the greatest European tactical mind of all time?

The Bottom Line
The domestic recruiting pool is over saturated and overpriced. The next frontier is the International Pipeline. If we hired a guy like Messina, we aren't just getting an assistant, we are opening a door to a talent pool that the rest of the SEC has barely touched. It would turn Kentucky into a "Global Academy" that bypasses the portal chaos entirely and could be a move to bring us back to the prominence we once had. To stay ahead you have to adapt and this is a must do IMO, if not Messina then a prominent Euro guy.

TLDR version- get ahead of the game by hiring a well connected and respected top tier Euro coach in our vacant coaching position. Euro talent pool is the future of college basketball and has way more fish than high school recruits and the transfer portal ever could.
Interesting and well explained.
 

Wildcat_in_DC

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Uh, yeah. That doesn't come off as trollish at all.

Maybe expectations are too high. But...in the 25 seasons of 00-01 through 24-25 (meaning just last year), UK ranks 4th in wins behind Duke, Gonzaga, and Kansas, ahead of UNC, UConn, Villanova, and Michigan State. With a lot of what people consider "down" periods in those 25 years, coming directly off a decade when UK averaged over 28 wins per year and won 2 titles in 4 FF appearances.

6 schools have multiple titles in those 25 years. (UConn, Duke, UNC, Kansas, Florida, and Villanova). So, at absolute worst, UK is the 7th best program the last 25 years. People aren't going to just throw in the towel and accept that UK is going the way of IU.
cal has an absurd 5-6 year run. thats not happening anymore for UK. especially in the NIL era.
 

BookofMormon

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Pope missed the boat on not going to Europe immediately. His style would have resonated and he likely would have been able to close. Now it's a reactive mess.

That said, this isn't the full answer. It's combination of all resources - Retention, HS, US portal, Europe. Take a look at Scheyer.
 
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Rainmaker

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How to get Kentucky back to prominence is simple get a coach that can get players.
My point was that even a new coach will pick from the portal and high school more often than not and that’s a small pond to fish in with the current landscape. A new coach is needed but even “he” whoever it is needs to hire an assistant with a Euro pipeline. Time to adapt is now, and getting ahead of the curve would be a tremendous help instead of waiting until everyone is already doing it. Starting with a Euro assistant who is connected to that scene and known would be a huge advantage for at least 3-5 years.
 
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Rainmaker

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Interesting and well explained.
It’s similar to how Cal first adopted the one and done right after straight to NBA was banned. He adapted and had success overall, he was the first to do it. This is the same thing, with NIL we can offer top Euros more than they get paid and tapping into the top leagues and top talent would have immense success. Most college Euros even the best ones weren’t the top players but second or third tier, we could be the first to bring the top talent in and it wouldn’t be long before others followed suit just like they did when Calipari went one and done.
 

KennyPowers6969

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I’ve been looking at the landscape of the "new" NCAA, and I’m convinced we’re focusing on the wrong battleground. Everyone is obsessed with who is entering the Transfer Portal and which 5-star is committing . That’s small market thinking IMO and there is a bigger pond to fish. If Kentucky wants to return to being the undisputed "Gold Standard," Mark Pope needs to make one phone call: Ettore Messina. I know you are thinking "he’s a pro coach," but hear me out. Here is why bringing a legend like Messina to Lexington as an Associate Head Coach/International Director would be the ultimate "Checkmate" move in the NIL era.

1. The NIL Market is Now More Lucrative than Europe We need to stop pretending we're competing with Duke or Kansas. We are now competing with Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Olimpia Milano for the talent pool. With the current NIL collectives and the new revenue sharing models, Kentucky can offer a 17-22 year old European phenom significantly more money than a mid-level EuroLeague contract. But money isn't enough to pull a kid away from a pro academy, you need credibility. Messina is the only man on earth who provides instant NBA/Euro credibility while understanding the American system.

2. The "Portal" is a Band-Aid and I believe Europe is the Cure. The Transfer Portal is becoming an overpriced marketplace for "good not great" players. Meanwhile, the high school ranks are increasingly volatile.

The Euro Prospect Advantage:
• Tactical Superiority: These kids have been drilled in "winning basketball" since puberty. They don't need to be taught how to move without the ball or play team defense.
• The "Discovery" Window: There are 6'10" kids in the Adriatic League who are more skilled than 90% of the portal, but they don't have a bridge to the US. Messina is that bridge.
3. Out Pro-ing the Pros
Imagine Mark Pope and Ettore Messina sitting in a living room in Belgrade or Rome.
• Pope sells the "Modern Offense" and the 20,000 screaming fans at Rupp.
• Messina sells the developmental path that took players to the Spurs and multiple EuroLeague titles.

If you are a 6’9” wing with NBA aspirations, why would you stay in a second rate French league for $100k-300k when you could come to Kentucky, make $1,000,000 or more in NIL, and be coached by the greatest European tactical mind of all time?

The Bottom Line
The domestic recruiting pool is over saturated and overpriced. The next frontier is the International Pipeline. If we hired a guy like Messina, we aren't just getting an assistant, we are opening a door to a talent pool that the rest of the SEC has barely touched. It would turn Kentucky into a "Global Academy" that bypasses the portal chaos entirely and could be a move to bring us back to the prominence we once had. To stay ahead you have to adapt and this is a must do IMO, if not Messina then a prominent Euro guy.

TLDR version- get ahead of the game by hiring a well connected and respected top tier Euro coach in our vacant coaching position. Euro talent pool is the future of college basketball and has way more fish than high school recruits and the transfer portal ever could.
Who the hell has this much time to type this at 1 pm during the day.
 

AllBall

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I’ve been looking at the landscape of the "new" NCAA, and I’m convinced we’re focusing on the wrong battleground. Everyone is obsessed with who is entering the Transfer Portal and which 5-star is committing . That’s small market thinking IMO and there is a bigger pond to fish. If Kentucky wants to return to being the undisputed "Gold Standard," Mark Pope needs to make one phone call: Ettore Messina. I know you are thinking "he’s a pro coach," but hear me out. Here is why bringing a legend like Messina to Lexington as an Associate Head Coach/International Director would be the ultimate "Checkmate" move in the NIL era.

1. The NIL Market is Now More Lucrative than Europe We need to stop pretending we're competing with Duke or Kansas. We are now competing with Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Olimpia Milano for the talent pool. With the current NIL collectives and the new revenue sharing models, Kentucky can offer a 17-22 year old European phenom significantly more money than a mid-level EuroLeague contract. But money isn't enough to pull a kid away from a pro academy, you need credibility. Messina is the only man on earth who provides instant NBA/Euro credibility while understanding the American system.

2. The "Portal" is a Band-Aid and I believe Europe is the Cure. The Transfer Portal is becoming an overpriced marketplace for "good not great" players. Meanwhile, the high school ranks are increasingly volatile.

The Euro Prospect Advantage:
• Tactical Superiority: These kids have been drilled in "winning basketball" since puberty. They don't need to be taught how to move without the ball or play team defense.
• The "Discovery" Window: There are 6'10" kids in the Adriatic League who are more skilled than 90% of the portal, but they don't have a bridge to the US. Messina is that bridge.
3. Out Pro-ing the Pros
Imagine Mark Pope and Ettore Messina sitting in a living room in Belgrade or Rome.
• Pope sells the "Modern Offense" and the 20,000 screaming fans at Rupp.
• Messina sells the developmental path that took players to the Spurs and multiple EuroLeague titles.

If you are a 6’9” wing with NBA aspirations, why would you stay in a second rate French league for $100k-300k when you could come to Kentucky, make $1,000,000 or more in NIL, and be coached by the greatest European tactical mind of all time?

The Bottom Line
The domestic recruiting pool is over saturated and overpriced. The next frontier is the International Pipeline. If we hired a guy like Messina, we aren't just getting an assistant, we are opening a door to a talent pool that the rest of the SEC has barely touched. It would turn Kentucky into a "Global Academy" that bypasses the portal chaos entirely and could be a move to bring us back to the prominence we once had. To stay ahead you have to adapt and this is a must do IMO, if not Messina then a prominent Euro guy.

TLDR version- get ahead of the game by hiring a well connected and respected top tier Euro coach in our vacant coaching position. Euro talent pool is the future of college basketball and has way more fish than high school recruits and the transfer portal ever could.
Excellent post. Great insight.
 

KyWilson239

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The thought makes sense, but I don't know that a single hire makes UK a "Global Academy". That requires time and investment to build up. IL and AZ have deep connections overseas already, so the blueprint is there.
 

AllBall

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Ol Dusty boy beat us to it.

As of May 2026, Michigan Basketball has hired Israeli-American coach Mody Maor as an assistant coach under head coach Dusty May. Maor, who previously coached the New Zealand Breakers and Nagasaki Velca in Japan, was brought in to bolster the staff with international experience following the departure of assistant Justin Joyner.
 

Rainmaker

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The thought makes sense, but I don't know that a single hire makes UK a "Global Academy". That requires time and investment to build up. IL and AZ have deep connections overseas already, so the blueprint is there.
They have had success in bringing those players here and prioritized it but they haven’t build themselves as a path to the NBA through college yet. They also have not brought a single top prospect yet and are picking from a lower tier player pool still. Look at how well those lower tier guys have been doing and imagine a team with 4-5 top tier guys and how much better that team would be. Truly if done right and you bring in elite Euros they might as well gift you the title. It’s the next path and someone will do it, I’d just love to see Kentucky do it first.
 

Rainmaker

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Ol Dusty boy beat us to it.

As of May 2026, Michigan Basketball has hired Israeli-American coach Mody Maor as an assistant coach under head coach Dusty May. Maor, who previously coached the New Zealand Breakers and Nagasaki Velca in Japan, was brought in to bolster the staff with international experience following the departure of assistant Justin Joyner.
Have to be an innovator not a follower. May sees the path and knows it’s the future, that higher though is a small version of what I’d like us to do. A high profile Euro guy would change the game, that’s more than just having some “international experience.”
 

Goingfor9

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I’ve been looking at the landscape of the "new" NCAA, and I’m convinced we’re focusing on the wrong battleground. Everyone is obsessed with who is entering the Transfer Portal and which 5-star is committing . That’s small market thinking IMO and there is a bigger pond to fish. If Kentucky wants to return to being the undisputed "Gold Standard," Mark Pope needs to make one phone call: Ettore Messina. I know you are thinking "he’s a pro coach," but hear me out. Here is why bringing a legend like Messina to Lexington as an Associate Head Coach/International Director would be the ultimate "Checkmate" move in the NIL era.

1. The NIL Market is Now More Lucrative than Europe We need to stop pretending we're competing with Duke or Kansas. We are now competing with Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Olimpia Milano for the talent pool. With the current NIL collectives and the new revenue sharing models, Kentucky can offer a 17-22 year old European phenom significantly more money than a mid-level EuroLeague contract. But money isn't enough to pull a kid away from a pro academy, you need credibility. Messina is the only man on earth who provides instant NBA/Euro credibility while understanding the American system.

2. The "Portal" is a Band-Aid and I believe Europe is the Cure. The Transfer Portal is becoming an overpriced marketplace for "good not great" players. Meanwhile, the high school ranks are increasingly volatile.

The Euro Prospect Advantage:
• Tactical Superiority: These kids have been drilled in "winning basketball" since puberty. They don't need to be taught how to move without the ball or play team defense.
• The "Discovery" Window: There are 6'10" kids in the Adriatic League who are more skilled than 90% of the portal, but they don't have a bridge to the US. Messina is that bridge.
3. Out Pro-ing the Pros
Imagine Mark Pope and Ettore Messina sitting in a living room in Belgrade or Rome.
• Pope sells the "Modern Offense" and the 20,000 screaming fans at Rupp.
• Messina sells the developmental path that took players to the Spurs and multiple EuroLeague titles.

If you are a 6’9” wing with NBA aspirations, why would you stay in a second rate French league for $100k-300k when you could come to Kentucky, make $1,000,000 or more in NIL, and be coached by the greatest European tactical mind of all time?

The Bottom Line
The domestic recruiting pool is over saturated and overpriced. The next frontier is the International Pipeline. If we hired a guy like Messina, we aren't just getting an assistant, we are opening a door to a talent pool that the rest of the SEC has barely touched. It would turn Kentucky into a "Global Academy" that bypasses the portal chaos entirely and could be a move to bring us back to the prominence we once had. To stay ahead you have to adapt and this is a must do IMO, if not Messina then a prominent Euro guy.

TLDR version- get ahead of the game by hiring a well connected and respected top tier Euro coach in our vacant coaching position. Euro talent pool is the future of college basketball and has way more fish than high school recruits and the transfer portal ever could.
The European players know that Mark Pope is not a good coach. Why would they wanna play for him? I mean, European players want to play for a European coach who’s just kind of an ornament to bring players he’s not gonna do in game coaching. There’s only one way out of this for Kentucky to fire Mark Pope force him to resign or whatever. There’s no successful future with Mark Pope in it. He was grossly unqualified when he was hired. He’s learned a lot of bad habits because Mark Fox has been as go to.. pope is never been mentor by anyone he’s just a self-made head coach in a niche market in Utah. The guy has to go and university of Kentucky needs someone who can sell the university to anyone who can recruit up there with anyone. There are a lot of guys that are gonna be available this year that are gonna shine guys will want to be at Kentucky, so it’ll all work itself out and maybe that guy will hire a euro as an assistant I don’t know.

I like European basketball. I mean it’s all based upon European football and that’s my wheelhouse. I coach for 25 years. It’s all based upon the same concept of possession, moving the ball moving off the ball throwing your opponent off balance the problem with European basketball is there’s no defensive philosophy and to win in this environment, you have to be able to defend. People talk for five out whatever. That’s great you know I mean put up a lot of points. But the college game you gotta be able to play in the 90s and you have to be able to play in the 50s and 60s to win the NCAA tournament