Not sure if that's directed at me or not, my thinking was a) we haven't had an EV thread in a minute 2) I thought it was pretty remarkable this is honda's first annual loss EVER, and iii) 69
When was the last time you detected joy on this board? Are you being serious right now?
I don’t know if there is Joy over Honda struggling specifically, but I do enjoy seeing EV’s not be worshipped.
The redesigned Frontier is a really good product with a normally aspirated V6. They just came out with a Roush edition. It's going to do well for Nissan.
Every 17n Altima with hinds county plates.
Those sumbitcches show 275,000 on the odometer and haven't had an oil change since Bulldog football had a winning season. Quality? Maybe not, but those cars are gritty as hell.
17'n EPA mandates have killed engine reliability. Give me a non AFM/DOD GM 5.3 V8 that will last forever with minimal maintenance. Hell, even Toyota ditched the bulletproof 5.7 V8 and other engines for the new twin turbo v6 and v4 that have pretty significant issues.
I don’t get it either. Should be rooting against Mercedes and BMW with what happened at Pearl Harbor.
People just refuse to learn lessons from HISTORY
And the EV coming to Canton has been cancelled. So good news for Canton.
Being behind in the EV game early saved Ford a ton of money a decade later. They were just late enough to the game to head off a disaster and pivot from the Tennessee Electric Vehicle Center to make it become the Tennessee Truck Plant. Saved them a few billion..
I'll say this about Nissan quality. I had a 2012 Altima from 2012 - 2021. It was a great and super reliable car. Never had anything but routine maintenance in 150,000 miles.
A lot of Nissan's problem is that they went all in on making money on financing cars to bad credit risks when the cars became less profitable. Over time, if a significant number of Nissan's you see have some combination of dents and dings, cracked windshields, possibly a trash bag duck taped to the door in lieu of a window, a trunk that won't close that is stapped down, fenders or bumpers hanging lose, a donut replacing one wheel, etc., it can't help but weigh on teh brand's image. Not sure they don't have actual quality issues also, but it'll be a lot easier to fix actual quality issues than fix their image problem.
If the new save the world requirements on engines make the vehicle go to a landfill twice as fast, are we doing anything productive for the environment?
That may be more a function of NMAC long term lending practices, than build quality.
Exactly. They could have just mandated hybrids a decade ago and the problem would have been solved by now.
yea, hybrids make alot more sense than full EV as of now. I'm not necessarily an EV hater because once we advance the battery and charging tech they will certainly be more viable. I think most of the ire people have towards EV's are due to the government mandating them. Government needs to stay out of the way and let the EV adoption happen organically over the next several decades.
Wife had an Altima for a short while. It ran ok but my 1980 Honda Big Red 3 wheeler rode better.
TRUTH.......they brought back an electric version of their residential push mower, but not the gas......if they want to re-coup this loss and then some, re-introduce the gas mower at beginning of 3rdQ!!!!!
That reminds me of the federal government's Cash for Clunkers campaign. Where we spent billions taking perfectly functional vehicles off the roads and into landfills.
Easier said than done. And extremely expensive even if it can be done.
