Rutgers doesn’t win enough because most of you don’t donate enough

tico brown

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Easily explained by our lack of capital and NIL spending, which hurts recruiting. Northwestern just dropped $1 Billion on facilities for example.

But no one wants to talk about that, because that is the 800 lb gorilla in the room.
Northwestern won because they had Randy Walker and Pat Fitzgerald for the last 26 years.
 

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They win because alumni write big checks. They don’t whine and cry. They make it happen. So many of them write $20K checks so they can park in the best football parking lot.

They’re spending $4M for their quarterback.
They started writing those checks when they went out and found a winner as a coach. They didn't stick with a loser and make non stop excuses and say this is the best we can do. They hired a winner who inspired people to open their wallets.
 

RU#1fan

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I'll repeat the last line in my post above...because it's the most important one.
People in New Jersey are not that into Rutgers football.
Just ask them.
I’ll repeat my last line. People will be into Rutgers Football when we have a competent HC that will produce a competitive CFB team. Right not we don’t have one.
 

NickRU714

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Indiana previously spent $86M on facilities, so there was no excuse to being smoked by Rutgers in 2023. They spent an additional $10M + on NIL, so Cignetti could land the needed players in 2024.

The notion that Indiana manufactured success out of thin air is complete nonsense. They spent the money to be successful.

Actually, Indiana did manufacture success in 2024 out of this air.

How much did Rutgers spend in NIL in 2024?
Show me one preseason list that had Indiana finishing ahead of Rutgers in 2024.

Did some big change happen between 2023 when Rutgers beat Indiana despite the 86m in Facilities and 2024?
Maybe a HC change?

Even you said Indiana wasn't ahead of Rutgers in 2024.
 

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I’ll repeat my last line. People will be into Rutgers Football when we have a competent HC that will produce a competitive CFB team. Right not we don’t have one.
Are you saying that Rutgers has never had a competent HC since it went Big Time ?
I've been a fan of Rutgers football since way before then and lived my whole life in New Jersey.
And I've gotta tell you it's been only occasionally that I've bumped into many Rutgers fans in this state. Other than at RU football games of course. And how many paying fans were at those ? Guys I went to the games with went for the tailgating, not the game. I wish you were right, but I think you're seriously overestimating the interest of New Jersey sports fans in Rutgers football.
 

Section124

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They win when they hire good coaches. The alumni wrote the same big checks for Rich Rodriguez, Brady Hoke, and Professor of @SS Sherrone Moore. Rodriguez was a disaster. Hoke was the coach when they lost to RU. Moore won, but not enough by their standards. Their $4M QB wasn't as good as Kaliakmanis or Mendoza, neither of whom cost $4M. Writing big checks works when you hire coaches that produce real results.
Thread over. Al in body bag.
 
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Keli isn’t raising all of this money for Schiano. It’s so she can show the next coach they will be supported. She very savvy, don’t let the pint size and Appalachian accent fool you. She’s very intelligent and smart like a fox.

Kelli is doing a great job, but she’s not raising enough NIL for football to be successful. To be fair, she started later in the year, so she did the best she could.
Actually, Indiana did manufacture success in 2024 out of this air.

How much did Rutgers spend in NIL in 2024?
Show me one preseason list that had Indiana finishing ahead of Rutgers in 2024.

Did some big change happen between 2023 when Rutgers beat Indiana despite the 86m in Facilities and 2024?
Maybe a HC change?

Even you said Indiana wasn't ahead of Rutgers in 2024.

No they did not because they previously spent $86M on facilities, then spent significantly on NIL. I said that they haven’t passed us by until they’ve played us. We had a team that could compete with Indiana in 2024 until injuries hit bad. They made the playoffs in ‘24, so clearly they were better than us.
 
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The fact Rutgers spent more on their football program than 80% of the league blows his idiotic theory out of the water.

Because as usual, you are not looking at the complete picture. Look at what they’ve spent on capital expenses. This is why we’re not competitive on the recruiting trail. We’ve been completely outspent when it comes to operational expenses + capital expenses + NIL
 

NickRU714

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Kelli is doing a great job, but she’s not raising enough NIL for football to be successful. To be fair, she started later in the year, so she did the best she could.

No they did not because they previously spent $86M on facilities, then spent significantly on NIL. I said that they haven’t passed us by until they’ve played us. We had a team that could compete with Indiana in 2024 until injuries hit bad. They made the playoffs in ‘24, so clearly they were better than us.

And yet they were picked behind Rutgers in 2024.
Despite the spending on facilities and "significant" NIL?

Compete with Indiana in 2024? We were picked AHEAD of them. Significantly in most lists.
 

knightfan7

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No. If enough people pony up, we’ll be successful. If not, we’ll just have to continue to accept lackluster results.
To reach what a single donor gave Illinois would take 20,000 people each donating $5,000.

Michigan State? It would take 80,000.

Northwestern? Close to 100,000.

When Tx Tech built their $240 million football facility much came from a handfull of Oil rich Billionare donors. And that doesn't include $40 million in NIL.

What about your precious Miami?

These programs build off a handful of very wealthy people, not only or even primarily off Joe Average.

That along with alumni apathy is what Rutgers is lacking.
 
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And yet they were picked behind Rutgers in 2024.
Despite the spending on facilities and "significant" NIL?

Compete with Indiana in 2024? We were picked AHEAD of them. Significantly in most lists.

The only reason we were picked ahead of them in 2024, is because we beat them badly in 2023. But by the end of 2024, it was pretty evident they had passed us by.
 
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To reach what a single donor gave Illinois would take 20,000 people each donating $5,000.

Michigan State? It would take 80,000.

Northwestern? Close to 100,000.

When Tx Tech built their $240 million football facility much came from a handfull of Oil rich Billionare donors. And that doesn't include $40 million in NIL.

What about your precious Miami?

These programs build off a handful of very wealthy people, not only or even primarily off Joe Average.

That along with alumni apathy is what Rutgers is lacking.

We may not have whales but we have numbers.

Out of a 600K strong alumni base, we
absolutely have 1,000 heavy hitters who can donate 400,000, which covers your list. Meaning they have the capacity to do so. They just have to be convinced of the value of doing so.

All we need for starters, is to have 1,000 people donate 100,000. People who have held tech stocks for a while can do this easily without breaking a sweat. They simply sign over their equities to Rutgers. 247 shares of MSFT at today’s closing price fetches 100K for Rutgers.

This gets us the funds to start the build of the Fieldhouse.
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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We may not have whales but we have numbers.

Out of a 600K strong alumni base, we
absolutely have 1,000 heavy hitters who can donate 400,000, which covers your list. Meaning they have the capacity to do so. They just have to be convinced of the value of doing so.

All we need for starters, is to have 1,000 people donate 100,000. People who have held tech stocks for a while can do this easily without breaking a sweat. They simply sign over their equities to Rutgers. 247 shares of MSFT at today’s closing price fetches 100K for Rutgers.

This gets us the funds to start the build of the Fieldhouse.
Where are these fictional people hiding?
 
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Where are these fictional people hiding?

They’re in plain site. A good number tailgate in the Scarlet Lot, which is why I think that donation level should be raised to $10K.

I think Uncle Greg is good for $10M if everyone else kicks in $90M. He’s already done the locker room, which was huge. We can’t expect him to do everything because that’s not fair.

Greg Brown
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Brown is the longest-serving CEO of Motorola after the firm’s cofounder Paul Galvin (d. 1959) and his son Bob Galvin (d. 2011). Brown joined Motorola in 2003 and was promoted to chief executive in 2008. He spun off the company’s struggling legacy smartphone business as a separate public company called Motorola Mobility in 2011, and the Razr maker was acquired by Google for $12.5 billion a year later. (It’s now part of Lenovo.) Then, through a series of more than 50 acquisitions, Brown has transformed the company now known as Motorola Solutions into a nearly $70 billion (market capitalization) behemoth in the market for mission-critical public safety communications, 911 command center solutions and video security. The firm’s stock has soared more than sixfold since Brown took over, and he’s netted more than $700 million (before taxes) exercising options and selling shares along the way. He still owns Motorola Solutions stock and options worth a further $600 million.

 

knightfan7

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We may not have whales but we have numbers.

Out of a 600K strong alumni base, we
absolutely have 1,000 heavy hitters who can donate 400,000, which covers your list. Meaning they have the capacity to do so. They just have to be convinced of the value of doing so.

All we need for starters, is to have 1,000 people donate 100,000. People who have held tech stocks for a while can do this easily without breaking a sweat. They simply sign over their equities to Rutgers. 247 shares of MSFT at today’s closing price fetches 100K for Rutgers.

This gets us the funds to start the build of the Fieldhouse.
But except for 1, 2. or 3 they don't and you posting thread after thread here about it won't change a darn thing,

How many threads have you posted over time saying the same thing bud?

It sure seems like more "look at me" stuff
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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They’re in plain site. A good number tailgate in the Scarlet Lot, which is why I think that donation level should be raised to $10K.

I think Uncle Greg is good for $10M if everyone else kicks in $90M. He’s already done the locker room, which was huge. We can’t expect him to do everything because that’s not fair.

Greg Brown
Net Worth: $1.3 billion
Chairman and CEO, Motorola Solutions
Brown is the longest-serving CEO of Motorola after the firm’s cofounder Paul Galvin (d. 1959) and his son Bob Galvin (d. 2011). Brown joined Motorola in 2003 and was promoted to chief executive in 2008. He spun off the company’s struggling legacy smartphone business as a separate public company called Motorola Mobility in 2011, and the Razr maker was acquired by Google for $12.5 billion a year later. (It’s now part of Lenovo.) Then, through a series of more than 50 acquisitions, Brown has transformed the company now known as Motorola Solutions into a nearly $70 billion (market capitalization) behemoth in the market for mission-critical public safety communications, 911 command center solutions and video security. The firm’s stock has soared more than sixfold since Brown took over, and he’s netted more than $700 million (before taxes) exercising options and selling shares along the way. He still owns Motorola Solutions stock and options worth a further $600 million.

You're good at spending other peoples money. If those in Scarlet wanted to donate additional amounts they would have.

Why don't you start donating $10K and lead by example. I'm sure Keli will give you a shout out once your fund raising efforts have surpassed the $10 million mark.
 
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You're good at spending other peoples money. If those in Scarlet wanted to donate additional amounts they would have.

Why don't you start donating $10K and lead by example. I'm sure Keli will give you a shout out once your fund raising efforts have surpassed the $10 million mark.

I’m even better at spending my money. Great things require teams of people. If people want to build a great team, I’m ready to do my share. If not, I’ll find alternative uses for my money. That’s how this works.
 
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Got it, all talk. Thanks for confirming what many of us already know.

I don’t care. I’m not the one chasing clout on a football messageboard.

The loneliest place to be is out on a financial limb. If people aren’t motivated to build a winner, then so be it.
 
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So you lecture the board about not giving more... but you will only give more once the collection basket is mostly full. Got it.

I could do zero more, and will still have done more than most on this board. We’re starting from an empty collection basket. We either fill the collection basket together or we don’t. This is a team effort and not willing to run solo on this one.
We need participation.
 
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Kelli is doing a great job, but she’s not raising enough NIL for football to be successful. To be fair, she started later in the year, so she did the best she could.

No they did not because they previously spent $86M on facilities, then spent significantly on NIL. I said that they haven’t passed us by until they’ve played us. We had a team that could compete with Indiana in 2024 until injuries hit bad. They made the playoffs in ‘24, so clearly they were better than us.
You have no idea what she’s doing. You have no information and have zero connection to the department.
 

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Because as usual, you are not looking at the complete picture. Look at what they’ve spent on capital expenses. This is why we’re not competitive on the recruiting trail. We’ve been completely outspent when it comes to operational expenses + capital expenses + NIL
Fake news. Schiano has the biggest staff in the league. Or one of.
 

RU#1fan

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But except for 1, 2. or 3 they don't and you posting thread after thread here about it won't change a darn thing,

How many threads have you posted over time saying the same thing bud?

It sure seems like more "look at me" stuff
Put the Clown on Ignore.
 

Caliknight

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I’m even better at spending my money. Great things require teams of people. If people want to build a great team, I’m ready to do my share. If not, I’ll find alternative uses for my money. That’s how this works.
Al admitting he's not a leader. What a revelation!

We see why he's never at any events where people who matter are. Al telling people to do what he's not willing to do. Just a sad fan. Will hopefully become "MiamiAl" never to be seen here again.
 
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Caliknight

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At least Al has admitted he’s a fraud. And a part of the problem.

I’m now convinced he gives more to Miami than RU.
Crazy how he outed himself as one of the people he's been railing against for years. No wonder he dodged every question about how much he was donating.

At the end of the day, Al was nothing more than a deadbeat fan. Just sad.
 

NickRU714

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The only reason we were picked ahead of them in 2024, is because we beat them badly in 2023. But by the end of 2024, it was pretty evident they had passed us by.

But they spent $86m on infrastructure and $10m on NIL.

Surely all that spending trumps everything else?
Wouldn't it have been evident prior to 2024 they had passed us?
Since all the money was already raised and spent to build the 2024 roster?