ACC AD's Feel They Are Being Used

Fried Chicken

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The Covid season where ND joined the ACC and was literally given a spot in the Title Game revealed a lot.

The way the ACC caters to ND allows them to keep doing what they do and avoid joining a conference. Of course with the way things are going these days, they have no reason to join. CFB caters to them more than the ACC. It’s pathetic.
 

18IsTheMan

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The ACC whored themselves out to get some sort of connection to Notre Dame and now they want to act like they have been taken advantage of.

Give me a break.

They totally slutted it up for ND.

ACC to ND: We want you to join the conference!

ND to ACC: Thanks. We'd love to join the ACC in all sports except football. You know, only sport you actually want us for.

ACC to ND: Deal! (thinking internally: maybe if we're nice enough to them, they'll eventually join in football?)

:covid enters the room:

ND to ACC: Soooo, about football. We'd actually like to join the ACC. But only for 2020.

ACC to ND: Sure thing! (thinking internally: maybe if we're nice enough to them, they'll eventually join in football?)
 
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Harvard Gamecock

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Jim Swofford the ACC commissioner at the time, came up with this idea.
He pretty much set up his son up in a sweetheart deal for him( broadcasting rights) but not at all advantageous to the schools in the conference. Which in turn led to the very bad broadcast deals that he saddled with the league. ( a whole nother discussion into the depths of who, why, what should have, or what should have not been done )
As time moves on, I feel he will be labeled as the genesis that eventually breaks up the ACC as we now know it.
 
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Psycock

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Everyone other than the ACC could see that from the beginning - got their cake & ate it too. The ACC was so thrilled to have ND associated with the conference they bent over without a second thought. Bottom line is ND has continued to get special treatment while the full ACC teams haven`t. Mistake from day one was not insisting that they join the full conference or no deal. If ACC cuts them loose and no other conference will kiss their rear end, they would have to join a conference full time and the special treatment would immediately end. I have never understood why these AD`s don`t do that.
 
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KingWard

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Jim Swofford the ACC commissioner at the time, came up with this idea.
He pretty much set up his son up in a sweetheart deal for him( broadcasting rights) but not all advantageous to the schools in the conference. Which in turn led to the very bad broadcast deals that he saddled with the league. ( a whole nother discussion into the depths of who, why, what should have, or what should have not been done )
As time moves on, I feel he will be labeled as the genesis that eventually breaks up the ACC as we now know it.
That would be golden.
 

atl-cock

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Everyone other than the ACC could see that from the beginning - got their cake & ate it too. The ACC was so thrilled to have ND associated with the conference they bent over without a second thought. Bottom line is ND has continued to get special treatment while the full ACC teams haven`t. Mistake from day one was not insisting that they join the full conference or no deal. If ACC cuts them loose and no other conference will kiss their rear end, they would have to join a conference full time and the special treatment would immediately end. I have never understood why these AD`s don`t do that.
You and I don't appear to agree about much of anything, but we do on this one. Yes, the ACC should have insisted that if the league sponsors a championship in a sport, and you sponsor that sport on the D1/FBS level, you will compete for the ACC championship in that sport.

When Miami was in the Big East, they were an independent in baseball, but began competing the the ACC for baseball when they joined. Syracuse dropped baseball the same year we left the ACC. The Irish compete in D1 ice hockey. Most ACC schools "sponsor" ice hockey at the club level.

The other part of the compromise is that ND would schedule a few games on the gridiron each season with ACC schools. Which helps them a lot with scheduling as a football independent.
 

atl-cock

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Its not like the ACC didn't watch this exact scenario unfold already with ND and the Big East.

I had imagined that when the BE started their "football league" they should instead have made it an all-sports conference with the following members:

  • Penn State (had the BE gotten it going before the B1G came calling)
  • Pitt
  • West Virginia (keeping the Panther/Mountaineer rivalry alive and well)
  • VPI
  • Syracuse
  • Boston College
  • Connecticut
  • Rutgers
Everyone else could have started their own, separate conference.

IMO, this was the best opportunity for a major college sports league to develop in the northeast.
 

atl-cock

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So, first step is the break up of the ND/ACC?
Does the ACC have the fortitude to advise ND that competing for the football championship annually is a requirement for continued membership in the league? They needed that fortitude 10 years ago.

Did they insist that Miami must compete for the league championship in baseball? A reminder that in a previous post, I mentioned that they were a baseball independent while in the BE.