According to the team. No cause of death released. He was 29.
OT: Memphis Grizzlies player Brandon Clarke has passed away
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If I had to speculate I'd guess suicide with no COD given. 29 year old elite athletes rarely just drop dead.
Unless he had an undiagnosed heart condition (see Hank Gathers and Reggie Lewis).
But, yeah, suicide is otherwise the obvious logical guess. A perfectly healthy young athlete not involved in any reported accidents … that doesn’t leave room for too many other possibilities.
He was addicted to kratom so probably related to that
immediately what I thought. He got arrested in Cross County Arkansas with a bunch on him and Arkansas treats it like a Schedule 1 narcotic. Aside from the legal implications there that stuff is literal poison.
So tragic, my condolences to his family and friends through this difficult time. Such a shame. Prayers to his family. Just horrible, devestating news. I hate to see players even get injured, much less something tragic like this happening, but it does, from time to time and it is always very very sad to see.
I think Kratom is legal in Ky isn't it? I know I've seen it for sale at the gas station before.
Yeah it is available currently but there's a House bill being deliberated this year covering many THC and related products, and Kratom is one of the substances that will be banned if it passes
Don't know much about Kratom personally but I am a fan of the happy smoke.
It already passed. Kratom becomes illegal August 1. 7-OH is the deadly stuff and most likely cause of Clarke's death. 7-OH has been banned in Kentucky since last november. 7-OH is essentially synthetic Heroin made in a lab.
I stand corrected.
Yeah, I heard someone describe it as "gas station fentanyl" which is insane...
I had no clue it was something that strong. I was just sure I had noticed that name on a package by the register before.
7OH and heroin aren't in the same galaxy. Don't get me wrong, 7OH is very strong and has no business being sold over the counter but anyone who has done both would laugh at the comparison to heroin. It's like comparing an aspirin to Percocet. I've seen many people parrot this talking point and it only shows their complete ignorance on the subject. Going after these very potent, lab made derivatives of kratom is reasonable. Going after the plant based kratom is silly and a waste of time. Many people get positive results from the use of kratom including pain relief. The pharmaceutical industry cant have that. The people peddling the prescription opiates created the propaganda campaign against kratom and its working.
Crazy how people get hooked on Kratom. I know it’s similar to opioids, but I tried it to reduce withdrawal. It wasn’t anything special to me, but I have the tolerance of a Rhino so maybe I’m not the best judge. It wasn’t even close to even tramadol and that’s a weak opioid. At best it curved some stomach nausea and anxiety.
Yeah it is, I’ve bought many kinds of it before. Not at gas stations, but at herbal shops.
honestly that should be rule #1 to anyone wanting to imbibe in any (legal) substances like this: stay the hell away from anything sold at a gas station.
Right...and many people also get positive results from the use of fentanyl including pain relief...correct?
i don't really know about kratom, i'm just playing blue devil's advocate
Just like spice back in the day. The original stuff was decent. Close to weed. They started banning it and it became a game of different chemicals that they couldn’t ban fast enough and it led to the most dangerous stuff ever. Same with the war on opioids. If they would have left doctors alone, the state of the world would be better. At least narcan works on prescription medication. Now everything is made in a lab, is 100x’s more deadly and strong. It’s almost impossible to come off of and reverse OD depending on which unlucky substance you happened to get. Regulators end up making it worse sending it to the black market.
Re: Fentanyl.
I had surgery for a broken hand. Woke up in the hospital feeling better than I ever had in my life. Total clarify. Not a care in the world. Looked at the chart later and found they gave me fentanyl. Let me tell you something... those dudes living on street corners bumming money for daily hits of fentanyl have it figured out. That stuff is amazing.
I had surgery for a broken hand. Woke up in the hospital feeling better than I ever had in my life. Total clarify. Not a care in the world. Looked at the chart later and found they gave me fentanyl. Let me tell you something... those dudes living on street corners bumming money for daily hits of fentanyl have it figured out. That stuff is amazing.
They need to outright ban kratom/7-OH and a nee one that starts with a T. and all forms of synthetic THC and opioids. That stuff kills people because it’s made in a lab and completely unregulated.
Actual marijuana doesn’t. If booze is legal, weed should be too. Many states have figured it out. Bourbon industry is why it isn’t legal here. They know if the public could choose to smoke, vape or eat some cannabis products, fewer people are drinking their manmade poison that sells for $30-100+ a bottle. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the occasional bourbon, but if forced to choose only one, I am taking weed 110 times out of 100. This ballplayer would still be alive if his habit was 15 blunts a day.
Yeah, that is real Fentynal that is perfectly pure and the dose is perfect. On the street it’s similar but not pure, made in a Chinese lab, and you have no idea how much is in anything you buy. The amount to kill is so small that a grain of powder could be the difference between getting high and death. Now they are adding new chemicals. Substances such as carfentanil and various nitazenes that are 10-50x’s stronger than base Fentynal. Honestly it’s why I got sober. It’s too scary to even buy anything now. It’s asking for death even to an addict. You can’t even be careful anymore.
Roughly 15 years ago, I couldn’t find any weed but know some military guys who were into K2 because it wouldn’t show up
on tests. I bought an eighth from them to try it out. It tasted like I smoked potpourri off the top of my mamaw’s toilet, made me super paranoid for 20 minutes and then gave me a headache for the rest of the day.
I took the rest back the next day and told them they could keep the money because I know there wasn’t a refund policy and they could keep the merch because it was terrible. I stuck to actual weed ever since. Lesson learned.
Speaking of strong I ate like 4 gummy’s from a dispensary. My buddy had bags of them. I had homemade ones before but these were on a different level. I went to Mars for about three days. I’ll stick to smoke
What is more amazing, are the number of people it kills every day.
I always thought the stuff they give you before surgery, made me feel the same as you described.
Man I bought some delta 9 gummies to see how close it was to real bud. My tolerance is weak now. I ate 25mg and was feeling solid. I was like I will eat another before bed and feel real good. Big mistake. I was still high when I woke up, I was paranoid as hell. Never again.
Yeah, it's pretty scary. I want nothing to do with pain pills or any of that crap. But man, if you offered me fentanyl right now sitting at work...
It’s easy to see, some injuries take a long time to heal. After being on opioids even for a year taking exactly as prescribed you will start feeling slight WD effects. Some get past it, some don’t. Some people love the feeling so much they chase it. That happened to me. I legit needed them for my bad back. I also used stronger ones on the side because I loved the feeling. I was productive for years. Once I found Opana though it was all she wrote. I got real bad after that.
That’s because it’s not coming from a pharmacy. It’s coming from a huge bucket someone puts into powder. No telling how much, they can’t exactly weight it out properly. It’s not mixed to standard. You may buy a gram that is 300x’s more potent that the last one you bought.
It's definitely legal here in Tennessee. The gas station around the corner has a whole section of every different kind of kratum you can think of.
I asked the guy the other day what it was because I see people buying it all the time. He said it helps with energy and back pain... I've always heard it was dangerous so I want nothing to do with it. He said he sells 5 to 6 hundred bucks worth a day which is crazy because I live in a small town.
He literally has an entire wall full of it
Have at it. I have narcan for you when you go into cardiac arrest lol
Yep and I think that's the stuff that killed Michael Jackson. Propofol
somebody shouldYeah, it's pretty scary. I want nothing to do with pain pills or any of that crap. But man, if you offered me fentanyl right now sitting at work...