Moreno: How much in NIL vs. NBA late first round $$$?
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I think he would be in the GLeague if he goes. But stranger things have happened.
If I were him, I'd demand $3M from UK and stay put.
My bad, just saw him at 43.
Moreno is a must- as long as the Knicks havent promised him at 24 I think he’ll be back at the price previously discussed.
If not, I hope Pope raises the offer and plays the game.
If not, I hope Pope raises the offer and plays the game.
after TAXES in new york state and new york city---that $$$$ pile will be depleted before HE spends a penny.
Consider the TAXES--staying put is a no brainer.
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Consider the TAXES--staying put is a no brainer.
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This is becoming a little concerning. I was pretty certain he would be back, but now he is getting legitimate interest and maybe he worries that his stock might not get much better after another year at Kentucky. He was very good for part of last season, so maybe NBA teams are looking at that for upside. Nothing would surprise me.
Name one player from the transfer portal who is available who is better? Some of you act like every freshman should come in and be one and done when most of our title teams has multi-year guys who developed. I do not want the Cal years again. Give the kid a break as he was the only player on a crappy team last year that overachieved.
Maybe I’m not remembering things correctly, but I can’t think of many times where I watched MM, especially against SEC bigs, and thought “wow, this guy is a sure-fire NBA player one day”. He had some moments where he was good, but there are a lot of things he would need to improve upon before being an NBA contributor. Though if the draft is weak (seems folks have said it is) and the money is right, I can’t blame him for taking it.
Do you understand what it means when a 7‑footer looks at the NBA, looks at a guaranteed $2.7M rookie salary, looks at the bright lights of Los Angeles and says: “Nah. I’d rather stay in Lexington and block shots for Mark Pope.” MALACHI MORENO WIIL TURN DOWN THE NBA TO COME BACK TO UK!
Are you guys paid to do this stupid sh#%?
I thought Moreno returning was a good thing for UK!?! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This draft is getting a little weaker for bigs as big men withdraw but this draft is still one of the deepest ever while next year's draft looks like one of the weaker drafts, much like the year before last when Reed Sheppard went third. A guy that goes 20th in this draft might very well go 10th in next year's draft.
Provided there is a second contract. I wonder where one can find stats on second round and low first round picks not having contracts renewed after the first agreement is complete.
As far as available I can’t because they’ve all been signed but there are several that are better.
There are several that were better last year but we won't have freshman MM next year; we'll have the sophomore version and that's normally a better player. Just for comparison, MM's freshman numbers were better than Aday Mara's numbers the year before last as a sophomore at UCLA. If MM were in the portal he'd be ranked no lower than the 3rd center and he'd be ranked in the portal top 10. I heard one of the talking heads say they thought he'd rank #4 overall in the portal(if he was in it) but I think it would be around #9, just my opinion there.
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Doesn’t matter because they’re allready signed but Bidunga, Diop, Thiam, Sherrill, Cyril, Reibe imo are better and they are the ones I’ve seen play. I’m sure there are others I haven’t seen play. At this point we need Moreno but he isn’t getting us beyond the Sweet 16. However with him and Milan we would be be really good.
True but then he has no shot at the lottery so 3rd isn't a concern.No way Momcilovic turns down being the 3rd draft pick!
Maybe 33rd.
Seeing mid to late first round.
If he's being mocked mid to late first, he's probably going. Surprising if so. Shows you that Pope couldn't get most out of him, because he didn't look like that in a UK jersey.
Not known.
Sometimes, it means there was a 1st round guarantee.
Sometimes, it means someone has the feedback they sought and are ready to go back to school.
Examples of both happening recently, including Thomas Haugh who returned to Florida after skipping scrimmages. (According to folks on HOB/KSBoard).
OPINION: I don’t think Moreno is ready for the league. He’s back IMO
Right on. I don't think he is ready either. I hope this points to his return to UK. But we've seen crazier things happen, and I think we're all kind of expecting the worst these days. Hope to see him back.
No way we’re under 10 mil.
Diallo and Wilkins alone are 5 mil+
The returners are at least another 5 mil.
The rest of the new comers are another 5 mil.
So very conservatively you’re at at least $15 mil + whatever is left from the Stokes money.
I think he stays in school, but these official combine measurements without shoes are bad news for UK:
For reference, Bidunga was under 6'8" and Boozer was 6'8.25". Moreno is the second tallest player (behind Mara) in the entire draft.
For reference, Bidunga was under 6'8" and Boozer was 6'8.25". Moreno is the second tallest player (behind Mara) in the entire draft.
Your under $10 mil isn’t even feasible.
Diallo and Wilkins were two of the higher sought after players in the portal. So no doubt they are being paid $5 mill together.
It’s widely thought that Moreno at least got 2.5 mill to return. So you’re saying N’Diaye, McBride, Williams, Hawthorne, and Kepnang in total are less than 2.5 mil? No way.
And then you still have Morton, Noah, Potter, and the freshmen Williams and Hawthorne. They aren’t playing for free. May not be much but probably total close to 1 mil.
Bidunga and Boozer were listed at 6'9 in college, while Moreno was listed at 7'0. Usually that's with shoes so these aren't breaking numbers.
I heard it was more like $1.5M for Diallo and $2M to Wilkins. $2.5 to Moreno is what I heard there. Thats $6M. Do I think the rest of our roster was around $4M? Yep
I always thought the standard was for the college teams to measure in shoes and list players 1"-1.5" above their barefoot height.
- Bidunga was listed at 6'10" by Kansas; they went more than two inches above his real height.
- Duke listed Boozer 3/4" above his real height.
- UK listed Moreno only 1/2" above his real height.
Big men are at a premium in the NBA once again. That said, Moreno would be much better off if he stays with UK another season and steps up his game, and shows more physicality in hanging with SEC schools in the paint.
All of that should help him to raise his NBA draft stock from the back end of the first round / second round material ----> straight to lottery fringe terrritory by next year, with the added development. I firmly think he has the size, ability and talent to prove himself worthy of a lottery pick by the end of the season next year.
At any rate, he will be one of the top big men in next year's draft, which willk be much weaker than this year's draft. This year's draft is deep and really good, so for players like Moreno, I think it's wise to take the payday with kentucky, use the season to show improvement and at the end of next year, he may very well be primed to go in the top 12 or so of the NBA draft.
I would add that if we could land Momcilovic, we could possibly have 2 lottery picks, or at the very least, 2 first round picks playing for our squad next year.
Not so bad, afterall.
C'mon back, Malachi ! We're looking for you to have an awesome year and help lead our team to success. Best of luck to you always, big fella' !
All of that should help him to raise his NBA draft stock from the back end of the first round / second round material ----> straight to lottery fringe terrritory by next year, with the added development. I firmly think he has the size, ability and talent to prove himself worthy of a lottery pick by the end of the season next year.
At any rate, he will be one of the top big men in next year's draft, which willk be much weaker than this year's draft. This year's draft is deep and really good, so for players like Moreno, I think it's wise to take the payday with kentucky, use the season to show improvement and at the end of next year, he may very well be primed to go in the top 12 or so of the NBA draft.
I would add that if we could land Momcilovic, we could possibly have 2 lottery picks, or at the very least, 2 first round picks playing for our squad next year.
Not so bad, afterall.
C'mon back, Malachi ! We're looking for you to have an awesome year and help lead our team to success. Best of luck to you always, big fella' !
Obviously we’re way apart on Diallo. But UK was offering $4mil for Williams from BYU. And after he said no, Diallo was the second choice. And he probably didn’t get $4 mill but I doubt he accepted only $1.5 mill. The number I read early on somewhere was $3 mill. We won’t know unless he comes out and tells someone what he got.
Hawthorne and Kam both got over 1 mil to stay. And N’Diaye and McBride right there.
So my calculation is 13-14 mil right now including Mareno.
So we can agree to disagree. We probably won’t know for sure. But we can agree that if the Stokes money can be thrown at Mom, it will make him by far the highest paid player on the roster if he signs up.
I for the life of me can't find the twitter posts from verified accounts that (pre-Kepnang signing) UK hadn't exceeded $10 million yet in NIL spending. Which is entirely possible. This is also misleading because no one is factoring in Rev Share money and how that is being spent on players signed this year. So maybe Diallo got $3 Million total and $2M was NIL and $1M was Rev Share, so the total NIL spending number is misleading. That could be the difference in the 13-15 Million people are coming up with and the being under $10 Million if you factor in $4-$5 million in Rev Share. Just a thought.
Then why does Thomas Haugh keep returning? They just find the 2-3 players who care about winning more than money and contracts.