D1 Baseball Field of 64 - Carolina #5 national Seed

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Sorry, I meant up until game 6. I thought that was obvious by saying there was a game 7. 1 and 2 play 3 times in this scenario and the 2 seed is the home team twice. And that’s no coin flip or anything. It automatically works out this way. Everybody with a brain realizes this is silly.
 

Heelium1

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Hard to take too much offense to us being ranked behind UCLA, GT, UGA and Texas at the moment.
No. It's not.

We beat GaT in a series. None of the rest of them has--in a game.

And nobody of consequence (sorry OR) has beaten UCLA.

Carolina, in a fair universe, should be no lower than third. SEC bias is the explanation. And we gave the slavish tools who relentlessly promote "It Just Matters More" the opening with our loss to Coastal.

Had UCLA lost its series to OR, those same tools would have pounced to jump GA or Texas into the One spot. Because, well, "That's the natural order of things."

And nobody would have really complained because many of us have been conditioned to believe it.
 

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No. It's not.

We beat GaT in a series. None of the rest of them has--in a game.

And nobody of consequence (sorry OR) has beaten UCLA.

Carolina, in a fair universe, should be no lower than third. SEC bias is the explanation. And we gave the slavish tools who relentlessly promote "It Just Matters More" the opening with our loss to Coastal.

Had UCLA lost its series to OR, those same tools would have pounced to jump GA or Texas into the One spot. Because, well, "That's the natural order of things."

And nobody would have really complained because many of us have been conditioned to believe it.
We haven’t been “conditioned” to believe anything. We’ve seen with our eyes that the SEC wins the national championship almost every season and is by far the best conference in the sport.

There are valid arguments to be made for UNC to be anywhere from #2 to #6 seed at this stage. The teams I would personally have above us right now in seeding are UCLA and GT. But Georgia, Auburn and Texas are also right there.
 
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Texas lost 2/3 at Tennessee so we have an opportunity. Win 2/3 at NC state and Georgia is at Auburn so one team has to lose. So if UCLA, GT and say UGA win series this weekend and Carolina takes care of business at State number 4 national seed would seem fair.i will add I don't know how much value the committee will place on a single elimination tournament for the teams that are not bubble teams.
 
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The committee isn't going to rank Team A over Team B just because A won a best-of-3 series at home. They're evaluating nearly 60 games by time the selection happens. Seeding GT over us is reasonable.

Georgia only has 13 wins over Q1/Q2 combined. The other top-8 contenders mostly have 20+. Maybe they're the best team in the SEC but arguably the biggest reason they've already clinched the SEC is they got to play all of SC, Mizzou and LSU and went 9-0 in those games. The RPI is basically rigged to favor SEC teams and they're still not in the top 10. Not sure what you do with them. Auburn's record isn't as good but they have six straight series wins against Arkansas, Kentucky, Florida, Oklahoma, A&M, and Mississippi State along with a non-conference series win over Nebraska. That's strong.
 
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The committee isn't going to rank Team A over Team B just because A won a best-of-3 series at home. They're evaluating nearly 60 games by time the selection happens. Seeding GT over us is reasonable.

Georgia only has 13 wins over Q1/Q2 combined. The other top-8 contenders mostly have 20+. Maybe they're the best team in the SEC but arguably the biggest reason they've already clinched the SEC is they got to play all of SC, Mizzou and LSU and went 9-0 in those games. The RPI is basically rigged to favor SEC teams and they're still not in the top 10. Not sure what you do with them. Auburn's record isn't as good but they have six straight series wins against Arkansas, Kentucky, Florida, Oklahoma, A&M, and Mississippi State along with a non-conference series win over Nebraska. That's strong.
It's reasonable seeding GT over us today. Winning the ACC tourney could change that.

As for Georgia, in addition to their lack of Q1/Q2 wins, they played an absolutely atrocious OOC schedule, with a SOS of 238.
 
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Winning the tournament will help but losing out quickly in a one and done tournament is not going to hurt you. In years past it really didn't matter as long as you got a top 8 seed but it does matter now the higher seed gets a lower two seed.when you look at UGA schedule it's really interesting and I do wonder what the committee will do with them.
 

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It's reasonable seeding GT over us today. Winning the ACC tourney could change that.

As for Georgia, in addition to their lack of Q1/Q2 wins, they played an absolutely atrocious OOC schedule, with a SOS of 238.
The Auburn/Georgia debate will resolve itself this weekend.
 

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I agree Georgia is hard to evaluate because of their schedule, but if they win the series against Auburn this weekend, they’re almost surely going to be the top SEC team in the pecking order. Which would basically ensure they are a top 4 national seed.
 

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It's reasonable seeding GT over us today. Winning the ACC tourney could change that.

As for Georgia, in addition to their lack of Q1/Q2 wins, they played an absolutely atrocious OOC schedule, with a SOS of 238.
It's crazy to me they played 4-game weekends against both Queens and Oakland. Maybe they were just trying to build pitching depth but it removes a lot of margin for error when you do that to your RPI.
 

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I agree Georgia is hard to evaluate because of their schedule, but if they win the series against Auburn this weekend, they’re almost surely going to be the top SEC team in the pecking order. Which would basically ensure they are a top 4 national seed.
Wouldn’t mind being 4 and GA the 5, though that seems impossible. Just if we were fortunate to make it that far, playing them in that park would be great
 

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I think we are a guaranteed a top #8 seed if we win 2 more games.

Host - guaranteed
Top 8 - win 2
Top 6 - win 3
Top 3 - ACC Championship game / win NC STate series
#2 - Win ACC Championship / win NC STate Series
 
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Not impossible at all. Top 3 could easily be UCLA, GT, Auburn.
Keep in mind that UGA and Auburn play each other in their last SEC series of the regular season. So one of them will end up with another series loss. Right now, I think one of them will end up slotted ahead of us in the national seed debate entering conference tourneys. Either Auburn gets a series win and further strengthens their RPI while finishing second in the SEC…or UGA wins the series and vaults into the top 3 national seeds by running away with the regular season in the best conference in college baseball.

it does feel like the #4 national seed is the highest possible spot for UNC. And right now, I think it will be opposite either UGA, Auburn or Texas. So our Super would be very tough regardless.
 
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I think natty seeds will end up:

1) UCLA
2) GT
3) UGA (assuming series win at Auburn)
4) UNC
5) Texas
6) Alabama (assuming series win against Ole Miss)
7) Auburn
8) FSU
 
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Keep in mind that UGA and Auburn play each other in their last SEC series of the regular season. So one of them will end up with another series loss. Right now, I think one of them will end up slotted ahead of us in the national seed debate entering conference tourneys. Either Auburn gets a series win and further strengthens their RPI while finishing second in the SEC…or UGA wins the series and vaults into the top 3 national seeds by running away with the regular season in the best conference in college baseball.

it does feel like the #4 national seed is the highest possible spot for UNC. And right now, I think it will be opposite either UGA, Auburn or Texas. So our Super would be very tough regardless.
Not our super, that would be our omaha matchup
 

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Keep in mind that UGA and Auburn play each other in their last SEC series of the regular season. So one of them will end up with another series loss. Right now, I think one of them will end up slotted ahead of us in the national seed debate entering conference tourneys. Either Auburn gets a series win and further strengthens their RPI while finishing second in the SEC…or UGA wins the series and vaults into the top 3 national seeds by running away with the regular season in the best conference in college baseball.

it does feel like the #4 national seed is the highest possible spot for UNC. And right now, I think it will be opposite either UGA, Auburn or Texas. So our Super would be very tough regardless.
4 doesn’t play 5 in the Supers. You’re thinking Omaha opener. 4 plays 13 in the Supers.
 

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We haven’t been “conditioned” to believe anything. We’ve seen with our eyes that the SEC wins the national championship almost every season and is by far the best conference in the sport.

There are valid arguments to be made for UNC to be anywhere from #2 to #6 seed at this stage. The teams I would personally have above us right now in seeding are UCLA and GT. But Georgia, Auburn and Texas are also right there.
You agree with me--personally--that the Heels should be third. But, nevertheless, feel compelled to insist that "Georgia, Auburn and Texas are also right there."

Have you been following those teams specifically? I confess that I have not, having watched UGa and Texas only once each this season, and Auburn not at all. If you are in the same boat that I am, your absolute confidence that the three SEC teams must be as good as the three outsiders would therefore have to be based on league reputation, which, in turn, is based upon near constant "conditioning."

Or so it seems to me.
 

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You agree with me--personally--that the Heels should be third. But, nevertheless, feel compelled to insist that "Georgia, Auburn and Texas are also right there."

Have you been following those teams specifically? I confess that I have not, having watched UGa and Texas only once each this season, and Auburn not at all. If you are in the same boat that I am, your absolute confidence that the three SEC teams must be as good as the three outsiders would therefore have to be based on league reputation, which, in turn, is based upon near constant "conditioning."

Or so it seems to me.
Have I watched every Georgia or Auburn or Texas game like I have UNC? No, of course not.

Do I follow college baseball at large and not just UNC? Yes.

Those teams all have very impressive resumes in the toughest league in the country. UNC is right there with them because we’ve also had an excellent year.
 
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Have I watched every Georgia or Auburn or Texas game like I have UNC? No, of course not.

Do I follow college baseball at large and not just UNC? Yes.

Those teams all have very impressive resumes in the toughest league in the country. UNC is right there with them because we’ve also had an excellent year.
The "toughest league in the country." That, sir, is conditioning.

How otherwise would you "know," since you admit that you don't watch it?
 

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New BA bracket projections. They still have us as the 5 seed, paired with the Texas A&M regional, and really stuck it to us with the teams in Chapel Hill:


1. (5) North Carolina^ (ACC) 1. (12) Texas A&M^ (SEC)
2. (28) Tennessee (SEC) 2. (21) Oregon (Big Ten)
3. UCF (Big 12) 3. UTSA* (AAC)
4. Campbell* (CAA)4. Tarleton State* (WAC)
 
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I am no expert
But seeing the SEC the last few years-I am typically impressed with the dadgum size of their key hitters
I know it does not mean they can hit-but the power factor is scary to see
 

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I'm really don't understand why Auburn is above UNC. But we still need to close strong. Winning the rest of the regular season and taking the ACC Tournament should get us as high as the 2 seed. It's there for the taking.
 

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I'm really don't understand why Auburn is above UNC. But we still need to close strong. Winning the rest of the regular season and taking the ACC Tournament should get us as high as the 2 seed. It's there for the taking.
They're 7-2 in series against tournament teams (including 4 series wins against potential hosts: Florida, Mississippi State, Nebraska, Texas A&M) plus have a win against FSU in a round-robin event.
 

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That potential BA bracket is why I said earlier this year that they need to consider the strength of the 4-seeds like they've started to do with the 2s. There's no way a top-5 team should get a top-75 team as their 4 seed when over half the 4 seeds will probably be 125 or below.
 
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I think BA put them with us because local considerations are still a factor in 3 and 4 seeds but it would seem fair to place high point as the 3 seed and bring in a 4 from up north? But it's all guess work at this point but Campbell should be sent to WVU not to the number 5 national seed.
 

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I'm really don't understand why Auburn is above UNC. But we still need to close strong. Winning the rest of the regular season and taking the ACC Tournament should get us as high as the 2 seed. It's there for the taking.
Same reason their RPI is #3 (vs ours at #5): Auburn has played the toughest schedule in the country. #1 ranked SOS.

They have played 25 (!) Quad 1 games (13-12 record in those 25), whereas UNC has only played 14 such games (9-5 record in those). Word of caution, the Quads can change quickly if a team you played bounces back and forth between Quad 1 and Quad 2 depending on their performance these last couple weeks.
 
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