Allar & Steelers.

Big_O

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I was surprised to see him drafted as high as he was. Most experts (NFL scouts and talent evaluators) had him as a day 3 pick. The Steelers reached for him, which is what desperate organizations do. He has the measureables, but also has a lot of flaws that I am not sure are fixable. We will see.
 
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KingLando

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I was surprised to see him drafted as high as he was. Most experts (NFL scouts and talent evaluators) had him as a day 3 pick. The Steelers reached for him, which is what desperate organizations do. He has the measureables, but also has a lot of flaws that I am not sure are fixable. We will see.
He was always looking at going between the 2nd-4th rounds--he went where we was expected to go. It was fully dependent on who would take the 3rd QB and when
 

Nittering Nabob

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I was surprised to see him drafted as high as he was. Most experts (NFL scouts and talent evaluators) had him as a day 3 pick. The Steelers reached for him, which is what desperate organizations do. He has the measureables, but also has a lot of flaws that I am not sure are fixable. We will see.
It was always the mental part of the QB position this is concern to me. The game never really slowed down for him.
 

op2

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I saw him wearing #16 in drills. Does someone on the Stillers already have #15 or does he just want to turn over a new leaf?

ETA: I just looked at the Stillers roster and Ben Skowronek is #15. I’m not sure whether that guy is even guaranteed to make the team.
 
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psuro

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I saw him wearing #16 in drills. Does someone on the Stillers already have #15 or does he just want to turn over a new leaf?

ETA: I just looked at the Stillers roster and Ben Skowronek is #15. I’m not sure whether that guy is even guaranteed to make the team.
Didn't he wear #14 in HS? Is that number taken?
 

KingLando

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I saw him wearing #16 in drills. Does someone on the Stillers already have #15 or does he just want to turn over a new leaf?

ETA: I just looked at the Stillers roster and Ben Skowronek is #15. I’m not sure whether that guy is even guaranteed to make the team.
Skowronek is an elite ST player--he's probably a lock. Made the Pro Bowl last year
 
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Bison13

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I saw him wearing #16 in drills. Does someone on the Stillers already have #15 or does he just want to turn over a new leaf?

ETA: I just looked at the Stillers roster and Ben Skowronek is #15. I’m not sure whether that guy is even guaranteed to make the team.
Didn't he wear #14 in HS? Is that number taken?
Roman Wilson wears 14, he may get cut. Skowronek is basically guaranteed to spot on the roster because he’s their best special teams player and a receiver that can actually catch.
 
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1995PSUGrad

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I was surprised to see him drafted as high as he was. Most experts (NFL scouts and talent evaluators) had him as a day 3 pick. The Steelers reached for him, which is what desperate organizations do. He has the measureables, but also has a lot of flaws that I am not sure are fixable. We will see.
I am not a draft expert, but I heard someone say (predraft) that if Allar's footwook could be fixed, he could be the best quarterback in the draft. I am not saying that he is, I just think some people see potential in him and felt if was worth taking a chance.
 

KingLando

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Remember. if Allar is in the 2025 draft he's a top 20 pick--people forget that. If you gamble on him in the third (like Arizona did with Beck) it literally can't be a reach--there's value there. No one is expecting a third round QB to be a starter.
 
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Well I wish Drew much success and hope the Steelers can fix his mechanics and footwork but the Penn State staff and his personal coach worked on those flaws for years too without success. We’ll see.
I wonder if his personal coach was emphasizing the same developments as the PSU staff? Often it appeared to me he was thinking how to do simple basics. He wasn't the first QB to regress under CJF.
 
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Ludd

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I wonder if his personal coach was emphasizing the same developments as the PSU staff? Often it appeared to me he was thinking how to do simple basics. He wasn't the first QB to regress under CJF.
But Franklin had far more success with QB’s progressing than regressing.
 

KingLando

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But Franklin had far more success with QB’s progressing than regressing.
No--no he didn't. The only person that may have improved as a passer is Clifford. Check out Trace's senior year--his completion percentage dropped by like 10-15% (don't recall exactly)
But even if we pretend you're right (you're not) Franklin has no clue what to do with pocket passers--we all know this--Smith admitted it--why can't our fan base? If he had more success with them progressing it wasn't pocket passers.
Franklin's gone--we don't still have to pretend he didn't make major mistakes with his schemes/QBs
 

BCS PSU

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I was surprised to see him drafted as high as he was. Most experts (NFL scouts and talent evaluators) had him as a day 3 pick. The Steelers reached for him, which is what desperate organizations do. He has the measureables, but also has a lot of flaws that I am not sure are fixable. We will see.
He’s now being coached by an elite pro qb coach in McCarthy. I’m confident that McCarthy will coach him up and get every drop of Allar’s obvious physical abilities out of him. However, Allar is going to have develop his emotional maturity to succeed, and I think we all know that that was lacking while at PSU.