Kansas’ Darryn Peterson overdosed on Creatine this year
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I thought any trainer would know basketball players and creatine doesn't mix especially in season.
For the exact reason that affected DP
For the exact reason that affected DP
“YOU KNOW SOMETHING, MEAN GENE” - Peterson, maybe
Muscle Milk puts massive strain on your kidneys. Many dont know it.
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Who’s training this guy?
After a week loading phase of 20-25 grams per day, a maintenance dose of 5-10 grams per day (depending on muscle mass and physical activity) is more than enough for peak performance, as long as water intake is sufficient and maintained.
Creatine, like a lot of other things, becomes a point of diminishing returns if you take too much, and to have to go to the hospital, he must have been taking, and wasting, 10x the normal amount for an extended period of time!
After a week loading phase of 20-25 grams per day, a maintenance dose of 5-10 grams per day (depending on muscle mass and physical activity) is more than enough for peak performance, as long as water intake is sufficient and maintained.
Creatine, like a lot of other things, becomes a point of diminishing returns if you take too much, and to have to go to the hospital, he must have been taking, and wasting, 10x the normal amount for an extended period of time!
So you think he told the trainer about everything he was taking?
I’m guessin this can be blamed solely on DP‘s own stupidity. I doubt the trainer even knew he was taking it.
That guy is a strange cat. Always something weird about him.
The saga will continue with Mr stokes .
He had to get the idea from somewhere.
I'm not blaming the actual KU trainer just whoever put this notion of mega dosing creatine in DP's head.
I call BS, the amount of creatine he must have been taking was astronomical. Chances are it was something else.
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Putting to rest the myth of creatine supplementation leading to muscle cramps and dehydration - PubMed
Creatine is one of the most popular athletic supplements with sales surpassing 400 million dollars in 2004. Due to the popularity and efficacy of creatine supplementation over 200 studies have examined the effects of creatine on athletic performance. Despite the abundance of research suggesting...
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This story leading up to the draft has a purpose.I call BS, the amount of creatine he must have been taking was astronomical. Chances are it was something else.
Putting to rest the myth of creatine supplementation leading to muscle cramps and dehydration - PubMed
Creatine is one of the most popular athletic supplements with sales surpassing 400 million dollars in 2004. Due to the popularity and efficacy of creatine supplementation over 200 studies have examined the effects of creatine on athletic performance. Despite the abundance of research suggesting...
Stay away from the KU training table!!!
Yeah I dont buy that. I think everyone should take creatine.
Correctly.
Even then it's benefits for a basketball player is minimal.
Especially a skill position player like DP.
Not like he's banging down low.
There are studies now showing using 10 to 20 grams daily improve cognitive function.
100% BS. You're telling me high school athletes can take creatine without cramping issues, yet one of the world's elite athletes does and causes him cramping issues? Like you said it must have been an insane amount he was taking, and no college level trainer would have approved of that. To me it sounds like a cover up for something else.I call BS, the amount of creatine he must have been taking was astronomical. Chances are it was something else.
Putting to rest the myth of creatine supplementation leading to muscle cramps and dehydration - PubMed
Creatine is one of the most popular athletic supplements with sales surpassing 400 million dollars in 2004. Due to the popularity and efficacy of creatine supplementation over 200 studies have examined the effects of creatine on athletic performance. Despite the abundance of research suggesting...
For Bill Self to spend $7 million on a high-drama, egomaniacal prima donna flake like Stokes just six weeks or so after folding up a season in the Round of 32 with last year's No 1 high school recruit in Darryn Peterson who had his own issues all year is the epitome of Albert Einstein's definition of insanity: To repeat the same behavior and expect a different outcome.
I took creatine for awhile when I was power lifting but I didn't feel like it was really making much of a difference at the time.
It takes a few weeks if you're pre-loading a smaller amount, like 5mg/day I believe. But man once week 3-4 starts your lifts skyrocket. I was able to life for longer sessions AND almost all of my lifts went up like 5-10% in weight.
Either way, its very possible Peterson was taking some absurd amount. Some people here have said that Creatine wouldnt cause this.. well, like anything else, in moderation. Hes a young kid, very well could have been taking far too much and/or not hydrating with water.
I know nothing about this supplement but why is not considered a PED?
I take creatine pretty much every day, just 5 mg because I’m an out of shape middle aged man, but it makes me piss like a racehorse. Anything over 15 or 20mg a day is pointless and for his age 5 or 10 mg would’ve been fine, no clue why the hell he would take more than that.
Probably wasn’t hydrating enough, at 55, I take 5-10g per day.Who’s training this guy?
After a week loading phase of 20-25 grams per day, a maintenance dose of 5-10 grams per day (depending on muscle mass and physical activity) is more than enough for peak performance, as long as water intake is sufficient and maintained.
Creatine, like a lot of other things, becomes a point of diminishing returns if you take too much, and to have to go to the hospital, he must have been taking, and wasting, 10x the normal amount for an extended period of time!
Why are people saying this doesn't benefit Basketball players? This isn't 1952. Even Basketball players have a weight training program.
Creatine is both 100% a performance enhancer, and 100% legal. Every athlete in the country is doing themselves a disservice for not using it. In fact women see larger gains than men.
That being said, Darryn Peterson obviously didn’t want to play and he was sitting out and is now using that excuse. If he’s cramping from creatine supplementation, supposedly, I’m gonna have the NBA docs look at his kidneys in depth. The kid might have some kidney issues which itself is a bigger reason not to draft him.
That being said, Darryn Peterson obviously didn’t want to play and he was sitting out and is now using that excuse. If he’s cramping from creatine supplementation, supposedly, I’m gonna have the NBA docs look at his kidneys in depth. The kid might have some kidney issues which itself is a bigger reason not to draft him.
He's about to retire and it isn't his money. He doesn't give a flying flip. Yet another obstacle in the NIL era.
Did you consider asking the Google machine?
it’ll give you a quicker and more reliable answer than us knuckleheads.
Yet with all the legal problems, attitude problems and public relations nightmares Kids just keep committing to self and Kansas because Pope just doesn’t relate well. Bullish,, they are compensating them differently. Self has been a disaster, now he has medical problems. It’s the Money.
Mega dosing with 20-25 grams a day is also brain healthy and has many benefits. I don’t buy creatine caused the cramps.
I think this is spin that it safe to take Peterson number 1.
I will say part of this story was that his baseline natural creatinine was way higher than a normal person. This combined with the amount he was taking was too much. I guess it's possible but it's more than likely spin.
I will say part of this story was that his baseline natural creatinine was way higher than a normal person. This combined with the amount he was taking was too much. I guess it's possible but it's more than likely spin.
After decades, we’re still slandering creatine. Peterson is [unsurprisingly] full of shlt. Creatine is one of the few legit supplements with no real risks unless you have a preexisting kidney issue or something. We should all be taking it whether you strength train or not!
From the Mayo Clinic:
From the Mayo Clinic:
- Injury prevention and recovery.Research does not show a higher risk of muscle cramps or muscle injury in people who take creatine supplements. Some studies suggest that creatine may support injury prevention and rehabilitation in athletes, but more research is needed.
I know. Every time I hear about a serious health risk problem going around the first place I look for help is this site. Better than the Cleveland Clinic.
My guess is that this entire story is BS. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear he OD’d on some Fentanyl or something he got in some laced bud or something… it’s in everything these days. Maybe he went to a party and decided to try something. Whatever happened to him I don’t for one second think he OD’d on Creatine.
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He said September. Why was he still sitting out games in February?
He played when he felt like it. His draft projection is slipping a little. His agent is doing damage control. End of story.