BE Portal Rankings

shu67

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Here is an idea. We have lots of former SHU players playing all over the world. Why not reach out to them and ask them to scout players for us that they think can bring something to the table? Even offer them a stipend if they bring us a solid lead? We must have at least a dozen of more former players in pro leagues around the world. A great resource that can be used!
 
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HallGuy2323

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I was not trying to be a comedian. 6 weeks into the GMs tenure and your idea to get Pat Auda on the call is better than anything we’ve seen to date.

sad state we are in
Impossible. He posts on Twitter and has connections! He knows all 2000 players in the portal and knows exactly who will play here and play extremely above expectations.
 

SPK145

All-Conference
Jun 3, 2001
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Here is an idea. We have lots of former SHU players playing all over the world. Why not reach out to them and ask them to scout players for us that they think can bring something to the table? Even offer them a stipend if they bring us a solid lead? We must have at least a dozen of more former players in pro leagues around the world. A great resource that can be used!
We did that and Whitehead brought us Ardogan, LOL.
 

shu67

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Below are the Team Transfer Class Rankings from EvanMiya.com and the individual ratings of all incoming Big East Transfers. This only shows college transfers, no international players or incoming freshmen so St.John's is not ranked high. Really puts in perspective how poorly we are doing.
  • 8 Big East Teams have a Top 100 transfer, our best is #220
  • 6 teams have multiple Top 100 transfers, our 2nd transfer is #486
  • 5 BE teams are in the Top 11 Classes in the country, we are last in BE at #85 and #360 in Overall Transfer Activity.
Last year, Seton Hall was felt to be in a similar budget situation with Xavier, DePaul and Butler at the bottom of the conference.

Now, Xavier has the #7 class in the Country,
DePaul is 38th with 2 top 100 players,
Butler and Georgetown are ranked only slightly better than us.

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RankingPlayerNew TeamPositionOffensive RatingDefensive RatingTotal Rating
75Ade PopoolaDePaulSG2.991.424.41
83Noah MeeusenDePaulPG2.262.064.31
282Koree CottonDePaulSG0.731.842.57
347Kahmare HolmesDePaulSG1.60.592.19
423Magoon GwathDePaulC-0.592.451.86
561Wilson JacquesDePaulC-0.521.841.33
146Eduardo KlafkeButlerSG2.171.513.68
353Jordan EllerbeeButlerPG2.17-0.022.16
361Treyson AndersonButlerC1.290.842.13
920Samis CalderonButlerPF-0.310.630.32
16Najai HinesConnecticutC2.233.776.00
45Nikolas KhameniaConnecticutSF2.772.204.97
162Oskar GiltayConnecticutPF0.393.103.49
228Nils MachowskiConnecticutPG2.270.722.99
53Oswin ErhunmwunseCreightonC1.313.404.71
150BJ DavisCreightonPG2.071.553.62
182Wes EnisCreightonSG3.000.353.35
631Kayden EdwardsCreightonSG1.10-0.011.09
232Elmarko JacksonGeorgetownPG1.101.882.98
246Jaland LoweGeorgetownPG1.950.902.85
447Chol MachotGeorgetownC-0.862.601.74
5Sananda FruMarquettePF3.943.117.05
76Nolan MinessaleMarquetteSF2.731.684.41
14Miles ByrdProvidenceSG1.884.146.02
82Malik MackProvidencePG3.081.244.32
160Arrinten PageProvidencePF1.352.173.51
261Devin VanterpoolProvidenceSG1.071.612.68
302Gavin HightowerProvidencePG1.351.082.42
397Samson AletanProvidencePF0.801.181.97
500Ryan SabolProvidenceSG2.52-0.961.56
220Simeon WilcherSeton HallSG1.611.423.03
483Roddie Anderson IIISeton HallPG0.481.151.63
691Del JonesSeton HallPG1.14-0.210.93
963Kareem ThomasSeton HallSG0.53-0.290.24
64Donnie FreemanSt. John'sPF2.272.284.55
1633Avery BrownSt. John'sPG-0.52-0.52-1.04
10Kwame Evans Jr.VillanovaSF2.933.496.42
55Devin RoyalVillanovaSF2.821.854.68
138Elijah CrawfordVillanovaPG2.591.153.74
177Jake FiegenVillanovaSG3.48-0.113.38
277Darryl Simmons IIVillanovaPG2.66-0.052.60
19Ruben DominguezXavierSG4.951.005.95
51Chance WestryXavierSG3.481.324.80
73Tru WashingtonXavierSG2.521.934.45
114Michael NwokoXavierC2.361.573.93
518Nikolaos ChitikoudisXavierPF0.321.181.50
773Rolyns AligbeXavierPF-0.511.210.70
Fishjam is there an update to this list?
 

TheHall87

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"... lucked into Hines..." But how much different would our record have been without him. For whatever reason, he was not a major contributor. (A better question might be what would our record have been if he had played 30-32 minutes a game?)
He would never have averaged that many minutes per game.

Forget whatever real or perceived conditioning issues Hines may have had. He averaged 2.4 fouls per game in 18 minutes per.

He didn't foul out of any games but picked up four fouls in fewer than 20 minutes three times. He also had three appearances where he committed three fouls in fewer than 20 minutes.
 
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HallGuy2323

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He would never have averaged that many minutes per game.

Forget whatever real or perceived conditioning issues Hines may have had. He averaged 2.4 fouls per game in 18 minutes per.

He didn't foul out of any games but picked up four fouls in fewer than 20 minutes three times. He also had three appearances where he committed three fouls in fewer than 20 minutes.
FYI, Players are allowed 5 fouls. Scoring, rebounding and defense are slightly more important than he “might foul out.”
 

SPK145

All-Conference
Jun 3, 2001
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Fishjam is there an update to this list?
I'm too stupid to do all that analysis but here's the current BE team portal rankings per Evan Miya:

Marquette - 4
Villanova - 6
Xavier - 7
Connecticut - 10
Providence - 14
DePaul - 37
Creighton - 40
St. John's - 59
Butler - 72
Georgetown - 75
Seton Hall - 88
 
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HallGuy2323

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I'm too stupid to do all that analysis but here's the current BE team portal rankings per Evan Miya:

Marquette - 4
Villanova - 6
Xavier - 7
Connecticut - 10
Providence - 14
DePaul - 37
Creighton - 40
St. John's - 59
Butler - 72
Georgetown - 75
Seton Hall - 88
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TheHall87

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FYI, Players are allowed 5 fouls. Scoring, rebounding and defense are slightly more important than he “might foul out.”
You would have more of a case if Hines' numbers were demonstrably better than Payne's.

I like Hines. I think he has the talent to be very good -- and is clearly more talented than Payne. Foul trouble is a weakness and is something Hurley and his staff are going to have to try to coach out of him if he is to reach his potential.
 
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