CONFUSED AS HECK WHAT TRUMP IS DOING BUT STICKING WITH HIM

PalmettoTiger1 said:

You obviously have not been involved in solving. Serious issues

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PalmettoTiger1 said:

Sometimes you just got to close your eyes and trust the conductor President Donald Trump on the Trump Train

Trump has bounced around some on the ending this military action and because there are so many moving parts I will accept I am NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HIGHER PAY GRADES ARE THINKING OR IF I HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE HECK IS THE PLAN

Most Liberals will scream and rant there is no plan. Fortunately there is one that is being shaped that is mere mortals do not understand or could comprehend

The USA is changing in politics as is the world

There is a huge reset going on

Look for a movement on the Ukraine Russian conflict along with Cuba changing to an American satellite

Crazier will be Texas and Florida becoming the centers for powerful financial centers in the USA

Ken Griffin of Citadel Group is advocating a huge move from NYC to other states

Mamdanni and his socialists minions have stepped in it That is the giant cow chip

Kathy Hochul the NY Governor is really a huge loser as rich people are voting with their feet

THE WORLD IS IN A HUGE CHANGE SND RESET

BETTER BE PREPARED FOLKS

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• Not what Trump is doing.
• We should have stuck with Obama's deal.
• Don't!
• Work it out diplomatically.

Fac said:

I think it is really amusing that the lefties can now identify people with dementia.
Pretty comical.

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firegiver said:

Trump is enriching himself and empowering people like Peter Thiel (huge Epstein guy by the way), to be in control of the US, along with Israel, for decades to come.
I do not understand why that doesn't upset folks. I guess the propaganda is doing its job.

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bdgan said:

When Trump first ran for president he said we don't win wars anymore. He was correct but I'm not sure we're winning this one either. I also don't see how this war is America first. My guess is at best we will have slowed their terror down for a few years and that's worth something. Maybe we spend $10 billion less in the region for the next 7 years and that we'll breakeven on the financial cost over time. IMO that's best case. I don't think we'll ever have long lasting peace in the middle east as long as Iran and their proxies recognize Israel's right to exist and I don't see that happening. I do give Trump credit for the Abraham accords and new countries are coming around.

My question for Trump haters is what would your preferred president do if they were in charge? Let me help by eliminating a few answers that aren't constructive answers:

• Not what Trump is doing.
• We should have stuck with Obama's deal.
• Don't!
• Work it out diplomatically.

What would your preferred candidate do if they took over tomorrow?

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PalmettoTiger1 said:

Sometimes you just got to close your eyes and trust the conductor President Donald Trump on the Trump Train

Trump has bounced around some on the ending this military action and because there are so many moving parts I will accept I am NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HIGHER PAY GRADES ARE THINKING OR IF I HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE HECK IS THE PLAN

Most Liberals will scream and rant there is no plan. Fortunately there is one that is being shaped that is mere mortals do not understand or could comprehend

The USA is changing in politics as is the world

There is a huge reset going on

Look for a movement on the Ukraine Russian conflict along with Cuba changing to an American satellite

Crazier will be Texas and Florida becoming the centers for powerful financial centers in the USA

Ken Griffin of Citadel Group is advocating a huge move from NYC to other states

Mamdanni and his socialists minions have stepped in it That is the giant cow chip

Kathy Hochul the NY Governor is really a huge loser as rich people are voting with their feet

THE WORLD IS IN A HUGE CHANGE SND RESET

BETTER BE PREPARED FOLKS

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GDead_Tiger said:

Why do you still trust him? Why are you so confident he has a plan? Just look at him and listen to him talk. He’s clearly suffering from dementia. His secretary of defense is an alcoholic with no real military experience comparable to what he’s doing.

The idea that global financial markets will leave NYC for Florida (Miami?) or Texas (Houston? Dallas?) is simply ridiculous.

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firegiver said:

Trump is enriching himself and empowering people like Peter Thiel (huge Epstein guy by the way), to be in control of the US, along with Israel, for decades to come.
I do not understand why that doesn't upset folks. I guess the propaganda is doing its job.

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sleepy64561 said:

I think the targeted use of military power that Trump used to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities was “good” foreign policy given the conditions at the time.

Your question is difficult to answer because I don’t think any other president (whether dem or republican) would have gotten into this specific war at this specific point in time.

I’m in favor of preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons (although it’s difficult to objectively say who can and cannot have nuclear weapons) and especially in favor of supporting the Iranian people against a brutal regime. But I don’t think this moment in time warranted what Trump executed, and the fallout is a global impact to the economy.

I honestly don’t know what the next move is now, this is a much more complicated issue now than it was before the war started.

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Fac said:

I think it is really amusing that the lefties can now identify people with dementia.
Pretty comical.

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baltimorened said:

it's going to be interesting to see if a "new world order" comes from this as some are predicting. There is a possibility that the structure of oil production and sales might be adjusted - until the next democrat admin puts a "hold" on fossil fuels again.

It does seem as if eliminating Iran and it's proxies in the region has to have a positive impact. But we will see.

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bdgan said:

When Trump first ran for president he said we don't win wars anymore. He was correct but I'm not sure we're winning this one either. I also don't see how this war is America first. My guess is at best we will have slowed their terror down for a few years and that's worth something. Maybe we spend $10 billion less in the region for the next 7 years and that we'll breakeven on the financial cost over time. IMO that's best case. I don't think we'll ever have long lasting peace in the middle east as long as Iran and their proxies recognize Israel's right to exist and I don't see that happening. I do give Trump credit for the Abraham accords and new countries are coming around.

My question for Trump haters is what would your preferred president do if they were in charge? Let me help by eliminating a few answers that aren't constructive answers:

• Not what Trump is doing.
• We should have stuck with Obama's deal.
• Don't!
• Work it out diplomatically.

What would your preferred candidate do if they took over tomorrow?

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PalmettoTiger1 said:

Sometimes you just got to close your eyes and trust the conductor President Donald Trump on the Trump Train

Trump has bounced around some on the ending this military action and because there are so many moving parts I will accept I am NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HIGHER PAY GRADES ARE THINKING OR IF I HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE HECK IS THE PLAN

Most Liberals will scream and rant there is no plan. Fortunately there is one that is being shaped that is mere mortals do not understand or could comprehend

The USA is changing in politics as is the world

There is a huge reset going on

Look for a movement on the Ukraine Russian conflict along with Cuba changing to an American satellite

Crazier will be Texas and Florida becoming the centers for powerful financial centers in the USA

Ken Griffin of Citadel Group is advocating a huge move from NYC to other states

Mamdanni and his socialists minions have stepped in it That is the giant cow chip

Kathy Hochul the NY Governor is really a huge loser as rich people are voting with their feet

THE WORLD IS IN A HUGE CHANGE SND RESET

BETTER BE PREPARED FOLKS

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sleepy64561 said:

I am legit worried about a degradation of the liberal world order. I don’t think it was perfect by any means, but it seemed pretty successful for a while. This approach Trump is taking benefits China the most imo.

I’m legitimately surprised that events such as the Iran war don’t seem to incentivize general republican voters to see the benefits of renewable and nuclear energy (independent of the discussion about global warming, which I understand most of us would disagree about at least some points).

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nytigerfan said:

The problem is Trump has created a government where dissent is not tolerated. Anyone who speaks out against what Trump and Hegseth, who resigned while we were bombing civilian boats off the coast, are doing is shown the door and then becomes an enemy of Trump for the rest of their life. There have been quite a few generals and admirals who resigned while we were bombing civilian boats off Venezuela. If you create a government where anyone who does speak up with a counter opinion is fired or bullied for the rest of their life if they do speak up, this is what we get. We are 100% at the whims of President Trump, who has no ******* idea what he's doing.

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hopefultiger13 said:

The first thing I'd point out is that Iran has been about 15 minutes away from having a nuclear weapon for 20+ years now. I think Trump hurt their nuclear ambitions by bombing them (twice). I also think that Obama's deal hurt them as well. You can tell because despite that "15 minutes away" talk, they somehow never managed to get one under Obama's deal despite 2 years of that deal. There's obviously more than one way to skin that cat.

So I'm not on board with you just saying that sticking with Obama's deal was not contructive. THAT'S what we should be shooting for now. The biggest part of their military is damaged right now. NOW is the time to get the UN involved and get those inspectors in... I've heard multiple times how "We have all the cards". Let's play them now instead of spending $1Billion a day to get nothing done.

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baltimorened said:

now, to be sure, I don't speak for everybody, but I really don't think general Republican voters are against renewables. In fact, now speaking for myself, I agree with obama's policy "all of the above". Where the disagreement comes, again IMO, is political direction on which of "all of the above" voters can have or use. Let each one of the capabilities compete for customers, don't limit gas ranges, provide subsidies for electric cars, etc.

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bdgan said:

I didn't say Obama's deal wasn't constructive. I believe it helped slow Iran down but I also believe they were enriching and storing uranium at secret sites that weren't being inspected. I also believe the sanctions relief and $100 billion we gave them helped them fund their terrorist activities.

But none of that's my point. I'm asking what somebody's preferred candidate would do at this point. Saying that Trump should have never pulled out of Obama's plan is an opinion about the past, not a recommendation about the future.

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fskillet said:

What I want from my imaginary candidate:

1. Cut our losses and leave the SoH.
2. Negotiate with current regime leadership to implement something similar to the JCPOA.
3. Tell Israel if they continue bombing neighboring countries we're cutting off military funding. The tail shouldn't be wagging the dog.
4. ??
5. Profit.

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baltimorened said:

[email protected] one thing to consider is that the Iranian representative to the peace talks said that Iran had enough enriched uranium (60%) for 11 bombs. I don't know if that was truth or bravado, but if they had sufficient uranium for bomb, they were closer than you think. According to AI, you can go from 60-90% in an estimated 4-5 weeks.

Another data point, you only need enriched uranium at about 3.5% or so for commercial uses. So, there's only one reason why you'd need 60% enriched uranium.

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hopefultiger13 said:

Well, I honestly don't have any idea. I was told just 6 months ago by the POTUS himself that the Iranian Nuclear program was OBLITERATED. Now I'm being told that they have the materials for 11 bombs... It sure sounds like SOMEONE is full of shiiit. The really sad thing is that I'm not sure who that is. It USED to be that when the POTUS said things from a military context, you could believe it, and could just assume that anything Iran said was a lie. Now I don't believe Iran any more than I used to, but you have to take was the POTUS says with a HUGE grain of salt as well.

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baltimorened said:

don't know if you were in the service...but in the Army, every person I ever worked for welcomed your opinion, even dissent. But, when the decision was made, it was expected that everyone in the command would execute that decision as if it were their own. If your conscience wouldn't allow you to do that then you were open to find another position.

I operated the same way when I moved to civilian life. I welcomed everyone's opinion, but once the decision was made, if you couldn't support it, then I helped find that person another job in the company. In any organization, you can't row the boat if someone is rowing in the opposite direction.

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baltimorened said:

[email protected] one thing to consider is that the Iranian representative to the peace talks said that Iran had enough enriched uranium (60%) for 11 bombs. I don't know if that was truth or bravado, but if they had sufficient uranium for bomb, they were closer than you think. According to AI, you can go from 60-90% in an estimated 4-5 weeks.

Another data point, you only need enriched uranium at about 3.5% or so for commercial uses. So, there's only one reason why you'd need 60% enriched uranium.

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bdgan said:

You seem to think Iran leadership would negotiate in good faith. You also seem to be OK with Iran saying Israel has no right to exist and to continue forcing their ideology throughout their proxies the middle east.

I have no idea what ?? and profit mean.

I'm not trying to fight you on this. I personally think it's time we focus more on home and reduce our efforts to be the world's policeman. I just think things are complicated.

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bdgan said:

Do you think the next democrat president will stop using Palantir software?

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hopefultiger13 said:

Well, I honestly don't have any idea. I was told just 6 months ago by the POTUS himself that the Iranian Nuclear program was OBLITERATED. Now I'm being told that they have the materials for 11 bombs... It sure sounds like SOMEONE is full of shiiit. The really sad thing is that I'm not sure who that is. It USED to be that when the POTUS said things from a military context, you could believe it, and could just assume that anything Iran said was a lie. Now I don't believe Iran any more than I used to, but you have to take was the POTUS says with a HUGE grain of salt as well.

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PalmettoTiger1 said:

Sometimes you just got to close your eyes and trust the conductor President Donald Trump on the Trump Train

Trump has bounced around some on the ending this military action and because there are so many moving parts I will accept I am NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HIGHER PAY GRADES ARE THINKING OR IF I HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE HECK IS THE PLAN

Most Liberals will scream and rant there is no plan. Fortunately there is one that is being shaped that is mere mortals do not understand or could comprehend

The USA is changing in politics as is the world

There is a huge reset going on

Look for a movement on the Ukraine Russian conflict along with Cuba changing to an American satellite

Crazier will be Texas and Florida becoming the centers for powerful financial centers in the USA

Ken Griffin of Citadel Group is advocating a huge move from NYC to other states

Mamdanni and his socialists minions have stepped in it That is the giant cow chip

Kathy Hochul the NY Governor is really a huge loser as rich people are voting with their feet

THE WORLD IS IN A HUGE CHANGE SND RESET

BETTER BE PREPARED FOLKS

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GDead_Tiger said:

Why do you still trust him? Why are you so confident he has a plan? Just look at him and listen to him talk. He’s clearly suffering from dementia. His secretary of defense is an alcoholic with no real military experience comparable to what he’s doing.

The idea that global financial markets will leave NYC for Florida (Miami?) or Texas (Houston? Dallas?) is simply ridiculous.

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fskillet said:

I think it is really amusing that RWers can no longer identify people with dementia.
Pretty comical.

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hopefultiger13 said:

You know, I think that's a fair statement. You have a really good point. Of course the reverse is also true. You guys that were talking about Biden slipping don't seem to being saying the same thing about Trump. Have you forgotten how to identify it?

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