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catfanlou

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We are in May. Any reasonable person who knows basketball will tell you with the pieces we have assembled we are only one or two
superstars from being a final four team. On paper this team is much better than last year. Not a final four team. But better than last year.

Anyone who has played knows it all starts with a point guard. We had none last year . We have two excellent ones and two backups.

Mareno will be much better in year two . the Senegal kid is for real. Williams and Hawthorne are above average players.

Yes we need an outstanding 4/5 capable of starting and or playing 27 to 30 minutes . and we need a Dude. That is two players and
it is only May for God's sake. Why tear the program down now? It is only counter productive. Gives other coaches fodder to show recruits as
to how crazy our fans are . Let it play out. If the chicken littles on this board are right then a change will be made .

But don't get your jockstraps in a wad before recruiting is OVER/ and don't believe every idiot on this board. Many are not UK fans.
 
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catfanlou said:
We are in May. Any reasonable person who knows basketball will tell you with the pieces we have assembled we are only one or two
superstars from being a final four team. On paper this team is much better than last year. Not a final four team. But better than last year.

Anyone who has played knows it all starts with a point guard. We had none last year . We have two excellent ones and two backups.

Mareno will be much better in year two . the Senegal kid is for real. Williams and Hawthorne are above average players.

Yes we need an outstanding 4/5 capable of starting and or playing 27 to 30 minutes . and we need a Dude. That is two players and
it is only May for God's sake. Why tear the program down now? It is only counter productive. Gives other coaches fodder to show recruits as
to how crazy our fans are . Let it play out. If the chicken littles on this board are right then a change will be made .

But don't get your jockstraps in a wad before recruiting is OVER/ and don't believe every idiot on this board. Many are not UK fans.
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Williams 😂anyway Just in case you’re unaware, Mark Pope is the current head coach. Take it to the bank. 14 plus losses and 10th in the sec. Florida Tennessee and Arkansas are loaded.
 
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We are in year three with our coach and a final four should not only be on the table but the goal. I don’t get these threads. Every other rival of ours is loading up and we can’t even fill our roster up.

This is another 12-15 loss season if not worse and anyone telling themselves anything differently is in la la land. Bottom 6 roster in the SEC with a bottom 6 coach. I wish I could pump myself up like some of you guys but I refuse to do it and look silly when we are hot garbage.
 
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Can you say with a straight face this portal season and hs recruiting has been a success??? This isn’t year 1, we are going on year 3 and seems like we haven’t moved or made any progress. I want and hope he does turn this around but what from his past experience along with the current state says this is the case?? We have 1 hs recruit for ‘26 and we hired his dad to get him……it’s really hard to be positive when other programs seem to be leaving us way behind.
 
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I believe the concern is where are those 2 players? Are there any even left? And are there any left that are realistic? Forget about Momcilovic for a second which looks like a very very long shot. Besides him, what is out there that can actually make this team 2 steps better.
Once those questions have a more clear answer, then people would ease up
 
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4UK4life1 said:
I believe the concern is where are those 2 players? Are there any even left? And are there any left that are realistic? Forget about Momcilovic for a second which looks like a very very long shot. Besides him, what is out there that can actually make this team 2 steps better.
Once those questions have a more clear answer, then people would ease up
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LOL, no they wouldn't. Do you realize how many here not only think Pope is doing poorly in a number of areas (can't disagree), but also they don't like the guy? I'm not going into the reasons why they don't like him.
 
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We are UK, every year should be a legit chance to win the SEC & go far in the NCAA tourney. It is a different time now where any school with rich boosters/alumni can spend, the landscape has changed, again, we are UK, we should be there with every other school & not lose our place. This downward spiral started with Calipari, his last 5-6 years, then the dumb **** Mitch Barnhart hires Pope, I have no idea really, but, if what's been said is true, Donovan was interested & Barnhart couldn't wait 4 days till the NBA season ended. Pope's first team did some good things, beat like 9 or 10 top 25 teams, they also looked like **** in several games & sucked at defense, however, they ended up a 3 seed & could've gone further if not for the injuries to Butler & Robinson. Last year totally sucked, if not for Oweh, we really would've sucked. I can say that so far, the year 3 roster looks better on paper at the guard positions at least, hopefully Kam & Hawthorne have big years & there's still time to add a few good players that withdraw from the draft or maybe the international route? If this coming season sucks, Pope will be gone, I'm a true blue Kentucky fan & I will never root for them to lose, Pope will either figure it out or he won't.
 
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It's not really hateful. It's the ones sticking up for Pope that come telling the other fans to stfu or attacking like crazy. Then that's why it gets hateful. Like the little spoiled kids that finally get their *** whooped at school then run home to mamma and cry.
 
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I dont think the roster is as DIRE as some but even if you assume some of the frontcourt guys like Williams and Hawthorne and Ousmane are actually plus players, even the best I could envision assuming we don't get one of the borderline draft guys late would be like..a 20-11 type year and an 8 seed or so, which is not what people are looking for in year 3.

If the frontcourt doesn't take a leap and ousmane isn't as good as hoped, it could be worse. I actually like the guards we got.
 

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You wanna know who really hates UK? Those who act like everything is perfectly fine with this program. Those who are ok with the subpar that has been put on the floor under Pope. Y’all really hate UK because you would rather them be mediocre than strive for greatness.
 
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Graves and Momcilovic (their equivalent or better), added to this roster would be one of the few ways Mark Pope can say it was a successful offseason. With one of them, it’s not a failure, but it’s still arguably top 25-30 in the country. Add neither, or anyone close to them and it’s going to be a long NIT nightmare of a season. There’s not a true fan on the planet who doesn’t want Kentucky to succeed, be able to brag, and feel good about our team.

Just terrible planning all around as far as I’m concerned.
 
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anot said:
It's not really hateful. It's the ones sticking up for Pope that come telling the other fans to stfu or attacking like crazy. Then that's why it gets hateful. Like the little spoiled kids that finally get their *** whooped at school then run home to mamma and cry.
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The complaining and hate here is constant and overwhelming. If you try to point out any inkling of positivity or any possibly reasonable justification for our struggles other than everyone sucks and is stealing money from us then you are attacked relentlessly. After a certain amount of personal attacks and name calling the few people who try to be somewhat positive sometimes choose to push back on it.
 
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caliman said:
You wanna know who really hates UK? Those who act like everything is perfectly fine with this program. Those who are ok with the subpar that has been put on the floor under Pope. Y’all really hate UK because you would rather them be mediocre than strive for greatness.
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No one is acting like everything is perfectly fine with the current results. It is just a matter of it seems pretty certain Pope is getting year 3 regardless and all the negativity only works against him and our team. I choose to get behind him and our team and hope for the best. If things do not improve appreciably there will most likely be a change by this time next year. All the whining and crying is not likely to help anything from my point of view.
 
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catfanlou said:
We are in May. Any reasonable person who knows basketball will tell you with the pieces we have assembled we are only one or two
superstars from being a final four team. On paper this team is much better than last year. Not a final four team. But better than last year.

Anyone who has played knows it all starts with a point guard. We had none last year . We have two excellent ones and two backups.

Mareno will be much better in year two . the Senegal kid is for real. Williams and Hawthorne are above average players.

Yes we need an outstanding 4/5 capable of starting and or playing 27 to 30 minutes . and we need a Dude. That is two players and
it is only May for God's sake. Why tear the program down now? It is only counter productive. Gives other coaches fodder to show recruits as
to how crazy our fans are . Let it play out. If the chicken littles on this board are right then a change will be made .

But don't get your jockstraps in a wad before recruiting is OVER/ and don't believe every idiot on this board. Many are not UK fans.
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I'll not make any predictions about the upcoming season or declarations as to how good the roster will prove to be. There are question marks and there is potential. I am a Kentucky fan and I will root for those trying to bring us success until we achieve it or a change is made and then I will get behind the new regime if that is how it works out.
 
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LOL, no they wouldn't. Do you realize how many here not only think Pope is doing poorly in a number of areas (can't disagree), but also they don't like the guy? I'm not going into the reasons why they don't like him.
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I don’t like pope. And it has to do with results and not accepting accountability. Using injuries, a locker room incident, assistant coaches, calling refs MFers that cheated us, fatigue and scheduling issues. Everything is everyone else fault in the eye of mark pope. And he wants to play the victim. “ I spent a lot of time feeling like I’d like to curl up and kill myself”. Then making jokes after a horrible season, saying we are saving our makes for the ncaa tournament and calling other kids liars when they say Kentucky offered him so much money. I’d rather listen to calipari call us basketball Bennie’s over this BS. Get him out of here. He clearly doesn’t understand the assignment.
 
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Anon1776024529 said:
I don’t like pope. And it has to do with results and not accepting accountability. Using injuries, a locker room incident, assistant coaches, calling refs MFers that cheated us, fatigue and scheduling issues. Everything is everyone else fault in the eye of mark pope. And he wants to play the victim. “ I spent a lot of time feeling like I’d like to curl up and kill myself”. Then making jokes after a horrible season, saying we are saving our makes for the ncaa tournament and calling other kids liars when they say Kentucky offered him so much money. I’d rather listen to calipari call us basketball Bennie’s over this BS. Get him out of here. He clearly doesn’t understand the assignment.
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Acting like injuries and the toughest schedules in school history do not have a legitimate impact is ridiculous. That doesn't mean those are the only problems or the need to get things improved going forward isn't a pressing concern but they are very real factors.
 
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With each passing day it becomes increasingly harder to feel much optimism about next year's team. There are massive flaws in the roster make up. Questions for which there are no answer right now. 1 Who plays backup center when Moreno needs a blow or is in foul trouble.2. Who takes Owehs place. 3 Is anyone on roster really good enough to play the 4 at the level we need. I just don't see it, nor do I see anyone out there anymore who we can realistically get that can fill these holes. We will win some games but I'm not at all confident we will win many of the big ones.
 
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catfanlou said:
We are in May. Any reasonable person who knows basketball will tell you with the pieces we have assembled we are only one or two
superstars from being a final four team. On paper this team is much better than last year. Not a final four team. But better than last year.

Anyone who has played knows it all starts with a point guard. We had none last year . We have two excellent ones and two backups.

Mareno will be much better in year two . the Senegal kid is for real. Williams and Hawthorne are above average players.

Yes we need an outstanding 4/5 capable of starting and or playing 27 to 30 minutes . and we need a Dude. That is two players and
it is only May for God's sake. Why tear the program down now? It is only counter productive. Gives other coaches fodder to show recruits as
to how crazy our fans are . Let it play out. If the chicken littles on this board are right then a change will be made .

But don't get your jockstraps in a wad before recruiting is OVER/ and don't believe every idiot on this board. Many are not UK fans.
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This silly quote is partly why UK is in trouble. Face reality people. Mashburn is not walking thru that door. This is a nightmare situation and the sooner people admit it, the faster a solution can be worked on.
 
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catfanlou said:
We are in May. Any reasonable person who knows basketball will tell you with the pieces we have assembled we are only one or two
superstars from being a final four team. On paper this team is much better than last year. Not a final four team. But better than last year.

Anyone who has played knows it all starts with a point guard. We had none last year . We have two excellent ones and two backups.

Mareno will be much better in year two . the Senegal kid is for real. Williams and Hawthorne are above average players.

Yes we need an outstanding 4/5 capable of starting and or playing 27 to 30 minutes . and we need a Dude. That is two players and
it is only May for God's sake. Why tear the program down now? It is only counter productive. Gives other coaches fodder to show recruits as
to how crazy our fans are . Let it play out. If the chicken littles on this board are right then a change will be made .

But don't get your jockstraps in a wad before recruiting is OVER/ and don't believe every idiot on this board. Many are not UK fans.
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Another narrow minded poster who unfortunately can't discern what nuance means. Let me help you with this analogy.

If you owned a business and you hire a guy who is supposed to take care of sales/operations. But your hire is not bringing in clients to sustain your business, your clients are leaving because you can't fulfill your clients needs. Do you still keep your hire on or let him go? (5 bucks says, you won't answer this question)

Did you know that you can support something and still disagree? Or are you a blind follower in everything with no thought of your own?

Your opinion is not fact. And a lot of what you think is right, has no verifiable evidence to suggest you have any idea what you're talking about. No one knows how Hawthorne will play. He is a massively unknown. Kam, has the ability to be a good player, but can he be consistent to a degree the team needs from him?

You say you know ball, but can you show me proof that Pope can develop players? Can you show me how having Lowe would have progressed the team from last year? Why do you think we have excellent players on this years roster, can you elaborate on that? Telling me they're good is an opinion. I want to see if you actually know ball.
 
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catfanlou said:
We are in May. Any reasonable person who knows basketball will tell you with the pieces we have assembled we are only one or two
superstars from being a final four team. On paper this team is much better than last year. Not a final four team. But better than last year.

Anyone who has played knows it all starts with a point guard. We had none last year . We have two excellent ones and two backups.

Mareno will be much better in year two . the Senegal kid is for real. Williams and Hawthorne are above average players.

Yes we need an outstanding 4/5 capable of starting and or playing 27 to 30 minutes . and we need a Dude. That is two players and
it is only May for God's sake. Why tear the program down now? It is only counter productive. Gives other coaches fodder to show recruits as
to how crazy our fans are . Let it play out. If the chicken littles on this board are right then a change will be made .

But don't get your jockstraps in a wad before recruiting is OVER/ and don't believe every idiot on this board. Many are not UK fans.
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One or two Superstars? You mean like Kevin Durant/SGA superstars? I mean where are they at, and what makes you think Pope could sign them if they even show up? This sounds like you have been huffing copium. The roster as it currently sits won’t even be as good as last year.
 
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This roster is not in as bad a shape as many believes. There are 2 McDonalds All American in the starting lineup. The 2 starting guards will be the best combo of starting guards since 2019 by far. If Brandon Hawthorne who was a top 35 recruit plays well this team can be really good. Still need another big IMO at backup Center.
 
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MarvinHagler89 said:
This is a very effeminate post. Hard truths do not always equate to being anti UK or hateful. Saying Pope is not meeting the standard and has to go is just honesty. I don’t hate the guy but he’s not going to cut it.
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They're always the most fragile. They prefer to live in a world of delusion than actually come to grips of reality.

These types always, ALWAYS worship the coach no matter what. They always think the team is better than they are. We saw it at the end of Tubby, saw it for Billy, saw it even with Cal at the end, and see it with Pope.
 
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paulcalhoun_rivals397471 said:
Acting like injuries and the toughest schedules in school history do not have a legitimate impact is ridiculous. That doesn't mean those are the only problems or the need to get things improved going forward isn't a pressing concern but they are very real factors
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Calipari had injuries and a tough schedule his last 2 seasons as well. Maybe we win more games if savvier wheeler, Aaron Bradshaw were healthy. Maybe we win more games if Z was eligible from the get go. If my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle. UNC didn’t spare Hubert because Caleb Wilson got hurt and we shouldn’t spare pope. ****, one of the kids had a torn ACL when pope STARTED recruiting him. The excuses are endless.
 
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Not sure why this is difficult for some to understand. Pope and the program are two different things, they are not one and the same. The program is above Mark Pope. If you’re looking at the program and what it needs to be sustained, then you’ll understand it. If your idea of Kentucky is a face of the program, you won’t understand it.

OP sees UK as a face and that face is Mark Pope. This is the problem with many people like this. The program is the program, the program is not Mark Pope.
 
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catfanlou said:
We are in May. Any reasonable person who knows basketball will tell you with the pieces we have assembled we are only one or two
superstars from being a final four team. On paper this team is much better than last year. Not a final four team. But better than last year.

Anyone who has played knows it all starts with a point guard. We had none last year . We have two excellent ones and two backups.

Mareno will be much better in year two . the Senegal kid is for real. Williams and Hawthorne are above average players.

Yes we need an outstanding 4/5 capable of starting and or playing 27 to 30 minutes . and we need a Dude. That is two players and
it is only May for God's sake. Why tear the program down now? It is only counter productive. Gives other coaches fodder to show recruits as
to how crazy our fans are . Let it play out. If the chicken littles on this board are right then a change will be made .

But don't get your jockstraps in a wad before recruiting is OVER/ and don't believe every idiot on this board. Many are not UK fans.
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Some of the negativity is from trolls, this site has more trolls than just about any site I have seen.
 
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  • we currently have a roster that is projected to be outside the top 25 to start the season
  • there are very few pieces we could add at this point to that would raise our ceiling and potential
  • if the media made conference rankings today, we would be in the bottom third of the leauge
  • as bad as cal was towards the end, he had us ranked, landing talented players and got good seeds in the NCAAT, trend is going backwards in year 3 under pope
  • essentially all our rivals (UL, Tenn, Duke, Kansas, FL) are in a better place than us
  • insanely poor recruiting
  • record number of losses

not hard to see why fans are upset.
 
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Why do people believe this roster is better than last years? Last season’s portal class was ranked nationally and our most recent class is not even top 50.
I don’t believe Hawthorne or Williams are Kentucky- caliber starters and no one here has heard of the Senegal player before UK signed him.
I like Moreno, but who is going to be his back up? If we go into next season with Potter playing significant minutes, this team will lose 20 games.
I don’t like negativity either, but you also have to have some sense of realism.
 
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JimboBBN said:
We are in year three with our coach and a final four should not only be on the table but the goal. I don’t get these threads. Every other rival of ours is loading up and we can’t even fill our roster up.

This is another 12-15 loss season if not worse and anyone telling themselves anything differently is in la la land. Bottom 6 roster in the SEC with a bottom 6 coach. I wish I could pump myself up like some of you guys but I refuse to do it and look silly when we are hot garbage.
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Dear future coach, get us to a final 4 in three years or beat feet!
Y'all really do Crack me up.
 
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That's why they play the games. But man, on paper we are going to get hammered out of conference and in league play. This will be the toughest season we've had to deal with in some time. The schedule is set up for a program stacked with top talent. We're not any more.
 
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BBNinSCar said:
Why do people believe this roster is better than last years? Last season’s portal class was ranked nationally and our most recent class is not even top 50.
I don’t believe Hawthorne or Williams are Kentucky- caliber starters and no one here has heard of the Senegal player before UK signed him.
I like Moreno, but who is going to be his back up? If we go into next season with Potter playing significant minutes, this team will lose 20 games.
I don’t like negativity either, but you also have to have some sense of realism.
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i think the thought/hope is.....
  • dillao at PG is better than not having a PG
  • wilkens is a more complete player than chandler
  • moreno in his 2nd year will be better than his first year
  • N'Daye and McBride are better and a better fit offensively than Jelavic and MoD
  • last year we had just jasper coming off the bench to support our guards....morton should be better than him
  • k williams will be better than he was / hawthorne gives you something
but oweh carried that team with a 20 bomb every night. we dont have a guy who is going to make an all sec team....maybe moreno if he improves a ton.
 
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