Rutgers Basketball lands Kansas State transfer center Dorin Buca
Rutgers Basketball has added its second center transfer, landing a commitment from former Kansas State center and Italian native Dorin Buca.
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he's better than Fall. That's not a high bar but if he can get a few rebounds and defend Big Ten centers in a back up role that's all we're askingHe’s Romanian like Badalau and a big K-state transfer who didn’t play like Baye Fall. We’ve cracked our recruiting code.
He got minutes in those 2 games which were blow outs. Wouldnt take too much from thatThat's a big dude - better than an undersized Dortch as the backup 5. Best games were against Zona and Kansas, so maybe that's a positive.
he's better than Fall. That's not a high bar but if he can get a few rebounds and defend Big Ten centers in a back up role that's all we're asking
AgreeProbably as good as could be expected if the budget remaining was around 2 mill as reported and we’re still looking to add a Pg
Here we go again ,the " expert" goes negative,what a surprise.Hey Mr. Everthing sucks this guy comes from a power 4 team-- a " minute" ago you were bitching about RU getting mid major and lower portal players as a the " test" of abilities.He got minutes in those 2 games which were blow outs. Wouldnt take too much from that
Hes a backup center that will give 10-12 minutes per game and give fouls and some boards a solid pickup nothing more nothing lessHere we go again ,the " expert" goes negative,what a surprise.Hey Mr. Everthing sucks this guy comes from a power 4 team-- a " minute" ago you were bitching about RU getting mid major and lower portal players as a the " test" of abilities.
Let's hope he gives the same 110% that Ogbole always gaveSlight upgrade over Ogbole.
Let's have a moment of silence for those that claimed that the 2nd portal center would be worse than Ogbole.![]()
Other than him being taller, I’m not convinced he’s an upgrade over Ogbole as a backup center.Slight upgrade over Ogbole.
Let's have a moment of silence for those that claimed that the 2nd portal center would be worse than Ogbole.![]()
I'm not even sure he's the backup by the end of the year. He's much more of an intimidating factor than Gurdak. There is a podcaster out there who covers K State, and he seems to think K. State was a better team with Buca on the floor.Like the pickup. Like that hes been in the USA and has a year of high major ball as experience. legit size annd length. Protects the rim. And 23. Can give us 12+ mins as a back up. I see he also shoots the occasional 3, with only 2 made in a blowout vs Zona.
Much, much more than slight.Slight upgrade over Ogbole.
Let's have a moment of silence for those that claimed that the 2nd portal center would be worse than Ogbole.![]()
Hes a backup center that will give 10-12 minutes per game and give fouls and some boards a solid pickup nothing more nothing less
I hope you’re right but I’ll be pleasantly surprised if he’s much better. He’s a year older than Manny, and at 7’2 he shot only 51%, committed lots of fouls, had fewer rebounds per 40 minutes and could only see the floor for 13 minutes per game on a team that went 12-20. At his age (he’ll be 24 at the start of next season) how much more improvement should we expect?Much, much more than slight.
Ogbole was a disaster with his bad hands, poor awareness and positioning. Why you guys continue to overrate him is beyond me.Other than him being taller, I’m not convinced he’s an upgrade over Ogbole as a backup center.
Manny shot 60% from the field versus 51% for Buca. Manny gave us 6 rebounds in 19 minutes versus 3 rebounds in 13 minutes from Buca.
Manny fouled out once, in 20 minutes of play against MSU, while Buca fouled out 3 times, in 14 minutes, 14 minutes, and 17 minutes of play.
Also, if we could have gotten Manny back, he would’ve come back with 3 years experience playing in the B1G, and with more familiarity with Pike, coaches, and other returning players.
This guy averaged 2.0 fouls per game while playing just under 13 minutes. He’d be in foul trouble early and often as a starter.I'm not even sure he's the backup by the end of the year. He's much more of an intimidating factor than Gurdak. There is a podcaster out there who covers K State, and he seems to think K. State was a better team with Buca on the floor.
Not saying Manny is a starter. His stats are better than Buca’s and despite his bad hands he had fewer turnovers per 40 minutes than Buca.Ogbole was a disaster with his bad hands, poor awareness and positioning. Why you guys continue to overrate him is beyond me.
He’s proven he can make the trey. He might be the next Jack Sikma.
No, he's not, he's a different Ogbole. Around same age, been playing longer, yet scored the same per 40 minutes, rebounds less, blocks more and somehow turns it over more. Still, probably OK as a back up, but athleticism at the 5 won't be our thing.Slight upgrade over Ogbole.
Let's have a moment of silence for those that claimed that the 2nd portal center would be worse than Ogbole.![]()
No, he's not, he's a different Ogbole. Around same age, been playing longer, yet scored the same per 40 minutes, rebounds less, blocks more and somehow turns it over more. Still, probably OK as a back up, but athleticism at the 5 won't be our thing.
I would not have minded bringing Ogbole back as a backup despite his flaws. However, It is not easy for a player to accept going from a starter to backup and it’s not clear Ogbole would get another year of eligibility. Trying to keep Ogbole really wasn’t an option.Other than him being taller, I’m not convinced he’s an upgrade over Ogbole as a backup center.
Manny shot 60% from the field versus 51% for Buca. Manny gave us 6 rebounds in 19 minutes versus 3 rebounds in 13 minutes from Buca.
Manny fouled out once, in 20 minutes of play against MSU, while Buca fouled out 3 times, in 14 minutes, 14 minutes, and 17 minutes of play.
Also, if we could have gotten Manny back, he would’ve come back with 3 years experience playing in the B1G, and with more familiarity with Pike, coaches, and other returning players.
I think he's fine as the back up, but the only reason I don't give an A, and it could just be we can't afford what I'd consider an A, was someone who gives something a bit different than Gurdack, an ability to step outside, an ability to guard 4 and 5, or guard on the perimeter if needed, ect. Just due to size he should be a better shot blocker than Gurdack so he gives that element.A better way of putting it is probably a hybrid of what both of you said. He only played in the NCAAs one year so there’s potential for YoY development. It’s probably fair to say he won’t be a material downgrade to what Ogbole was last season and it’s within the realm of possibility that he could be a slight to modest upgrade over what Ogbole was. I say it this way because Ogbole’s best games were late last season and I personally think if he’s granted another year he will continue to improve (he definitely better year over year).
In terms of grading Pike - this one has to get an A for the back up center pick up. Can’t see anyone assigning anything different. Folks are pointing to the wrong things as BAC pointed out - who cares what he did in the blow out losses. Look at the close games (win or lose) - he had 3 blocks in 11 min vs WVU, good games against Creighton (8 rebounds) and several others. As someone who had no issue with keeping Ogbole as the back up, this is a comparable pick up - he’s 7-2 and physical - balances the ticket. Pike checked the boxes he needed to in the context of what this role is supposed to do. Nothing more. He played meaningful minutes all season long. This isn’t Maker.
This is constantly mind boggling with Ogbole. He somehow gets treated like he was Moses Malone and Hakeem all in one package. He had no on court basketball IQ as he was new to the game, bad hands as you stated and never improved at or even got a clue how to defend the pick and roll. At worst, this guy will be the same but I assume he’ll be at least slightly better, how much better? I am sure Buca has issues too, I mean we brought him here to be a backup, not the starter, Gurdack is the upgrade and starter. Ogbole is out of eligibility and Pike literally bid farewell to him after the last game of the season, there was clearly a parting of the ways between RU and Ogbole, no ill will or anything, just that his time here had clearly ended. Not sure why we keep lighting a candle for Ogbole.Ogbole was a disaster with his bad hands, poor awareness and positioning. Why you guys continue to overrate him is beyond me.
This is constantly mind boggling with Ogbole. He somehow gets treated like he was Moses Malone and Hakeem all in one package. He had no on court basketball IQ as he was new to the game, bad hands as you stated and never improved at or even got a clue how to defend the pick and roll. At worst, this guy will be the same but I assume he’ll be at least slightly better, how much better? I am sure Buca has issues too, I mean we brought him here to be a backup, not the starter, Gurdack is the upgrade and starter. Ogbole is out of eligibility and Pike literally bid farewell to him after the last game of the season, there was clearly a parting of the ways between RU and Ogbole, no ill will or anything, just that his time here had clearly ended. Not sure why we keep lighting a candle for Ogbole.
I think he's fine as the back up, but the only reason I don't give an A, and it could just be we can't afford what I'd consider an A, was someone who gives something a bit different than Gurdack, an ability to step outside, an ability to guard 4 and 5, or guard on the perimeter if needed, ect. Just due to size he should be a better shot blocker than Gurdack so he gives that element.