Analysis of Strike Zone this weekend at Texas

615dawg

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We got screwed all weekend. 54 strikes called outside the zone in three games opposed to just 11 strikes called balls.




 

HRMSU

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The timing of the bad calls is what will kill you .
It's why shady officiating works in any sport. It's when the bad call is made not how many.

I feel like Oak is building a team that competes harder when things out of their control goes against them. We still have a ways to go but I truly believe that's where the program changes and you see it in some of our comeback wins this year. Personally, I was never mature enough at any level to understand that when things out of your control go against you then fight harder. I always just got more and more upset and fell into that victim mentality. Thank God I "figured it out" as an adult.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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It's why shady officiating works in any sport. It's when the bad call is made not how many.

I feel like Oak is building a team that competes harder when things out of their control goes against them. We still have a ways to go but I truly believe that's where the program changes and you see it in some of our comeback wins this year. Personally, I was never mature enough at any level to understand that when things out of your control go against you then fight harder. I always just got more and more upset and fell into that victim mentality. Thank God I "figured it out" as an adult.
I guess that is why I like what the pros are doing now. Balls and strikes can be challenged of a selective basis,....the computer age/ modern technology.
 
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LandingDog

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It seemed like their Friday night guy was getting strike calls on basically every pitch and Thomas called a ball on the exact same pitch on numerous occasions. Their guy could throw it anywhere he wanted and it was a strike. Frei swinging at one in his eyes on a full count with 2 on didn't help things.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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It seemed like their Friday night guy was getting strike calls on basically every pitch and Thomas called a ball on the exact same pitch on numerous occasions. Their guy could throw it anywhere he wanted and it was a strike. Frei swinging at one in his eyes on a full count with 2 on didn't help things.
The guy that called behind the plate Sunday, should not be allowed to do so. (anymore)
His strike zone completely changed with the position of his head. ( I commented on it, during the game)
 

GloryDawg

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Especially Sunday the Umpire was forcing our pitchers to put it directly over the center of the plate. There was chance of getting a call on the inside corner or outside corner.
 
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Ranchdawg

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We watch a lot of girl's softball and men's baseball. I don't mind if calls are consistent no matter who is batting. I have noticed that the position of the umpires head influences their calls. The sad thing about the strike call on Reese was that the umpire was directly behind where the ball went. Normally, umpires get that call 100% right. If it had been on the outside corner it would be more excusable. I thought Foster struck out the first batter in the 3rd inning. No way those first two pitches were balls! After that batter you could see Foster was upset.
 

8dog

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That’s every pitch. From both teams. So it’s hard to tell who got hosed more. You have toggle the team at the top
 
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GoDawgz52

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While the missed balls/strikes were not the ultimate reason for the loss, the timing of some of them didn't help at all.
Ultimately the inability to throw quality pitches in the 3rd inning and the reluctancy to swing the dang bat in pressure situations throughout the game, is the reason for the loss.
The umpiring has been at best trash the entire season for all teams.
You would think the mighty SEC would be able to find better quality umpires that junior high level umps.
 

8dog

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While the missed balls/strikes were not the ultimate reason for the loss, the timing of some of them didn't help at all.
Ultimately the inability to throw quality pitches in the 3rd inning and the reluctancy to swing the dang bat in pressure situations throughout the game, is the reason for the loss.
The umpiring has been at best trash the entire season for all teams.
You would think the mighty SEC would be able to find better quality umpires that junior high level umps.
The Reese called 3rd was horrible but let’s be real, it was an 0-2 pitch and at the rate we were going last weekend, it was likely going to be a K or an out anyway.
 

bolddogge

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Really need to see the comparison TX vs State please... Pure incompetence or an agenda? Neither would be surprising.
 
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Bulldog Bruce

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We got screwed all weekend. 54 strikes called outside the zone in three games opposed to just 11 strikes called balls.




Not sure if I am reading this correctly. I am reading it as all pitches in the games. That doesn't tell me specifically if it favored one team or the other. I would be interested to see it broken up into six pics with 3 just being our pitching and 3 being Texas pitching. Where are these charts available?
 
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patdog

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One thing to consider. College pitchers already struggle hugely to throw strikes. As bad as the umpires are, if we manage to improve the umpiring, how many more walks will there be and how much longer will the already too long games run? It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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One thing to consider. College pitchers already struggle hugely to throw strikes. As bad as the umpires are, if we manage to improve the umpiring, how many more walks will there be and how much longer will the already too long games run? It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Why is this the case? Why can't college pitchers throw strikes? Areyoushittingme? This is not t-ball. I pitched through high school and didn't have problems throwing strikes. The pitchers from my day like Kenny Kurtz, Don Mundie, Steve D'Ercole, Steve Susce, Bryan Hardwick et al didn't have problems throwing strikes (except in Hawaii in the final few innings when we were ahead and the zone became the size of a basketball). Are these pitchers just trying to be so precise on the corners and overthrowing every pitch where control is an afterthought?
 

patdog

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Why is this the case? Why can't college pitchers throw strikes? Areyoushittingme? This is not t-ball. I pitched through high school and didn't have problems throwing strikes. The pitchers from my day like Kenny Kurtz, Don Mundie, Steve D'Ercole, Steve Susce, Bryan Hardwick et al didn't have problems throwing strikes (except in Hawaii in the final few innings when we were ahead and the zone became the size of a basketball). Are these pitchers just trying to be so precise on the corners and overthrowing every pitch where control is an afterthought?
Exactly. Too much trying to make the perfect pitch & not enough getting ahead in counts & putting pressure on the batter.
 
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NukeDogg

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Always frustrates me when a pitcher starts to lose control, and the strike zone shrinks as a result of it. Just makes it harder to get out of the spiral. You'll hear announcers talk about it as well, about how the ump isn't giving you the outside edges unless you demonstrate command there.

I for one welcome our new ABS overlords. A strike should be a strike whether you struck out or walked the last batter. None of this squeezing the zone BS
 

onewoof

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Mar 4, 2008
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pitchers will take as much as they can get, why not? if the ump is giving 6 inches off the plate, take it.

that being said, we need to demote umps that are as bad (for both teams) as game 3 at Texas
 

MagnoliaHunter

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Kevin Milewski should be fined every time he gets to two strikes without swinging the bat. He almost never swings until a 2 strike count but on the rare occasion that he does, good things happen.
 

thekimmer

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Some of these missed calls are touching the box. I thought if the ball touches any part of the zone it is a strike.
 
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