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rutgersal_rivals139582

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Caliknight said:
They got the transfer in 24 without a lot of NIL. The 25 team had real NIL. The guys that came with him from JMU didn't get a lot of money. They came because of him and the opportunity.

Failing to recognize this after being told time and again isn't helping your argument.

How much have you donated? Dude refuses to answer because it's not substantial. He just wants everyone else do to what he can't. Guy should really STFU about donating.
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Thank you for recognizing that Indiana spent a lot on players in ‘25. As for ‘24, Indiana spent a lot more than Rutgers , and obtained the caliber of transfers that we couldn’t. That is why they made the playoffs. Put Indianas transfers on Rutgers and our season is a lot better.

For 20+ years, I’ve done my share, maintaining my season tickets and premium parking, and that’s all anyone needs to know.

Of course, I could do more, and so could many others. Collectively, we haven’t done enough to build this football program, and that is the bottomline. I am happy to share this responsibility to do so, but it is going to take a team effort.
 
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NickRU714 said:
I don't know.
This guy seemed to think we were one of the most talented teams in the country just 2 years ago.
Sure maybe we didn't have the depth after injuries that year.
Now our talent has plummeted?
2025 and upcoming 2026 have minimal talent?

"We’re not going to be destroying teams 42-10, because we’ll be destroying teams 52-10. We have better talent than Notre Dame. Better talent than Alabama. Better talent than USC."

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We’re not going to be destroying teams 42-10, because we’ll be destroying teams 52-10. We have better talent than Notre Dame. Better talent than Alabama. Better talent than USC. Most of our opponents this year, cannot stop the run, which just happens to be our strength. Ohio State could not...
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We started the season 4-0, beating VT and Washington. Then what happened?
Injuries, which took the wind out of our sails. Lost to Nebraska 14-7, then the roof fell in against Wisconsin, losing 42-7. We still haven’t adequately replaced the defensive talent and depth. We had something like 11 sacks last year, while giving up close to 40.

What’s changed since last year? Not much. Hopefully we can do better, but only seeing incremental improvement at best.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
We started the season 4-0, beating VT and Washington. Then what happened?
Injuries, which took the wind out of our sails. Lost to Nebraska 14-7, then the roof fell in against Wisconsin, losing 42-7. We still haven’t adequately replaced the defensive talent and depth. We had something like 11 sacks last year, while giving up close to 40.

What’s changed since last year? Not much. Hopefully we can do better, but only seeing incremental improvement at best.
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So we had the talent.
Top talent in the nation.

If Schiano could get elite of the elite talent just 2 years ago, what happened?
What's changed?
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
How would they have been successful at Rutgers if they would not have had the budget to land the transfers they did? Cignetti also coached at Alabama for a number of years, so it isn’t like he was new to Div I. He’d look at our facilities and he’d laugh, especially comparing to Alabama’s facilities. He was uniquely qualified to get the job done.

Since we agree that he wouldn’t come now,
Why don’t we try giving Schiano the support he needs, and if he doesn’t get the job done, we’ll get someone else? At this point, this makes the most sense to me.
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I'm sure the facilities at IUPUI and Elon were palatial. He would have been successful at RU because he is a better coach. He certainly wouldn't have lost the winnable games that Schiano has lost. As I've pointed out, a lot of the losses in the last 2 seasons are not related to talent. They're failures of coaching. His success in year one at Indiana was due mainly to all the JMU guys he brought with him. They didn't cost a ton of money. In fact, when all of those guys went into the portal, the bluebloods didn't want any of them.
 
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NickRU714 said:
So we had the talent.
Top talent in the nation.

If Schiano could get elite of the elite talent just 2 years ago, what happened?
What's changed?
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The talent level changed.

Where is Bailey?
Where is Lewis?
Where is Kyonte Hamilton?
Where is Longerbeam?
Where is Shaquan Loyal?
Where is Igbinosun ?
Where is Eric Rogers?
Where is Flip Dixon?

Not all of these players were NFL players, but they were highly productive.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
We started the season 4-0, beating VT and Washington. Then what happened?
Injuries, which took the wind out of our sails. Lost to Nebraska 14-7, then the roof fell in against Wisconsin, losing 42-7. We still haven’t adequately replaced the defensive talent and depth. We had something like 11 sacks last year, while giving up close to 40.

What’s changed since last year? Not much. Hopefully we can do better, but only seeing incremental improvement at best.
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Schiano said that there was depth. The losses to Nebraska and Wisconsin (now and then middle of the pack B1G teams) and the loss to UCLA (a bad B1G team) were failures of preparation and execution. In other words, coaching. The loss to Illinois was CERTAINLY a failure of coaching.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals said:
I'm sure the facilities at IUPUI and Elon were palatial. He would have been successful at RU because he is a better coach. He certainly wouldn't have lost the winnable games that Schiano has lost. As I've pointed out, a lot of the losses in the last 2 seasons are not related to talent. They're failures of coaching. His success in year one at Indiana was due mainly to all the JMU guys he brought with him. They didn't cost a ton of money. In fact, when all of those guys went into the portal, the bluebloods didn't want any of them.
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Great players + Great Coaching leads to Great results. Hardly a revelation. At every level, he’s been able to recruit great players for that level. You are fixated on coaching and ignoring the quality of players he’s been able to land.

Schiano has lost a lot of winnable games, but still went to 3 bowl Games in the last 6 years, and last year, we barely missed a bowl game. This is good enough for the support we have. If you want better results, you are going to have to pony up.

We are more likely to hire the next Cignetti, if we improve our football infrastructure. The next Cignetti isn’t coming to a place that doesn’t have the resources to win. Rutgers doesn’t have enough resources to win.

you continue to overlook the $86M in infrastructure and significant NIL support, which were significant factors in his success. Spending $2.6M is significant for a QB. I would consider that a ton of money. Indiana was ready to win because they built the necessary infrastructure . We are not ready to win because we haven’t.

You continue to look for a path where we win more without more money and it doesn’t exist. Maybe in a dream season, we can win 8 or 9 games, but that’s about it.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Great players + Great Coaching leads to Great results. Hardly a revelation. At every level, he’s been able to recruit great players for that level. You are fixated on coaching and ignoring the quality of players he’s been able to land.

Schiano has lost a lot of winnable games, but still went to 3 bowl Games in the last 6 years, and last year, we barely missed a bowl game. This is good enough for the support we have. If you want better results, you are going to have to pony up.

We are more likely to hire the next Cignetti, if we improve our football infrastructure. The next Cignetti isn’t coming to a place that doesn’t have the resources to win. Rutgers doesn’t have enough resources to win.

you continue to overlook the $86M in infrastructure and significant NIL support, which were significant factors in his success. Spending $2.6M is significant for a QB. I would consider that a ton of money. Indiana was ready to win because they built the necessary infrastructure . We are not ready to win because we haven’t.

You continue to look for a path where we win more without more money and it doesn’t exist. Maybe in a dream season, we can win 8 or 9 games, but that’s about it.
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Lol When long term holders like Rutgers Al turn bearish and start to fud the roster it means a bullish season is incoming..at least 9 wins and a stingy defense incoming...
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals said:
Schiano said that there was depth. The losses to Nebraska and Wisconsin (now and then middle of the pack B1G teams) and the losses to UCLA (a bad B1G team) were failures of preparation and execution. In other words, coaching. The loss to Illinois was CERTAINLY a failure of coaching.
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Of course Schiano is going to say there was enough depth. Do you actually expect him to admit, “I didn’t recruit enough depth!” Come on, Man! Get Real! You need to be able to recognize when Schiano is gaslighting us. After all, he has to go out and recruit.

Clearly the replacements were not as capable as Lewis and Bailey, for starters, let alone Powell and Toure, who played a key role in helping lead Miami to a National Championship, by being a very productive tackler. Where is Mohamed Toure on this years team? He doesn’t exist, as far as Im concerned. I don’t care what you believe in your fantasyland. No amount of coaching was ever going to make Dariel Djabome equivalent to Mohamed Toure, for example.

We did the best we could, with what we had.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Thank you for recognizing that Indiana spent a lot on players in ‘25. As for ‘24, Indiana spent a lot more than Rutgers , and obtained the caliber of transfers that we couldn’t. That is why they made the playoffs. Put Indianas transfers on Rutgers and our season is a lot better.

For 20+ years, I’ve done my share, maintaining my season tickets and premium parking, and that’s all anyone needs to know.

Of course, I could do more, and so could many others. Collectively, we haven’t done enough to build this football program, and that is the bottomline. I am happy to share this responsibility to do so, but it is going to take a team effort.
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They spent very little on the 24 class. Schiano spent more.

Schiano lost his fast ball. He can’t coach D or develop players like he used to.

Why are you afraid to tell people how much you love donated? Don’t you want to be a leader?
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
I’m taking up so much space in your head, I should pay rent.

Thanks for your support.
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The board pick me girl is grasping at straws.



And all this to deflect from the fact that I raised these issues well before you when they joined the conference, during the BIG build fund and the start of NIL. Unlike you, I read the room and understood this is not the crowd for those conversations after trying to impress on people that more donations were needed.

But we know you're not doing this to increase donations. You're ChatGPT filled missives are a cry for attention. Always have been regardless of the topic.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Of course Schiano is going to say there was enough depth. Do you actually expect him to admit, “I didn’t recruit enough depth!” Come on, Man! Get Real! You need to be able to recognize when Schiano is gaslighting us. After all, he has to go out and recruit.

Clearly the replacements were not as capable as Lewis and Bailey, for starters, let alone Powell and Toure, who played a key role in helping lead Miami to a National Championship, by being a very productive tackler. Where is Mohamed Toure on this years team? He doesn’t exist, as far as Im concerned. I don’t care what you believe in your fantasyland. No amount of coaching was ever going to make Dariel Djabome equivalent to Mohamed Toure, for example.

We did the best we could, with what we had.
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Did we?
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Indiana spent a lot more on infrastructure and NIL than we did.

You need the talent to win, Matei. Indiana won because for two consecutive seasons they brought in the talent to win from the portal. Last year, they brought in the Heisman winner.

So It is not ridiculing to say we are not bringing in the talent to be successful. It is not ridiculing to say we don’t have the support to be successful. Having the recruiting and transfer classes towards the bottom of the Big Ten is fact. This isn’t the path to success.
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No, they didn’t bring in the Heisman winner. That’s where your argument fails. And your blind allegiance to Greg shines brightly.

They brought in a player whose numbers at Cal were marginally worse than Athan Kaliakmanis’ numbers last year and they coached Mendoza up by surrounding him with an elite coaching staff, a bunch of James Madison transfers, and incorporating the mindset of a winner throughout the program. The initial step Indiana took was much more about culture than NIL. After they showed up in 24, the money started to pour in. When was the last time RU showed up like that? It was 2006 … and what happened in 2007? And 2008? We all know …
 
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Poor Al. His transition from we will the NC every year to chastising people for not donating more thus never being able to win has been a swift downfall.

He should really just focus on Miami. No one wants his version of fandom here anymore.
 
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matei said:
No, they didn’t bring in the Heisman winner. That’s where your argument fails. And your blind allegiance to Greg shines brightly.

They brought in a player whose numbers at Cal were marginally worse than Athan Kaliakmanis’ numbers last year and they coached Mendoza up by surrounding him with an elite coaching staff, a bunch of James Madison transfers, and incorporating the mindset of a winner throughout the program. The initial step Indiana took was much more about culture than NIL. After they showed up in 24, the money started to pour in. When was the last time RU showed up like that? It was 2006 … and what happened in 2007? And 2008? We all know …
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Come on! They didn’t bring in the Heisman Winner, but they brought in a kid who was close, who had significantly better numbers than Athan ever had. I watched Mendoza almost single-handedly beat Miami, while at Cal, falling 39-38. It was one of the best games I saw all year.

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Caliknight said:
They spent very little on the 24 class. Schiano spent more.

Schiano lost his fast ball. He can’t coach D or develop players like he used to.

Why are you afraid to tell people how much you love donated? Don’t you want to be a leader?
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Schiano hasn’t lost anything. Other teams like Miami are flat out buying the best kids money can buy. That’s the biggest problem. Look at the NJ Top 20. Most taking the bag, especially Luke Wafle going to USC. We are simply not on that level.
 
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Caliknight said:
Poor Al. His transition from we will the NC every year to chastising people for not donating more thus never being able to win has been a swift downfall.

He should really just focus on Miami. No one wants his version of fandom here anymore.
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You don’t have a clue. You don’t even have football season tickets! How could you know what the fans want?
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
You don’t have a clue. You don’t even have football season tickets! How could you know what the fans want?
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I've been at multiple events with big donors. I've never seen you at one. It includes donors across many sports, including football.

I don't need season tickets. I donate enough money to have a direct line to the AD. I can go to any Rutgers event I choose with one text. You clearly aren't donating enough money to do any of that. Small fry, big belly.

Awful uppity for a guy doing nothing more than buying a season ticket for football. Do better Al
 
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Caliknight said:
I've been at multiple events with big donors. I've never seen you at one. It includes donors across many sports, including football.

I don't need season tickets. I donate enough money to have a direct line to the AD. I can go to any Rutgers event I choose with one text. You clearly aren't donating enough money to do any of that. Small fry, big belly.

Awful uppity for a guy doing nothing more than buying a season ticket for football. Do better Al
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You don’t donate to football so you can STFU and sit down. You donate to lacrosse, whom no one cares about. I do my share for football, more than most. Enjoy your big donor events.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
You don’t donate to football so you can STFU and sit down. You donate to lacrosse, whom no one cares about. I do my share for football, more than most. Enjoy your big donor events.
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Like I said, I've been at events with people with their names on buildings. I've never seen you at anything. Your just a nobody barking on a message board. Work harder so you can donate more. Then come back to us.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Congrats. Here’s a medal 🏅
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I don’t need a medal. I also don’t need some nobody demanding people donate more when they themselves donate so little no one knows who they are outside of some creepy video singing to a recruit that gets them banned. No one knows who you are in the dept. even less know who you are in Miami’s dept. You drive a C class abs look for dating advice on a football message board. The last thing you should be concerned with is how people are donating to a football team. In fact, you’re making people not want to donate.
 
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Caliknight said:
Schiano and his army of recruiters can recruit. They just can't coach. That's always been the issue. It will always be the issue. He gets outcoached on gameday routinely.

It's not shocking at all to see his protege in Miami have WTF games every season. He learned from Schiano.
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I think we know the answer to the hypothetical question of…

“Would the results be the same if Rutgers Football had the same amount of NIL, donations, etc. as _______ (insert successful program here)?”
 
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I think we know the answer to the hypothetical question of…

“Would the results be the same if Rutgers Football had the same amount of NIL, donations, etc. as _______ (insert successful program here)?”
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No. They'd be a little better but to win big, you need elite coaching. Schiano is a program builder. Great at that. But when the foundation is built and it's winning time, it's where he fails. He will very likely retire with a losing record. You can say where he coached was a big piece of it and it is, but at some point, you are what your record says you are. With the Schiano, that line was crossed a long time ago. He had the most resources at the end of the BE days in a completely watered down conference and was still never able to win it. To me, that was telling
 
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Caliknight said:
I don’t need a medal. I also don’t need some nobody demanding people donate more when they themselves donate so little no one knows who they are outside of some creepy video singing to a recruit that gets them banned. No one knows who you are in the dept. even less know who you are in Miami’s dept. You drive a C class abs look for dating advice on a football message board. The last thing you should be concerned with is how people are donating to a football team. In fact, you’re making people not want to donate.
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You need a medal because your low self esteem and insecurity could use a boost. I’m here to boost Rutgers Football and you’re here to boost your own ego.

This post shows you have no class, and no brains. I’m occupying so much space in your head, I should be paying rent. Your primary motivation is J-E-A-L-O-S-Y.

Those who know where I sit and park know I’ve done my share. I don’t owe anything to anyone who does NOTHING for football. I don’t care how many buildings you have in your name, which I’d guess to be zero. You’re a no class braggart. There’s no threshold amount, to care.

We have a big problem and that is our Big Ten Peers care more about success than we do. That is why their level of support is much greater than ours.

This is the biggest reason our recruiting is mediocre, and why it will be difficult for us to be anything but mediocre, going forward, though we all hope for better.

I’ve spoken to All American players from NJ at other places and the biggest reason they won’t consider Rutgers is Rutgers isn’t serious about success. That’s what they told me. I’ve seen the difference myself, which is most prominent, when I step on campus at Michigan and Ohio State. Michigan has two fieldhouses
, a main and auxiliary, and we don’t even have one for starters.

This is a very fixable problem. We simply need to close the functionality gap and better support NIL.

But people have to have the willingness to fix it. Everyone here wants to win, but not enough people are willing to provide the support to win.
I can’t make people want to win. They either have the desire or they don’t.

So we have two choices. Accept the mediocrity and 4-7 Win records that go along with it, which we’ve done for the past 150+ years.

Or speak frankly about our fundraising issues. People blame coaching because they don’t want to donate more. This is not to absolve coaching because we have had issues. But our biggest issue is the inability to attract elite talent for football, especially in the trenches . Where are the Anthony Davis, Darius Hamilton, and Jeremy Zuttah type recruits? Not at Rutgers. This caliber of NJ recruit is taking the bag and going elsewhere. Can’t have a good football team without being strong in the trenches. We are too weak.

Without recruiting our share of NJ elites, we will never reach the heights which we aspire to.
Nothing is going to change if we don’t raise our support. NIL has exposed this deficiency like nothing before. We need to change this or accept that we will be forever mediocre.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
Or speak frankly about our fundraising issues. People blame coaching because they don’t want to donate more. This is not to absolve coaching because we have had issues.
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This is your biggest problem and what makes you completely wrong.

EVERYONE acknowledges we are at a severe money disadvantage to the elite teams.
Not one person disagrees.

You post near weekly threads about it.
Who isn't aware of it at this point?

That will NEVER change though.

People complain and point out coaching because that can change.

No, we won't get an elite coach because of our support.
Again, that will NEVER change.

You refuse to acknowledge that the process for Rutgers isn’t: get elite funding, attract elite coach, attract elite players.
You want that - go watch Miami and OSU.

The path for Rutgers is attract an up and coming coach who can maximize our limited resources into wins. That attracts money which attracts players.

Look at Cignetti and Indiana in 2024.
They didnt spend huge amounts and predicted to make the CFP.
They were behind us going into the season.

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You even said it yourself.
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We heard this story about Lance Leipold, who is currently 1-5. Pump the brakes. Brakes failed and Cignetti says hold my beer!
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NickRU714 said:
This is your biggest problem and what makes you completely wrong.

EVERYONE acknowledges we are at a severe money disadvantage to the elite teams.
Not one person disagrees.

You post near weekly threads about it.
Who isn't aware of it at this point?

That will NEVER change though.

People complain and point out coaching because that can change.

No, we won't get an elite coach because of our support.
Again, that will NEVER change.

You refuse to acknowledge that the process for Rutgers isn’t: get elite funding, attract elite coach, attract elite players.
You want that - go watch Miami and OSU.

The path for Rutgers is attract an up and coming coach who can maximize our limited resources into wins. That attracts money which attracts players.

Look at Cignetti and Indiana in 2024.
They didnt spend huge amounts and predicted to make the CFP.
They were behind us going into the season.

www.cbssports.com

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Taking a close, detailed and opinionated look at the Big Ten ahead of the 2024 college football season
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

You even said it yourself.
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We heard this story about Lance Leipold, who is currently 1-5. Pump the brakes. Brakes failed and Cignetti says hold my beer!
www.on3.com www.on3.com
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The correct process is to support the coach we have, because he has a strong history at Rutgers of parlaying the limited support into Wins. He is perfect for our situation. We’ve gone to 3 Bowls in 6 seasons, and barely missed a bowl last year, despite our financial challenges.

Thanks to better awareness, we have significantly increased NIL support year over year, so progress is being made. More people are giving than ever before. But more must be done to be competitive with peers.

As far as I’m concerned, this is the most important issue confronting Rutgers football, so it needs to be front and Center.

Because everything that Schiano and staff does is mitigated due to lack of support, despite significantly increased operational expenses.

Tell me how we materially improve recruiting without additional support. Open to suggestions.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
You need a medal because your low self esteem and insecurity could use a boost. I’m here to boost Rutgers Football and you’re here to boost your own ego.

This post shows you have no class, and no brains. I’m occupying so much space in your head, I should be paying rent. Your primary motivation is J-E-A-L-O-S-Y.

Those who know where I sit and park know I’ve done my share. I don’t owe anything to anyone who does NOTHING for football. I don’t care how many buildings you have in your name, which I’d guess to be zero. You’re a no class braggart. There’s no threshold amount, to care.

We have a big problem and that is our Big Ten Peers care more about success than we do. That is why their level of support is much greater than ours.

This is the biggest reason our recruiting is mediocre, and why it will be difficult for us to be anything but mediocre, going forward, though we all hope for better.

I’ve spoken to All American players from NJ at other places and the biggest reason they won’t consider Rutgers is Rutgers isn’t serious about success. That’s what they told me. I’ve seen the difference myself, which is most prominent, when I step on campus at Michigan and Ohio State. Michigan has two fieldhouses
, a main and auxiliary, and we don’t even have one for starters.

This is a very fixable problem. We simply need to close the functionality gap and better support NIL.

But people have to have the willingness to fix it. Everyone here wants to win, but not enough people are willing to provide the support to win.
I can’t make people want to win. They either have the desire or they don’t.

So we have two choices. Accept the mediocrity and 4-7 Win records that go along with it, which we’ve done for the past 150+ years.

Or speak frankly about our fundraising issues. People blame coaching because they don’t want to donate more. This is not to absolve coaching because we have had issues. But our biggest issue is the inability to attract elite talent for football, especially in the trenches . Where are the Anthony Davis, Darius Hamilton, and Jeremy Zuttah type recruits? Not at Rutgers. This caliber of NJ recruit is taking the bag and going elsewhere. Can’t have a good football team without being strong in the trenches. We are too weak.

Without recruiting our share of NJ elites, we will never reach the heights which we aspire to.
Nothing is going to change if we don’t raise our support. NIL has exposed this deficiency like nothing before. We need to change this or accept that we will be forever mediocre.
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So the guy who doesn't donate anything of consequence has such a big ego that he belittles other people for not donating more. Talk about esteem issues. Just go away. You are hurting the program not helping.
 
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rutgersal_rivals139582 said:
The correct process is to support the coach we have, because he has a strong history at Rutgers of parlaying the limited support into Wins. He is perfect for our situation. We’ve gone to 3 Bowls in 6 seasons, and barely missed a bowl last year, despite our financial challenges.

Thanks to better awareness, we have significantly increased NIL support year over year, so progress is being made. More people are giving than ever before. But more must be done to be competitive with peers.

As far as I’m concerned, this is the most important issue confronting Rutgers football, so it needs to be front and Center.

Because everything that Schiano and staff does is mitigated due to lack of support, despite significantly increased operational expenses.

Tell me how we materially improve recruiting without additional support. Open to suggestions.
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Actually he doesn't. He was getting great support relative to conference foes of the past, yet still never won anything of consequence. He's just not a winner. Forget beating Michigan and Ohio St. The problem is he can't compete with teams with more than. Fine. But he gets outcoached by teams he's equivalent to. The only teams he beats are the ones he has more then. And then not always.

He's just not a good coach, as his record states. He's a builder and an organizer. When that is no longer needed, he's no longer needed.
 
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mdk02 said:
"It's just banter". On how many boards? How many variations? Is this your idea of fun? Banter designed to get people riled up?
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Apparently his strategy of attempting to be a leader is to be an annoyance. You can tell he never played competitive sports at any real level. It is any surprise he can't get a date and is so desperate he looks for help on a message board?
 
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