Max Green enters the portal after one year as a Wildcat
Northwestern sophomore guard Max Green announced his intention to leave the Wildcat program. on Wednesday after just one season.
Here's @lou v's recap of Green's decision.
Max Green enters the portal after one year as a Wildcat
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Here's @lou v's recap of Green's decision.
I'd be interested to hear from the staff as well as the HC coaches how this went wrong. There was at least a minor-something that he showed at HC that NU wasn't wasn't able to pull out of Green.
I'm also wonder if Christopher Kirkpatrick was sacrificed for Green. I think CK is going to be a nice player. He's everything his Dad was with better athleticsm.
I'm also wonder if Christopher Kirkpatrick was sacrificed for Green. I think CK is going to be a nice player. He's everything his Dad was with better athleticsm.
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The thing was shooting. He didn’t have the release for the Big Ten. The whole point of him was he could shoot, and he didn’t shoot good.
Completely irrelevant to the conversation, college of Charleston is 68% female.
John Groce just moved from Akron (where he’s really gotten them rolling) to Charleston. Hope Green can be a good culture builder there as the program resets with a new coach.
That seems like a strange move for Groce, a Midwest guy who went from the MAC to the Big Ten to the MAC again before heading South for another mid-major job. He did really well at both Ohio and Akron but struck out in the Big Ten at Illinois. I can't imagine Charleston gave him much more money. Just strikes me as an odd move.
Yes and no. On the surface it’s weird, but I think there may be some logic. It’s certainly a lateral move in terms of program prestige and competitiveness. But there are a couple reasonable motivators to make the move:
1) He’d basically already achieved the likely ceiling at Akron. He went 34-2 in the MAC his last two years. And yet he didn’t get a better offer (even Butler, which is located in his hometown and he was once an assistant, passed on him). I’m sure he felt like “what more can I realistically do here to get another shot at high major coaching?” If he has success at Charleston (which is a solid mid major program), that would really make him a no doubter for moving up for a second shot as a high major coach.
2) Akron had a leg up in the NIL game (relative to their conference peers) thanks in part to financial support from LeBron James. I had heard that he had started to withdraw himself from that arrangement, and is only supporting the academic pursuits of the university going forward
3) Groce has moved his family to Columbus, Athens, Akron, Champaign, etc. I’m guessing his wife and him were enticed by the opportunity to spend some time living in Charleston, SC.
As an Akron native, I completely understand wanting to move to Charleston. Lovely city and the Northeast Ohio winters are BRUTAL.
Hopefully, the move to Charleston will benefit both. Charleston has been rated the #1 location to live in the USA over most of the past 10 years. A carriage tour of the old section is a good way to see and learn about Charleston. The Revolutionary War's turning point was the tactical success of the battles fought in SC , weakening Cornwallis' army , leading to his surrender at Yorktown. Of course, Charleston's role in the Civil War is multifaceted from beginning to end.
Charleston is a nice town, although they took a hit in my book when they lost the Carnival contract. But we'll see what they actually do with that space. The city had something close to a billion in port development and update projects scheduled, but I think that's been "temporarily" sidelined. A big chunk of railroad shipping starts its journey there, iirc.
Also, good food and yeah a pretty inexpensive place to live or vacation.
Also, good food and yeah a pretty inexpensive place to live or vacation.
An uniformed question about Green, as well as some of the others: Do they have any choice in the matter? ie, can Collins just yank their scholarship any time he sees fit?Max Green enters the portal after one year as a Wildcat
Northwestern sophomore guard Max Green announced his intention to leave the Wildcat program. on Wednesday after just one season.www.on3.com
Here's @lou v's recap of Green's decision.
The scholarship is guaranteed for four years. But the salary is only guaranteed to the extent that was something that was negotiated up front. So let's say a player is offered a spot and a one year salary deal worth $100,000. At the end of the season the coach can say there won't be a salary next year and I think you won't get much playing time. But they can't pull the scholarship.
Interesting, thanks. So conceivably, there may come a day when a player says, "That's OK, coach, I really want that free NU degree, so I'll just stick it out and root for the team at the end of the bench."
The day might have come already.......hint: think of the returning players.
Huh. There are only 3 returning players. West, Gelo and Gill. 2 of them start. Gill will not stick around for the parchment if he is glued to the bench season.
Transferring is so easy now and lower level teams need to replace the players they lose to big boys. Players will find their level. Players want to play not watch.
Coaches like CCC are honest and if you don’t fit in future plans, he tells them. These players are all ultra competitive and they are not sticking around to ride the pine unless they are extremely close to graduating. Even then, I have my doubts,
I'm not sure this is correct. OTOH, I'm not positive about my answer either.
EDIT: I really didn't know what the f I was talking about. Thanks for the corrections below. Read the following at your own risk of a waste of time.
I believe D1 scholarships are only guaranteed for four years, according to school policy or a school-player agreement - not according to NCAA rules. And I don't think "most" schools guarantee four years by a long shot. I believe scholarships are renewable year to year.
Take a look at #4 in this link ... https://sportsepreneur.com/misconceptions-about-college-athletic-scholarships/
Last I heard, NU guarantees its scholarships for basketball players for four years. That's why players like Kevin Coble, Michael Thompson (transfer from Duke) and Johnnie Vassar were able to get their degrees years after getting booted off the team.
I have no clue if this has changed at NU in the new climate of the last couple years. I would guess it has.
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The four year guarantee is a Big 10 rule, not an ncaa or Northwestern rule.
- Tommy: "A guy puts a fancy guarantee on the box 'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside."
- Tommy: "But why do they put a guarantee on the box? Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of ****. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time."
I like to think that was a rather painful 'young coach learning experience'. afaik it's only happened the one time, and I suspect it's because he's gotten better at negotiating and communicating with recruits to prevent a recurrence.
Also, looks like 2014 was when it happened: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/
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Also, looks like 2014 was when it happened: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/
Big Ten first league to guarantee 4-year scholarships - Indianapolis Business Journal
The policy is effective immediately, meaning all current Big Ten athletic scholarships are now guaranteed. The 14 universities in the Big Ten provide about $200 million in direct financial aid to almost 9,500 athletes in 42 sports.
www.ibj.com
Well according to many of the denizens of the old Rivals board, it didn’t happen and was all fabricated
I like to think that was a rather painful 'young coach learning experience'. afaik it's only happened the one time, and I suspect it's because he's gotten better at negotiating and communicating with recruits to prevent a recurrence.
Also, looks like 2014 was when it happened: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/
Big Ten first league to guarantee 4-year scholarships - Indianapolis Business Journal
The policy is effective immediately, meaning all current Big Ten athletic scholarships are now guaranteed. The 14 universities in the Big Ten provide about $200 million in direct financial aid to almost 9,500 athletes in 42 sports.
I like to think it was because Vassar was a POS.
However, we’ll continue to get the defense of Vassar by the insiders on this board.
Could be both, tho, couldn't it? In fact if Vassar was a less than stellar character, which some seem to believe, that would also be a tough situation the young coach needs to learn how to handle.
Conceivably, but won’t happen in this current professional environment.