Fans give money to sports they care about. Definitely any revenue sharing should only go to football and men's basketball if you were treating it like a business. They're the only ones with "profit" to distribute, and it doesn't make sense to share revenue with players when expenses for their sport aren't being covered by the revenue they're generating.
You are correct but I am meaning about the NIL money controlled by the school. I always said there should be no NIL money from the school, just don't prevent the players from earning money on their own.
This is the answer. Baseball is advertising for MSU. Advertising is an expense in any business. But bringing 14,000 people to campus and generating excitement for the fan base. That helps generate money even though you can't directly tie it to the actual event.
There isn’t really any NIL money “controlled by the school”. Not enough to really matter, anyway. I mean, on paper, there is, and there are protections in place to allow for plausible deniability there. But, the reality is wealthy folks write big checks, and they don’t leave a lot of room for misinterpretation for what those checks are for.
Yeah that what I was going to say, Bruce is talking 20.5M rev share. Theoretically it flows from the TV money, so that's how it should be distributed, which means very little to baseball. But the way it's set up is that it's just another expense, and not tied to actual revenue. So essentially the schools can prioritize how they want, among the TV money and donor money. And that's what the accountants won't ever understand. Until there is a lawsuit where football players demand all the rev share, this is how it's going to be.
Agree, rev share from the school is the worst decision ever made. They could have settled the suit without rev share. But oh well, toothpaste is out of the tube.
And so is SEF funds and what ever this 1878 generates. I assume the school controls which athlete gets money from those entities and how much.
SEF is under the school. It just creates revenue just like TV money. It's still maxed annually at 20.5M.
I thought this whole collective thing allowed for communication between them and the school? I consider communication control. I don't figure the collective is offering money to kids the school doesn't want.
Incorrect. You can raise from the collective how ever much you can. The only part the schools have control over is the 20.5 REV share. NIL and collectives still exists
That’s revenue share money, not NIL collective money.
Try about 28-30MM for football. 14-15 for MBB and probably about 2 to 3 on baseball(most of that is NIL collective money).
They can communicate with the school.
That’s not all revenue share money. The revenue share is capped at $20.5 million for everybody.That’s exactly what I was trying to say. Again you didn’t thing we would have that much this past portsl cycle and we will increase thst this coming season as well
The $30 million for football (if it’s even accurate) is $15 million from revenue share and $15 million from NIL.
For comparison, Indiana had $6-$8 million more in NIL than that. Texas had double the amount. Everyone is spending the same $15-$16 million on football, with rare exceptions like UConn who are heavily investing in basketball instead.
We didn’t have much this portal cycle, and it shows. Big time.
I've appreciated your number crunching on this stuff, very much. But what you cannot calculate from the available spreadsheets are how much money got donated to the University based on the performance of our baseball team (or any other sport), or how having those competitive baseball weekends improved student life resulting in improved student recruiting and retention, and, later, increased alumni donations from those students.
Not sure how the answer to this question is relevant, but the same could be asked of fully privatized NIL. In general, the answer to both is “it depends”. For example, it’s very possible that Lebby has wanted to use some collective money to close the deal on a WR, but 70% of money needed was earmarked for a baseball player. Or vice versa.
Yes, but doing so the following year, typically.
I think a better phrasing is that the school coordinates it. They have legal infrastructure, marketing, ensure deals are suitable to clear the CSC, contain the proper language and protections for breach of contract from players’ side, etc. They also have a direct line to the coaching staffs to let them know what they have available and earmarked to them.
