How many trolls on here have 2 or more accounts?? There are days I think the hairy bulldog might be running all the troll accounts.
How can we ensure we get into the super league?
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Let me guess, you're brother works for CBS??
Some of you people need to get over yourselves. I’m not a troll. Nothing that guy said leads me to believe he is a troll.
If he said “State sucks, LSU & Ole Miss are getting into a super league State will never get in” or something to that effect then yeah he’s a troll.
Instead he posted a legitimate question, but according to you if you don’t attack him you’re also a troll.
Looks like this is identity #3 for bulldoghair and Anon201138?
This is not an alternate account for me. I’m not related to either of those people. I just read the thread. Lmfao
The P4 is the super league. It will eventually break away under some type of umbrella with a commissioner. All teams in the P4 plus ND will be in it. The SEC/Big 10, etc., will remain, but under a bigger umbrella. Think of it as the NFC and AFC, under the NFL umbrella.
No offense to OP's brother, but he's not sitting in on closed door executive meeting (even on air talent isn't), he's just hearing the rumor mill.
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I just highly doubt it breaks that cleanly. I don’t see a scenario where Purdue, Wake Forest, Iowa State, us just automatically get in with the Ohio State’s and Alabama’s because we were all in the P4. I think we will need to do something, preferably wins on the field, to get in.
I'd like to see a poll on this, as to what our people think would be the outcome.
I think we are in serious danger of NOT being included.
I think we are in serious danger of NOT being included.
If we can string along a couple good seasons, like 8-4/9-3 and maybe our losses are late and we spent the first couple weeks of the playoff rankings in the conversation, we would be in.
To be a small market team and get in you have to be good. Michigan could go 2-10 for the next 5 years, they’re still in. We, just like the Kansas States and the Georgia Techs of the world, need to do everything we can to get in. If we don’t get in, we’re screwed.
While I probably don't believe the premise of the OP, one thing is true - the head coach we hire this November is the most important hire in school history. We absolutely have to get it right. We can't settle for a no-name coordinator.
Sankey daughter attended and graduated from MSU. So yeah he’s got a little skin in the game. Add to that he is going to to at all cost protect all chater members of the SEC.
The SEC and Big 10 are never giving up power, they are not kicking any team nor adding any teams (exceptions being ND and UNC), they will band together with the Big 12/ACC and be under a larger umbrella, but the SEC/Big 10 will remain and hold all the power.
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Man forget what I even said about my brother. It’s obvious it’s going to a super league.
Regardless, your contention about the new coach is correct. Neckbeard isn’t going to get it done. What I am trying to say is that we should offer the new guy $10m a year to come. If we can get a guy to get us back to being relevant over the next couple seasons we could make the super league. $50m contract for a coach to get into the league would be a bargain when missing out on the super league and all that TV money is considered.
For the first time, we agree. Love when things switch to topics of agreement. The next football coach is the most important hire in our sports history. No question. I also agree winning would cure all the evils.
The SEC and the Big 10 are going to hold no leverage in this situation. That’s my entire point. There isn’t going to be an SEC or Big 10. There will be a southern/coastal conference which will be a lot of SEC teams + Florida State, Clemson, others. “Conferences” will be like the NFC/AFC.
For example CBS used to have the rights to the biggest SEC game—they had negotiated the rights for the 2010-2015 seasons in 2004. No one in TV media has negotiated a new 2030, 2031 contract yet, because they all know it’s going to a super league. They’re trying to figure out how to divvy the biggest games. And they know they can’t lay claim to a conference like the ESPN/SEC or Big 10/Fox because those conferences are no longer going to exist.
The MSU Admin are who should be asking what can be done to help set MSU up for sustained future academic and athletic success.
Instead of saying random fans are sad, go tell Admin they are sad.
I don't think you understand how wielding power works.
You think UF, UGA, TN, Bama, etc., are going to give up the power they hold (which resides in the SEC office in B'ham) to join a different league where they may or may not hold as much power?
It would be stupid to do that. Same with TOSU. Michigan and Penn State. These conferences can stay together (and will), but be under a larger umbrella that handles things like player eligibility, rules enforcement, TV contacts, etc. The SEC/Big 10 will basically run that umbrella organization.
Yes, I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen. I think that the SEC will agree to be ____ southern/coastal conference and accept Florida State, Clemson, and a couple others. I think the Big 10 will likely accept Arizona State, Tx Tech, and a couple others.
The SEC has no teeth in this. Neither does the Big 10. They don’t own the TV networks that broadcast it.
When the playoffs were expanded, Sankey and Delaney from the Big 10 were absolutely against it. Then the networks said okay how about no more TV money and they folded like a lawn chair. Coaches, AD’s, and conference execs don’t run this sport. The TV networks do
No way the academic snob presidents of the Big 10 accept either of those schools.
I expect Virginia and Cal to be the next 2 teams in the Big 10, or North Carolina if they can get it done.
The schools that are on the cusp would be begging to get in. Northwestern and Vandy are probably the most academically superior P4 programs. Their athletic directors would shine the ESPN guys shoes to get in.
You’re never gonna agree with me, and that’s fine. But this debate has gotten too deep. I guess what I’m trying to say is that we need to do everything we possibly can between now and 2030 to get in.
I'm assuming you're just trolling.
Big 12/SEC hold the power, they hold the product. They are not giving up that power. The SEC and ESPN work very closely together, that will not change. Everyone knew the playoffs, then expanded playoffs were coming, (and another expansion is coming) Sankey is better off playing sly, coming off against any expansion, that way he has more leverage. He'd be stupid to be a vocal supporter, Sankey is the smartest guy in the room.
100% every State Fan should agree on.
Our NEXT Head Football Coach Hire IS the Most important in Program History!
And it can’t be Delta State’s Head Coach
Or Rice’s Offensive Coordinator!!!
Our NEXT Head Football Coach Hire IS the Most important in Program History!
And it can’t be Delta State’s Head Coach
Or Rice’s Offensive Coordinator!!!
The SEC and the Big 10 do not own the product. The networks who pay the TV money to those schools own the product. This is no different than any other pro sports league. If TNT or ESPN looked at the NBA and said if you’re not gonna have ___ playoff, we’re not going to agree to the next media rights deal to televise the games. The NBA would do what they asked in two seconds.
ESPN and Fox hold all the power here. If they want a super league, that’s what’s gonna happen. I don’t even think the commissioner of the SEC or Big 10 want it. But they would have to agree to it.
If ESPN said we want a 64 team playoff and all the teams have to wear pink, they’d do it. That’s just how this works
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Hopefully you’re right. If we get it in, it’s because the entire SEC is in. Hopefully mid-tier schools like Auburn, Tennessee, A&M understand without the bottom tier schools, THEY become the bottom tier.
I just dislike the entire concept. Because if you have say a 32 or 48 team super league with 12 (or more) in the playoff, then it literally just becomes nearly identical to the NFL. Teams going 9-3/8-4, similar to going 11-6 or 12-5 or something in the NFL, and still making the playoffs. Having a national champion who lost four games doesn’t sit right with me.
And while yes it would generate billions of dollars just like the NFL does, it would make the regular season so watered down.
Our problem is that for an example, an Ohio State’s president is going to be sitting there in negotiations saying look we shouldn’t have to subsidize Purdue and Rutgers football programs, we should not have to share the TV money with them. Georgia, TX, AL, LSU would say the same thing about us or Kentucky.
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I don’t know anything but I have an opinion. The so called Super League is coming. Being a Charter member of the SEC isn’t going to save us because the SEC will cease to exist. We aren’t getting in based on TV ratings simply because there isn’t enough eyes in Ms to matter and to top it off, half the state are either Bama or LSU fans anyway. When the powers that be get together to create this Super League it will go one of two ways. They will create a truly competitive league with the best teams in which case we probably won’t be included. Or, they will want a group of not so talented teams in order to provide guaranteed wins for the elite teams and to provide programming for the networks in which case we will likely be included. Just my opinion and I could be totally wrong because I haven’t stayed at a Holiday Inn in months.
The entire state of Mississippi has 3 million people in it. So this comes down to the two guys walk up on a hungry Grizzly Bear story. The one guy turns and says "can we out run the bear?" The other guy says " I only have to out run you."
Does she have a brother who also attended msu, and might have some inside information?
I also think it would be short sighted to have a contracted Super League. The fans of a school aren't going to switch schools because of the league they are in. State fans are going to stay State fans. Some network is going to still put those games on TV and make money off of it. I don't believe there is this big pool of independent fans looking for a team to root for.
Somewhere these advertisers have got to figure out that pure numbers aren't king. It's like to old 2:30 CBS game where yes they get 10 million eyes on a Bama game, but it's the same 10 million eyes. You are not spreading the word. You have to diversify to get more total eyes on your message. So you might take a hit that week with Vandy or MSU but you overall have expanded your consumer base from 10 million to 15 million.
Somewhere these advertisers have got to figure out that pure numbers aren't king. It's like to old 2:30 CBS game where yes they get 10 million eyes on a Bama game, but it's the same 10 million eyes. You are not spreading the word. You have to diversify to get more total eyes on your message. So you might take a hit that week with Vandy or MSU but you overall have expanded your consumer base from 10 million to 15 million.
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If State wasn’t in the top league, I’d probably watch for a few more years, but I’m not sure. I definitely wouldn’t watch the super league if we weren’t part of it. I’d go from watching 8 games per week to maybe 1
Or Ole Miss. If you are not just trolling you need to start including them because if this isn't just a big troll for you to continue to compare and contrast us with Ole Miss recent success and our struggles then NO team from little ole Mississippi is getting in based on some collusion driven super league that tv is working on behind the scenes.
What would keep us out keeps them out which is eyeballs and ratings which MS does not have relative to their super conference friends. Can't believe you drug this out so long. I'm almost embarrassed that I played along.
A 24 team college football playoff will be college football saving grace. We need to cheer hard that these negotiations go that way. It will give the TV networks what they need and keep college football from going the route of a 32 team super league.
I am not trolling here. Ole Miss would be in the exact same position as us if we swapped recent football seasons. I’ve literally said that on this thread multiple times. If Clemson had a good couple years and South Carolina continues to be bad, they’d be in the same boat. There’s 10+ P4 teams in this same situation, I could use any of them as an example.
But this is a Mississippi State message board. Hence the reason for discussing Mississippi State’s position on here, the Mississippi State message board. Lol
I hope it goes to 24, because then I think we could definitely make it soon, it would give great exposure to us before a decision on a super league might be made.