How can we ensure we get into the super league?

Bulldawg77

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Ok, I'll play along. Why would this new super conference want a team from MS much less two teams from MS? The market is not big enough. This is pro football lite. There are reasons Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, South Carolina, etc don't have pro teams and it's not because they don't like football. The model doesn't make sense in small markets.
Because we are a member of SEC. And it’s like saying well the Big 10 isn’t gonna let Rutgers or Purdue in. Being a charter member has its advantages. Another reason regardless if you hate him or not Kennum is one of the more powerful people in college football. Sits on the playoff committee. Another..We have money something that this fan base or maybe it’s just this board doesn’t fully understand. We do have some name recognition again this board it’s just fails to see that because it’s easier and 6pack cool just to **** on all things MSU. We have over a billion dollar endowment. Let’s stop acting like we have less money than jones jr college.
We have sankey as a key partner as well. And he carries And will carry a lot of weight in this matter.
 

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We have sankey as a key partner as well. And he carries And will carry a lot of weight in this matter.
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Because we are a member of SEC. And it’s like saying well the Big 10 isn’t gonna let Rutgers or Purdue in. Being a charter member has its advantages. Another reason regardless if you hate him or not Kennum is one of the more powerful people in college football. Sits on the playoff committee. Another..We have money something that this fan base or maybe it’s just this board doesn’t fully understand. We do have some name recognition again this board it’s just fails to see that because it’s easier and 6pack cool just to **** on all things MSU. We have over a billion dollar endowment. Let’s stop acting like we have less money than jones jr college.
We have sankey as a key partner as well. And he carries And will carry a lot of weight in this matter.
Bro, you had me until the Sankey part. If you think Greg Sankey is going to be our savior in all this, then I have some ocean front property in Arizona I would love to chat with you about.
 
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He started working there in 2017. He doesn’t know exactly what is going to happen. But when the playoff was 4 teams, he was like this is going to 12 or 16.

I said there’s no way it would go from 4 to 12 off the jump. Max it goes to is 8, and I don’t think that will happen for a decade.

6 months later 12 team playoff announced.

I mean he’s around these people, conference executives, TV executives, all the time. It’s literally his job. If he tells me, as an avid MSU fan, that we need to get our act together to get into the super league, I believe it.

I mean...basically the entirety of the internet complained about the CFP being just 4 teams. And for years, half the internet argued for 12 and 16 team playoffs. And as time went on, there was more and more push by media and fans to expand it to 12 or 16 teams, and more reports of that being discussed by those with actual power(the conferences and ESPN).

Kudos to your brother correctly guessing it would expand to either 12 or 16 teams...but not knowing which.**
 

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Because we are a member of SEC. And it’s like saying well the Big 10 isn’t gonna let Rutgers or Purdue in. Being a charter member has its advantages. Another reason regardless if you hate him or not Kennum is one of the more powerful people in college football. Sits on the playoff committee. Another..We have money something that this fan base or maybe it’s just this board doesn’t fully understand. We do have some name recognition again this board it’s just fails to see that because it’s easier and 6pack cool just to **** on all things MSU. We have over a billion dollar endowment. Let’s stop acting like we have less money than jones jr college.
We have sankey as a key partner as well. And he carries And will carry a lot of weight in this matter.
Well, that makes me feel better. I am the least informed about all the inside info on our program so I hope all those things swing it our way because if we are counting on tv ratings it ain't happening. Furthermore, why wouldn't a new super conference make that a priority criteria? If I'm coming up with a new business model I'm trying to create ways to drive as much revenue as possible and charter members or not having 2 teams from MS much less one doesn't make a lot of sense in the business model.
 

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How is some random guy at Fox Sports confident of who would be in/out for a hypothetical 48 team super league that wouldnt exist for another 5 years?

I would think that if a 48 team(or however many) super league were to form, teams would be chosen by multiple TV executives, large conference leaders, and influential university presidents and ADs. Add Private Equity in too- some haircut from KKR or Blackstone will probably have a say, since PE will obviously be investing bigly into this super league.



I mean, none of that points to MSU getting in, but its still funny that someone at Fox Sports is so confident MSU wouldnt, when the league doesnt exist and is 5 years away...if ever.
He’s not saying that MSU wouldn’t get in because he’s just having fun saying it. What he is saying is that small market teams that lose a lot aren’t getting in. If Ole Miss were terrible we’d get in over them.

But when he says it’s going to a super league, I believe it 100%. You’ve already got CFB talking heads discussing it. And he literally sits in meetings with these executives. They are discussing TV contracts, the amount of money that would be paid to each school, etc.

It will be negotiated in 2029-2030, with the initial super league season being likely 2032. We simply cannot afford for them to leave us out.

We need to make a playoff run in the next couple years, to do something to make us, as a smaller market team, nationally relevant.
 

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Because we are a member of SEC. And it’s like saying well the Big 10 isn’t gonna let Rutgers or Purdue in. Being a charter member has its advantages. Another reason regardless if you hate him or not Kennum is one of the more powerful people in college football. Sits on the playoff committee. Another..We have money something that this fan base or maybe it’s just this board doesn’t fully understand. We do have some name recognition again this board it’s just fails to see that because it’s easier and 6pack cool just to **** on all things MSU. We have over a billion dollar endowment. Let’s stop acting like we have less money than jones jr college.




We have sankey as a key partner as well. And he carries And will carry a lot of weight in this matter.
 

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OP can't even be bothered to create an interesting name for itself on this here message boards and I'm supposed to be interested in the opinion of his likely fictional Fox brother.

Nope.
Well, my cousin said that they were going to reanimate the corpse of Leach, and that Zombie Leach was going to lead us into a 48-team super conference in which we will be in the championship picture shortly. Just as plausible as anything the OP has said, since we are basing things on family intuition. I will say again, hope is great. It is just not a strategy for success.
 

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OP can't even be bothered to create an interesting name for itself on this here message boards and I'm supposed to be interested in the opinion of his likely fictional Fox brother.

Nope.
Man forget my brother then, you don’t have to believe me. But even if he didn’t exist. It would still be obvious to anyone with a pulse that this is where it’s going.

And if that’s what’s about to happen, for once we need to proactive rather than reactive. Not let Cohen get up there and say NIL will be some kids signing memorabilia. Get out in front of it for once
 
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My brother works for Fox Sports. He’s not on TV but in a production role.

This thing is going to a super league. He said he’d bet his firstborn on it. There’s already debate about how many teams are going to be in it. 32 has been discussed but then you’d have to start talking about leaving out places like Illinois, South Carolina, NC State, Kansas State. He doesn’t think 32 would be agreed upon, but 48 probably would, which means 20 power 4 programs get the axe. 56 MAYBE. The TV contracts expire in 2031, so this is about 5 years away.

Any program that gets left out of the league is screwed. No more, or way less, TV $$. And it’s not just 100% about wins and losses. For example he thinks with 48, Syracuse would make it over say a Wake Forest. Because of the media market. Mississippi is probably the smallest media market of any state that matters in this.

We can’t get left out. The number one thing is winning games obviously, but beyond that we need people in our administration to be 100% prepared to lobby for us. What can the administration do to help us get in?
AI tells me:

A future 32 team model (the NFL Lite model) would maximize per-school revenue by including only "giant" national brands. Some models would leave out Vandy, MSU and Arkansas in the SEC. Big 10 would have bigger cuts, leaving out Indiana, Rutgers, Pursue, Maryland, Illinois, and Northwestern. The Big12/ACC would only have a few schools safe (Florida State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Miami). This would structure itself with 2 16 team conferences, similar to the NFL.

A 48 team model (The "Broad Elite") would balance high revenue with regional footprints and historic rivalries. All SEC and most BIG10 schools would be safe here. It would only include the top half of the ACC/Big12. This is the model we need to be pushing for. It would be 8 divisions with 6 teams each, and would make sure to hold most of the historic rivalries.

There is also a 70 team model, but revenue sharing would likely be tiered with the top teams getting a larger share and the bottom teams getting just enough to hang onto a program. I don't like this idea at all for us. We need to be pushing for the 48 team model that keeps all the SEC teams in the mix.
 

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This is the most frustrating thing. We’re in maybe the most pivotal 5-10 years of our football history. And we’re running the program like it’s the 1980s with Charley Scott & Larry Templeton.
Are we? I don't think we are at all. We are much much farther along than we were in those times, and it's not even close.
 

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The true bargaining power is not necessarily with our administration. It's with the SEC. That is where the real bargaining power will reside. The total package that they can bring to the table. It could be a question of how valuable we are to the SEC, and what does our administration do to make sure that is known. Our true allure is what someone else already said. Be good enough to get beaten reasonably by the blue bloods, and we stay. This is how I imagine it plays out. We are in, but it really makes no difference in our "prominence" in football. We will still be middle to bottom the vast majority of years with a slight shot a a playoff spot every decade or so.
 

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The true bargaining power is not necessarily with our administration. It's with the SEC. That is where the real bargaining power will reside. The total package that they can bring to the table. It could be a question of how valuable we are to the SEC, and what does our administration do to make sure that is known. Our true allure is what someone else already said. Be good enough to get beaten reasonably by the blue bloods, and we stay. This is how I imagine it plays out. We are in, but it really makes no difference in our "prominence" in football. We will still be middle to bottom the vast majority of years with a slight shot a a playoff spot every decade or so.
The issue is that with the super league, there’s not going to be an SEC or Big 10. The networks, chiefly ESPN and Fox, will negotiate the rights to games just like for example ESPN has Monday night football, NBC has SNF, CBS has other games etc. But there’s not gonna be a “Fox owns all Big 10 games” situation.

There might still be “conferences” in the sense that there’s like an AFC/NFC, but it will not be anything like what we think of conferences now. Notre Dame will not be “independent” either.
 

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Miss State would get in the super conference before Ole Miss based on our brand and viewership - which is higher on a per game average over the past 10 years when we have sucked and they are winning. And our brand is definitely stronger outside the state of Mississippi.

But Miss State is NOT getting in a super conference.

But you can relax, because OM dang-sure ain't gettin' in. Their viewership is smaller and their brand outside the state is terrible, based largely on historical perception of the both team and the university.

they will always be considered cheaters and a racists institution. A new 32-56 team product could in no way afford the association.

Unless they want to make them some sort of foil - and it that case, we can welcome back the Colonel.

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The issue is that with the super league, there’s not going to be an SEC or Big 10. The networks, chiefly ESPN and Fox, will negotiate the rights to games just like for example ESPN has Monday night football, NBC has SNF, CBS has other games etc. But there’s not gonna be a “Fox owns all Big 10 games” situation.

There might still be “conferences” in the sense that there’s like an AFC/NFC, but it will not be anything like what we think of conferences now. Notre Dame will not be “independent” either.
No offense, but your brother (nor anybody else at Fox) knows who will be left out of a deal that is long in the future and is not even in the beginning stages of coming to fruition. He is just speculating like everyone else is.

The good thing for us is that the SEC will basically seize to exist if this super league were to come about. The power conferences, especially the SEC and Big 10 aren't going to push for something that completely eliminates their own jobs and the hold they have after being an entity for almost 100 years. They would basically be negotiating their demise. Let's be real here.
 

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Miss State would get in the super conference before Ole Miss based on our brand and viewership - which is higher on a per game average over the past 10 years when we have sucked and they are winning. And our brand is definitely stronger outside the state of Mississippi.

But Miss State is NOT getting in a super conference.

But you can relax, because OM dang-sure ain't gettin' in. Their viewership is smaller and their brand outside the state is terrible, based largely on historical perception of the both team and the university.

they will always be considered cheaters and a racists institution. A new 32-56 team product could in no way afford the association.

Unless they want to make them some sort of foil - and it that case, we can welcome back the Colonel.
You are delusional. As of today they would be in & we would be out. But as usual we bury our heads in the sand & pretend we don’t have a major 17ing problem on our hands.
 

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No offense, but your brother (nor anybody else at Fox) knows who will be left out of a deal that is long in the future and is not even in the beginning stages of coming to fruition. He is just speculating like everyone else is.

The good thing for us is that the SEC will basically seize to exist if this super league were to come about. The power conferences, especially the SEC and Big 10 aren't going to push for something that completely eliminates their own jobs and the hold they have after being an entity for almost 100 years. They would basically be negotiating their demise. Let's be real here.
Yeah. We already have a super conference. Two of them actually. Most likely scenario is they continue to coexist as the 2 super conferences.
 
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But you can relax, because OM dang-sure ain't gettin' in. Their viewership is smaller and their brand outside the state is terrible, based largely on historical perception of the both team and the university.
Countless teen girls in Iowa know of Ole Miss. Multiple in my metro that I know of thru sports have enrolled at Ole Miss over the last few years.
I have been asked a few times a year since probably 2022 if I went to Ole Miss, since someone knows I went to school in Mississippi. This is by adults and teens alike.

Ole Miss as a brand is exponentially stronger than MSU, at least in this rural northern state. When countless teen girls up here know of Ole Miss as a destination school or as one that is helping set the trends and pop culture they consume, I know Ole Miss as a brand is doing better.
Quite literally none of them care about Col Reb or James Meredith or even know about either.

I am not suggesting Ole Miss would get into a league of 48, I am just saying their brand is night and day better than MSU's. MSU as a brand isnt even on people's radar up here.
 

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The issue is that with the super league, there’s not going to be an SEC or Big 10. The networks, chiefly ESPN and Fox, will negotiate the rights to games just like for example ESPN has Monday night football, NBC has SNF, CBS has other games etc. But there’s not gonna be a “Fox owns all Big 10 games” situation.

There might still be “conferences” in the sense that there’s like an AFC/NFC, but it will not be anything like what we think of conferences now. Notre Dame will not be “independent” either.
Understood. But we and others are members of a collective, the SEC. And i imagine that it will be through that that the negotiations will take place to form the super league.
 

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Yeah. But the guys brother said.
I think it’s hilarious people are just dismissing me because I tried to give some insight to this board on what my brother thinks is coming.

Forget my brother. If I was an only child I would still after watching college football recently think it’s going to a super league.
 

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I think it’s hilarious people are just dismissing me because I tried to give some insight to this board on what my brother thinks is coming.

Forget my brother. If I was an only child I would still after watching college football recently think it’s going to a super league.
You act like we are a bunch of power broker decision makers that the University and SEC are going to lean heavily on for decision making IF this comes to be. Nobody on this forum will have any say so whatsoever though so give it a rest.......................
 
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I think it’s hilarious people are just dismissing me because I tried to give some insight to this board on what my brother thinks is coming.

Forget my brother. If I was an only child I would still after watching college football recently think it’s going to a super league.
Or the two major conferences that already exist could continue to exist, or any number of other things could happen. I think we all agree changes are coming. I find it funny that you try to act like you know what will happen, but you have no clue what is really going to happen. I do not have any clue either. We can debate over our hunches, or what your brother does or does not know. That still does not become factual. No offense again, but you have no more insight than anyone else. You might have a hunch, or it might be obvious to you, but to quote a movie hero. "That is just like your opinion, man."
 

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Understood. But we and others are members of a collective, the SEC. And i imagine that it will be through that that the negotiations will take place to form the super league.
My hope is that even if college football breaks away from the other conferences/structure, that during the negotiations and before this is allowed, that Sankey and the SEC powers will say you have to keep every one of us in before we’ll agree to it.
 
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I'm just not sure that I can anymore. In this new multi-billion dollar world of collegiate athletics, coaches are rich, players are rich, and money's flying everywhere. All while fans that are paying $1,000 for season tickets are sitting elbow to elbow on 17ing metal bleachers.
 
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You act like we are a bunch of power broker decision makers that the University and SEC are going to lean heavily on for decision making IF this comes to be. Nobody on this forum will have any say so whatsoever though so give it a rest.......................
Look man I’m just trying to discuss how we can improve our situation beyond just winning football games, or even if we don’t win more.

We have absolutely fumbled the bag during the NIL era. We got our teeth kicked in by Toledo at home. We accepted a bowl game at 5-7 and got pounced by Wake Forest. Our rival just made the final four, has won 5/6 Egg Bowls, and is running circles around us in the portal. I’m pissed about it, and you should be too.

There have been bad times before, 2003 or 2008 type seasons. But never during those bad times did I think “if we don’t improve, we’re getting demoted to FCS”. That’s my worry now. Being bad at football right now has worse consequences than ever before.
 
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You act like we are a bunch of power broker decision makers that the University and SEC are going to lean heavily on for decision making IF this comes to be. Nobody on this forum will have any say so whatsoever though so give it a rest.......................

I'm a decision maker.

I just decided to fix myself a sammich and I'm fixing to make it happen captain.

Guess I'm a power broker too...
 
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Countless teen girls in Iowa know of Ole Miss. Multiple in my metro that I know of thru sports have enrolled at Ole Miss over the last few years.
I have been asked a few times a year since probably 2022 if I went to Ole Miss, since someone knows I went to school in Mississippi. This is by adults and teens alike.

Ole Miss as a brand is exponentially stronger than MSU, at least in this rural northern state. When countless teen girls up here know of Ole Miss as a destination school or as one that is helping set the trends and pop culture they consume, I know Ole Miss as a brand is doing better.
Quite literally none of them care about Col Reb or James Meredith or even know about either.

I am not suggesting Ole Miss would get into a league of 48, I am just saying their brand is night and day better than MSU's. MSU as a brand isnt even on people's radar up here.
There you go again, Grlfriend!

I don't care how many teen girls you know in in Iowa that dream of dressing up on the Grove. They ain't moving the meter on football ratings.

I got a brother at Fox Sports, a cousin at ESPN, a dude I used to do lines with at CBS and my broker is EF Hutton.

And I'm telling you now, neither State or OM is getting into a Super Conference.
 

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I hope State doesn't get left out... but remember... the school gets left out. Not you.

If this ever does happen, Go to Walmart and get you a tshirt and hat of who is in and enjoy life.
I’ve always been for whomever is number 1 at the end of the year. I can’t keep up with all the National Championships I’ve racked up. 🙂
 

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There you go again, Grlfriend!

I don't care how many teen girls you know in in Iowa that dream of dressing up on the Grove. They ain't moving the meter on football ratings.

I got a brother at Fox Sports, a cousin at ESPN, a dude I used to do lines with at CBS and my broker is EF Hutton.

And I'm telling you now, neither State or OM is getting into a Super Conference.
I specification say that my post was not claiming Ole Miss would get into a super conference. I specifically said that because I figured someone would claim or suggest that was my point.
It was not.

My only point was that Ole Miss is more of a known brand than MSU.
 

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I'm disappointed the pack has let this obvious concern troll post go for this many pages. I realize I'm doing it by posting in it. But the old pack would have sniffed this out sooner. We're losing our fastball.
 

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I'm disappointed the pack has let this obvious concern troll post go for this many pages. I realize I'm doing it by posting in it. But the old pack would have sniffed this out sooner. We're losing our fastball.
This guy posted a legitimate thread about what might be coming and asking what can we do to help ourselves, and in the entire thread 70+ comments there’s is not one comment about an idea to help MSU’s position. It is just attacking him or calling him a troll. It’s sad