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Anon201138

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My brother works for Fox Sports. He’s not on TV but in a production role.

This thing is going to a super league. He said he’d bet his firstborn on it. There’s already debate about how many teams are going to be in it. 32 has been discussed but then you’d have to start talking about leaving out places like Illinois, South Carolina, NC State, Kansas State. He doesn’t think 32 would be agreed upon, but 48 probably would, which means 20 power 4 programs get the axe. 56 MAYBE. The TV contracts expire in 2031, so this is about 5 years away.

Any program that gets left out of the league is screwed. No more, or way less, TV $$. And it’s not just 100% about wins and losses. For example he thinks with 48, Syracuse would make it over say a Wake Forest. Because of the media market. Mississippi is probably the smallest media market of any state that matters in this.

We can’t get left out. The number one thing is winning games obviously, but beyond that we need people in our administration to be 100% prepared to lobby for us. What can the administration do to help us get in?
 
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Anon201138 said:
My brother works for Fox Sports. He’s not on TV but in a production role.

This thing is going to a super league. He said he’d bet his firstborn on it. There’s already debate about how many teams are going to be in it. 32 has been discussed but then you’d have to start talking about leaving out places like Illinois, South Carolina, NC State, Kansas State. He doesn’t think 32 would be agreed upon, but 48 probably would, which means 20 power 4 programs get the axe. 56 MAYBE. The TV contracts expire in 2031, so this is about 5 years away.

Any program that gets left out of the league is screwed. No more, or way less, TV $$. And it’s not just 100% about wins and losses. For example he thinks with 48, Syracuse would make it over say a Wake Forest. Because of the media market. Mississippi is probably the smallest media market of any state that matters in this.

We can’t get left out. The number one thing is winning games obviously, but beyond that we need people in our administration to be 100% prepared to lobby for us. What can the administration do to help us get in?
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First, much love to your brother. If the super team league goes down we are not getting in. No point in really debating further.
 
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I don't think any school in the Big Ten/SEC gets left out of a 56 or 48 team Super League. It would be the 34 from SEC/Big 10 combined plus Notre Dame and 13/21 schools from Big 12/ACC.
32 teams would probably mean both MSU & Ole Miss get left out
 
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It will be a challenge I am sure. I wouldn't count on our administration to be proactive. Sometimes, I try to wrap my head around what happens when we do get left out.
 
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Lucifer Morningstar said:
First, much love to your brother. If the super team league goes down we are not getting in. No point in really debating further.
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We can’t just throw our hands up and not even try to get in. And just FYI, if Ole Miss had sucked recently then they wouldn’t be in.

He was like the way that this is going to go, it’s probably going to be 12 teams in 4 divisions. And although winning matters, it won’t be just “how good were you last year”. Media market matters as well. For example Arkansas has sucked for a decade but they’re not getting left out.

It will be about 30-35 teams in for sure, and then another 30 lobbying for those next 12-15 spots. We need to be able to make a heck of a pitch as to why we should be included.
 
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Have enough of a roster to keep it close for TV and then lose to the other teams
 
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We can’t just throw our hands up and not even try to get in. And just FYI, if Ole Miss had sucked recently then they wouldn’t be in.

He was like the way that this is going to go, it’s probably going to be 12 teams in 4 divisions. And although winning matters, it won’t be just “how good were you last year”. Media market matters as well. For example Arkansas has sucked for a decade but they’re not getting left out.

It will be about 30-35 teams in for sure, and then another 30 lobbying for those next 12-25 spots. We need to be able to make a heck of a pitch as to why we should be included.
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That is great bro. My opinion is still we would not get in. No offense.
 
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Willow Grove Dawg said:
I don't think any school in the Big Ten/SEC gets left out of a 56 or 48 team Super League. It would be the 34 from SEC/Big 10 combined plus Notre Dame and 13/21 schools from Big 12/ACC.
32 teams would probably mean both MSU & Ole Miss get left out
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The people analyzing who to put in are basing it not just off wins but media market. Eyeballs on screen. For example my brother thinks Boise State (being the pretty much only decent team in the Dakotas/Montana/Idaho region), would have a better chance of getting in than Iowa State or Kansas State. He also thinks UCF would have a better chance than us. And that Indiana, with the Notre Dame market there, would be in but like the 25th team in. That sounds crazy to me but he’s like you’ve got to understand these decisions are being based on money.
 
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It's not going to be the teams who are the 'best' over a certain course of time. There's going to be a baseline of schools with the resources needed to pay to play. If you're willing to meet that threshold, you'll get in. It'll probably be who's willing to meet the rev share at 100% and still keep a baseline number of overall sports (you'd be surprised how many are not doing this).

Ya'll are way too old school in your thinking. You think it's like the conference trying to pick a place to expand in 2010. It's not like that. All this is, is trying to create an overall system to generate as much TV money as possible. And the blue bloods need someone to lose or they'll just beat each other. And at this point, because of the last merger of SEC and B1G, they know they need to create schedule equity.

So it's essentially a choice of the existing P4 schools, because that's where that line is drawn most likely. We're going to find out just how sustainable this all is. But I still don't think this merger happens for a long time.

The only way anyone gets left out (that is currently in) is if either the SEC or B1G raid each other and others. Say, the B1G dangles a carrot in front of Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Alabama, North Carolina, Clemson and Tennessee. Or something like that.

The super league 'NFL-lite' concept that so many talk of here, will not happen. There won't be any actively kicking people out.
 
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quickstrike2 said:
It will be a challenge I am sure. I wouldn't count on our administration to be proactive. Sometimes, I try to wrap my head around what happens when we do get left out.
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This is the most frustrating thing. We’re in maybe the most pivotal 5-10 years of our football history. And we’re running the program like it’s the 1980s with Charley Scott & Larry Templeton.
 
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OG Goat Holder said:
It's not going to be the teams who are the 'best' over a certain course of time. There's going to be a baseline of schools with the resources needed to pay to play. If you're willing to meet that threshold, you'll get in. It'll probably be who's willing to meet the rev share at 100% and still keep a baseline number of overall sports (you'd be surprised how many are not doing this).

Ya'll are way too old school in your thinking. You think it's like the conference trying to pick a place to expand in 2010. It's not like that. All this is, is trying to create an overall system to generate as much TV money as possible. And the blue bloods need someone to lose or they'll just beat each other. And at this point, because of the last merger of SEC and B1G, they know they need to create schedule equity.

So it's essentially a choice of the existing P4 schools, because that's where that line is drawn most likely. We're going to find out just how sustainable this all is. But I still don't think this merger happens for a long time.

The only way anyone gets left out (that is currently in) is if either the SEC or B1G raid each other and others. Say, the B1G dangles a carrot in front of Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Alabama, North Carolina, Clemson and Tennessee. Or something like that.

The super league 'NFL-lite' concept that so many talk of here, will not happen. There won't be any actively kicking people out.
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My brother, who went to State and has no incentive to lie, said that if it went to 48 tomorrow, we aren’t in.
 
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Anon201138 said:
My brother works for Fox Sports. He’s not on TV but in a production role.

This thing is going to a super league. He said he’d bet his firstborn on it. There’s already debate about how many teams are going to be in it. 32 has been discussed but then you’d have to start talking about leaving out places like Illinois, South Carolina, NC State, Kansas State. He doesn’t think 32 would be agreed upon, but 48 probably would, which means 20 power 4 programs get the axe. 56 MAYBE. The TV contracts expire in 2031, so this is about 5 years away.

Any program that gets left out of the league is screwed. No more, or way less, TV $$. And it’s not just 100% about wins and losses. For example he thinks with 48, Syracuse would make it over say a Wake Forest. Because of the media market. Mississippi is probably the smallest media market of any state that matters in this.

We can’t get left out. The number one thing is winning games obviously, but beyond that we need people in our administration to be 100% prepared to lobby for us. What can the administration do to help us get in?
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1. We can’t do anything about it. Just hope the number is big enough.
2. Unequal rev sharing will happen first.

But there are two things people talk about: 1. A group breaking off From the NCAA- we would be in that 2. A Super league for media rights- see my point number 1
 
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Anon201138 said:
My brother works for Fox Sports. He’s not on TV but in a production role.

This thing is going to a super league. He said he’d bet his firstborn on it. There’s already debate about how many teams are going to be in it. 32 has been discussed but then you’d have to start talking about leaving out places like Illinois, South Carolina, NC State, Kansas State. He doesn’t think 32 would be agreed upon, but 48 probably would, which means 20 power 4 programs get the axe. 56 MAYBE. The TV contracts expire in 2031, so this is about 5 years away.

Any program that gets left out of the league is screwed. No more, or way less, TV $$. And it’s not just 100% about wins and losses. For example he thinks with 48, Syracuse would make it over say a Wake Forest. Because of the media market. Mississippi is probably the smallest media market of any state that matters in this.

We can’t get left out. The number one thing is winning games obviously, but beyond that we need people in our administration to be 100% prepared to lobby for us. What can the administration do to help us get in?
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Anon201138 said:
The people analyzing who to put in are basing it not just off wins but media market. Eyeballs on screen. For example my brother thinks Boise State (being the pretty much only decent team in the Dakotas/Montana/Idaho region), would have a better chance of getting in than Iowa State or Kansas State. He also thinks UCF would have a better chance than us. And that Indiana, with the Notre Dame market there, would be in but like the 25th team in. That sounds crazy to me but he’s like you’ve got to understand these decisions are being based on money.
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First of all, all decisions are based on money****

Seriously though, if this happens they will never take 2 teams from a small market like MS. I'd be surprised if they took one.
 
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We were screwed the moment Mike Leach passes away and we have an interim AD because Dr. Keenum wasn't prepared for Cohen's departure. We compounded the Arnett mistake with the Lebby hire. Ole Miss going to the Super League will be too much for me to bare and I may drop out of college sports altogether at that point.
 
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TheBannerM said:
We were screwed the moment Mike Leach passes away and we have an interim AD because Dr. Keenum wasn't prepared for Cohen's departure. We compounded the Arnett mistake with the Lebby hire. Ole Miss going to the Super League will be too much for me to bare and I may drop out of college sports altogether at that point.
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Sadly you are right on all points. It’s not like we were an advantaged program to begin with. But we have shot ourselves in the foot so many times in the last 3 years.
 
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TheBannerM said:
We were screwed the moment Mike Leach passes away and we have an interim AD because Dr. Keenum wasn't prepared for Cohen's departure. We compounded the Arnett mistake with the Lebby hire. Ole Miss going to the Super League will be too much for me to bare and I may drop out of college sports altogether at that point.
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If Ole Miss starts to suck, and we started to be good, then Ole Miss would be out. My brother does believe that they’ll for audience reasons try to put at minimum one team from each state (or at least the 25-30 states where CFB matters and is widely watched) in. They have no allegiance to Ole Miss, they have an allegiance to money.
 
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Anon201138 said:
My brother works for Fox Sports. He’s not on TV but in a production role.

This thing is going to a super league. He said he’d bet his firstborn on it. There’s already debate about how many teams are going to be in it. 32 has been discussed but then you’d have to start talking about leaving out places like Illinois, South Carolina, NC State, Kansas State. He doesn’t think 32 would be agreed upon, but 48 probably would, which means 20 power 4 programs get the axe. 56 MAYBE. The TV contracts expire in 2031, so this is about 5 years away.

Any program that gets left out of the league is screwed. No more, or way less, TV $$. And it’s not just 100% about wins and losses. For example he thinks with 48, Syracuse would make it over say a Wake Forest. Because of the media market. Mississippi is probably the smallest media market of any state that matters in this.

We can’t get left out. The number one thing is winning games obviously, but beyond that we need people in our administration to be 100% prepared to lobby for us. What can the administration do to help us get in?
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We were the first #1 ranked team in the modern era. We cannot be left out.***
 
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patdog said:
Sadly you are right on all points. It’s not like we were an advantaged program to begin with. But we have shot ourselves in the foot so many times in the last 3 years.
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I just don’t think people are facing this matter with as much concern as there should be. Getting left out of the super league is a-hundreds-of-millions-over-a-decade of TV money type of loss. If sh*t hits the fan with Lebby this year, offering Nick Saban or Urban Meyer $20m a year to come here and fix this would be a bargain compared to missing the super league when the realignment happens. If we don’t get in, our athletic department including the baseball and men’s basketball program are toast.
 
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We won’t be left out like wsu and osu. We are in a much stronger position than those two schools.
 
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The same way that SMU got into the ACC. Although that would suck too, because get ready to go 2-10 for the rest of time. I hate that greed is 17ing up what was once a beautiful sport.
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This is what gets me. We have fans that would be fine with 2-10 to 4-8 seasons as long as long as State gets to sit at the Adult Table. Screw that! Now that we are likely to have 76 teams in the basketball tourney, we have fans that will be fine with State finishing 76th, because Whoopee! Made the tourney.

The answer is always. We cannot compete without the premier league money. We aren’t competing WITH IT! Thankfully, it helps pay some bills. But those bills would have to go away if State isn’t in the top level of play. No way could the Governing body force teams in the Second tier maintain the same number of sports. Travel would become more regional. Competition would be more leveled. Everyone thinks State becomes like USM. Poppycock. We have a lot more to offer as a University than they do. Heck! UAB would probably become a powerhouse in the Second Tier. They have a well renowned Medical School and Teaching Hospital! State would have to step up academically and make the Engineering, Meteorology and Vet schools top line!

we already have alumni who don’t give a dime to athletics but give millions to academics.
 
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Well I been right about more than you Satan but feel free to believe what you want.
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You have? Must have missed that. Not in a long winded mood. So, I will just say hope is never a strategy. And you are wrong sir, respectfully. Great news is neither one of us really know what will happen.
 
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horshack.sixpack said:
No offense, but that is his opinion. I find it hard to believe that anyone KNOWS right now what will happen with a hypothetical super league.
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He started working there in 2017. He doesn’t know exactly what is going to happen. But when the playoff was 4 teams, he was like this is going to 12 or 16.

I said there’s no way it would go from 4 to 12 off the jump. Max it goes to is 8, and I don’t think that will happen for a decade.

6 months later 12 team playoff announced.

I mean he’s around these people, conference executives, TV executives, all the time. It’s literally his job. If he tells me, as an avid MSU fan, that we need to get our act together to get into the super league, I believe it.
 
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Just maybe we get in at 56, less likely at 48, and not possible at 32.

We can bring NOTHING to the table. The viewership is not there for STATE - if that is what it comes to. And it probably will because...

Money.

It's going to get very very expensive to play in order to make money for investors who expect to make a lot.

Everything will be set up on a pay-per-view/streaming service. And the product will be crap.

But that's okay, because investors will spend millions convincing people they have to watch. And the people will.

And the people will convince themselves that the product is amazing and that it brings happiness and meaning to their lives.
 
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Bulldawg77 said:
We will be in the super conference. We have our seat at the table.
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Ok, I'll play along. Why would this new super conference want a team from MS much less two teams from MS? The market is not big enough. This is pro football lite. There are reasons Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, South Carolina, etc don't have pro teams and it's not because they don't like football. The model doesn't make sense in small markets.
 
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Ok, I'll play along. Why would this new super conference want a team from MS much less two teams from MS? The market is not big enough. This is pro football lite. There are reasons Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, South Carolina, etc don't have pro teams and it's not because they don't like football. The model doesn't make sense in small markets.
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Ole Miss, if they just fell off a cliff with Golding, if they don’t have success between now and 2031, would be looking at getting left out.
 
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How is some random guy at Fox Sports confident of who would be in/out for a hypothetical 48 team super league that wouldnt exist for another 5 years?

I would think that if a 48 team(or however many) super league were to form, teams would be chosen by multiple TV executives, large conference leaders, and influential university presidents and ADs. Add Private Equity in too- some haircut from KKR or Blackstone will probably have a say, since PE will obviously be investing bigly into this super league.



I mean, none of that points to MSU getting in, but its still funny that someone at Fox Sports is so confident MSU wouldnt, when the league doesnt exist and is 5 years away...if ever.
 
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