KSR MJ just said some dumb stuff
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I mean people get upset but this could very well be the reality here.
Because we DID reach out to guys before Pope. They didn't come. Regardless of whether we "could have gotten this guy of that guy" the fact is we ended up with Mark Pope.
It's hard to argue X coach could have been had when..........they aren't here lol.
Now was that Mitch and UK settling when they could have gotten someone better or was it they just couldn't?
Who knows.
UK just isn't currently an attractive coaching option. It just isn't.
Because we DID reach out to guys before Pope. They didn't come. Regardless of whether we "could have gotten this guy of that guy" the fact is we ended up with Mark Pope.
It's hard to argue X coach could have been had when..........they aren't here lol.
Now was that Mitch and UK settling when they could have gotten someone better or was it they just couldn't?
Who knows.
UK just isn't currently an attractive coaching option. It just isn't.
I’d hate for a Mitch to actually have to do his job. Poor guy would have to court and interview guys to earn his money. Poor little fella.
The problem with Matt's show is Ryan just will not agree with ANYTHING he has to say.
Yea it’s pretty simple really. Recruiting is lifeblood, you can’t coach at UK if you can’t recruit. You really don’t need to know anything else. That’s the end.
Then of course the rest of the issues that an audit would show severe issues.
Terrible recruiter
Limited access to boosters he needs
On court coaching
Current trajectory
Patterns of team disfunction
Bizarre press conferences
History / lack of success
There just isn’t anything here that would allow him to coach Western, let along even be considered for this job. This will be known as a Mitch Barnhart flub in the record books and nothing more. We all wanted it, a former 96 guy leading Kentucky to a rebirth. But wanting that, and being able to do it, aren’t the same things. People were gaslit by the administration because they wanted a control hire away from the basketball side. You can’t hire a basketball guy like Pearl or Oats or a Calipari type to do that. You need someone who doesn’t have the resume and will do what they’re told. Pope fit the bill, and it was perfect gaslighting material. Get out those ole 96’rs!
Mitch is fully responsible for the direction and current position of UK basketball. He took the 90’s era and was handed a program that was on top and historically the greatest of all time. On his watch, with his decisions only, he has 0 final fours and 0 national titles if you accept he had nothing to do with Calipari and even tried to prevent it, which he did. Then he hired the worst coach in history at UK, Pope. He is a trainwreck AD and that’s why he wanted 2 more years but was forced out. Then forced out of that corrupt seat he wanted. Now he’s gone and that’s not how he wanted it. There’s a reason.
He is a terrible AD if winning is your goal. Not debatable.
Even considering Shaka is fireable. I thought that was a joke the first time I heard it.
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It's all about how long would have been too long.
Surely no one would have wanted it to drag into May.
Only for a home run hire and there wasn't one.[
I agree but time was an issue.
It's all about how long would have been too long.
Surely no one would have wanted it to drag into May.
Only for a home run hire and there wasn't one.[
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Really? Another thread bashing Pope? Seriously?
Just give up, always give up.
Our fans have turned into pussies. Maybe that’s why no one wants to come here.
We’re not entitled to a damn thing. Kentucky basketball has been irrelevant for a decade. There’s no guarantee that’s changing no matter who gets hired. Same thing with Nebraska football.
Appreciate what Rupp did here. We’re not a powerhouse in CBB. We really haven’t been since Rupp won four National Championships in an 11 year stretch.
These are just facts.
Just give up, always give up.
Our fans have turned into pussies. Maybe that’s why no one wants to come here.
We’re not entitled to a damn thing. Kentucky basketball has been irrelevant for a decade. There’s no guarantee that’s changing no matter who gets hired. Same thing with Nebraska football.
Appreciate what Rupp did here. We’re not a powerhouse in CBB. We really haven’t been since Rupp won four National Championships in an 11 year stretch.
These are just facts.
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He hired the two worst coaches in UK history.
He could have waited three more days or whatever and went after Donovan, if he made that massive offer of Harley’s to Otzelburger or someone like that he would have taken it I’d say. He could have found someone had he been a real AD.
This is one of the absolute dumbest posts I’ve ever seen on this board and that says a lot. Lmao
Seeing the Pope cheerleading crew on this board melting down is absolutely hilarious. Everyone drop your standards for Mark Pope and his cheerleaders. LOL
Call it what you will but I want us to be in the thick of it every other year… and with this guy coaching, it’s not the answer
it’s amazing and I will forever never understand how a guy as bad at AD as Mitch Barnhart got passed Lee Todd and the BOT from the 90’s. I never will. He has been a trainwreck since he got here. Full blown narcissist obsessed with his self righteous image who thinks he owns the university of Kentucky and things need to reflect how HE SEES fit, not he what’s best for our programs. Obsessed with the vision of morality than winning, simply to use it as a shield to maintain his job and make a ton of money. It’s easier in this profession to survive if you set a standard that you’re going to be moral over wining products. This is where his ideas of “finger skating is just as important as baskeeball” came from. Lower the bar, survive. It’s why he didn’t leave here, he couldn’t have done this anywhere else and he knew it.
What do you expect from a guy dumb enough to vote for a dementia patient for President.
Reality is being patient and making the right hire, even if throwing away the next season (first year has a limit anyway), would have been a better choice than rushing into the wrong hire. Now you have to start all over and waste 3-4 years. Never rush a coaching hire.
He isn't wrong tho, Golden etc had never won anything
Also, google is your friend, I dont know why ppl stay stuck in denial about this...oats openly said he has no interest in a place like UK and he specifically said why
Also, google is your friend, I dont know why ppl stay stuck in denial about this...oats openly said he has no interest in a place like UK and he specifically said why
This. I believe Mitch’s hands were tied on some of the coaches but surely Pope and Smart weren’t the only 2 guys UK could have gotten.
Matt's take was lazy. Asking someone who you wanted him the hire is just gaslighting. We don't have access to search committees, agents, interviews to conduct a thorough search. It's the ADs job to find the right candidate. He made a lazy hire. Even Matt said it the day of the hire. His take is completely disingenuous.
He isn’t just ignorant but an arrogant jerk. He always interrupts and asks stupid gotcha questions. I get he can disagree, his show etc., but he absolutely will not even listen to a caller he with whom he disagrees. Just accuses the caller of refusing to listen and only wanting to talk when that is exactly what he does. I listened last night and the caller blaming Mitch was right.
Of course Jones fires back with, ”who would you have hired?”. Impossible to answer because the callers don’t have access to the info available that a search firm, AD network would have access to that helps the AD make the decision. That doesn’t preclude the average Joe from realizing Barnhart made an absolute terrible hire on the day hire was announced. And the moron Ryan, well I’m stunned that idiot has a job.
Using the swim scandal as some excuse is complete horse dung. That scandal rests 100% at the feet of Mitch and Eli. Again ignoring warnings received and hiring that POS. Mitch and Eli made a lazy, panic hire to try and get in front of more bad news coming out. The UK administration is a complete failure.
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But he had to get out in front of the fact he hired a sex offender story. Couldn’t wait since the story was going to break. Had to try to protect his reputation. So now here the fans sit with a very mediocre coach.
You going to sit down with Pope in an interview, look at his history, talk to the BYU folks and think ”that’s the guy to lead us?”.
It is the entire Administration!! Incompetent to help in the modern age. They are stuck in tbe 1990's & everyone is leaving us behind. Cal's comments about Administrations were for a reason. It takes more than a coach & Duke is proof of that. Duke is a well oiled machine & Scheyer has little to do with it being so.
These calls on the show are more and more ridiculous by the day. They almost seem like actors
Well, I can actually understand Golden, Oats, and Beard being off limits for a university president. One had been accused of sexual harassment, one has questionable culture because of some players being involved in some serious crimes, and one was charged with domestic abuse or accused of it. Peral and Miller, what they got in trouble for is now perfectly within the rules. I honestly think Miller would kill it at UK. He has proven he can recruit big time talent to a basketball school.
why do you keep putting down UK in order to prop up Pope??
i normally like your posts but you've been on an odd one lately.
That really is a great point...I firmly believe Scheyer will win a title here soon based on talent alone and he is an average coach. You could take many coaches and be in his position right now at Duke and have the same results.
Here's the truth: Pope's name would have never come up had he not played here. And being a player here has no correlation to being a great coach.
It was just a dumb effing hire.
It was just a dumb effing hire.
Yeah I agree a lot on the criticisms. Pope's recruiting is turning abysmal and he needs a GM or some help with navigating this NIL situation. As far as his coaching is concerned, if you notice any time that Alvin Brooks did the scout for the game we would have terrible first halves of basketball and then we would have to fix things during halftime. I think his trust in some of his assistants was way too elevated. The administration has really been lackluster in helping him fix his weaknesses. I think if Pope could accumulate talent he could win and win big. He just needs significant help with that.
Pretty good, I'm getting almost everything I voted for, and knowing it pisses you off is even better.
